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Needing help from both side of the family?

92 replies

Sarahmille80 · 25/06/2023 13:53

At the end of 2021 I had a life changing illness.

This has resulted in me having to have surgeries. Whilst I’m recovering from surgery I’m pretty much unable to leave sofa/bed for 8-12 weeks.

We have 2 DS 8 year old and 5 year old.

So as you can imagine we have needed a lot of help with the boys/school runs/pick ups etc. DH works full time.

The first time I had my surgery it was unexpected, everyone in my family rallied round to help look after me and the boys-most of this responsibility fell on the shoulders of my mother. She’s in her 70’s this was up in the morning to help me, get the boys ready, take them to school, back to pick them up in the afternoon, give them tea she also did little jobs like the washing etc. My auntie was cooking meals for us and bringing them round. My MIL offered to come and help only when I was in hospital-hubby was off work and declined and said he needed the help when he goes back to work.

As you can imagine it didn’t take long for this to all become too much for my poor mum. We reached out to my MIL to see if she can help with a school pick up once a week-she refused and said it’s my mum’s responsibility to do it and she only lives 5 minutes away and really couldn’t understand why she doesn’t want too, she then went on to say a lot of nasty things about my mum and myself. I actually resulted in a big family feud between MIL, DH and myself. DH on my side as MiL is very bitter and twisted and a difficult woman.

MIL reluctantly apologised and surgery 2 she offered to come and do some cleaning for us (only at weekends when DH was home) which just involved her sitting around drinking tea, not cleaning anything apart from a little dusting. Following DH around and generally being more of a hindrance. We said again it’s childcare we need help with.

Surgery 3 is now in the pipeline-we are now aware of what we need to make life easier and employed a childminder to pick up a few times a week and to have over the school holidays and a cleaner once a week. We have asked MIL to do 6 school pick ups. Since asking she’s already dropped out of 2 as she had appointment (morning I might add) and she’s now making noises that she might not be able to do the others due to further appointments. As this is a planned surgery for myself I feel like she could arrange her appointments accordingly.

This is now causing constant ongoing rows between myself and my DH I’m miffed this is a huge nightmare that we are living as a family that she thinks it’s ok to not to put herself out for a few weeks to help us.

She is not close to the her grandchildren. She does not interact with them at all she is very awkward and cold around them.

She has my nephew twice a week after school and twice a week in the holidays.

I’m really struggling to be civil to her and hate it when my DH meets up with her like everything is ok. Even though he fully agrees that it’s not ok what she is doing.

At the end of the day the children are our responsibility but I do not feel we’ve been unreasonable to ask for support at a time when family should come together.

OP posts:
WhatNoRaisins · 25/06/2023 17:39

OP you need to work with what you have not what you wish you had. Agree your partner needs to do more, what would he do if he was a single parent?

changeyerheadworzel · 25/06/2023 17:43

But also I don’t get why she’s offering and then cancelling pickups

She's not offering to do pickups, she is being asked to do them and then cancelling due to appointments. OP wants her to manage her appointments around her surgery. You couldn't make it up.

Sarahmille80 · 25/06/2023 21:38

She is being asked agreeing and then cancelling, she has been asked to do 1.5hrs 4 times over a 12 week period it’s not a lot. I’m not asking for permanent full time childcare. In fact this is the ONLY time I’ve EVER asked her for help since being a Mum my eldest is 8.

No she doesn’t have to, would I hope family would help out in time of need! Yes!

Yes some people have no family or unable family but we have local and fit and able grandparents.

Do I think hubby should do the housework himself-yes!! We have booked a cleaner we have NEVER asked either mother to do this.We have asked them for childcare only.

He is also going in late to do some breakfast club drop offs.

Yes it’s a third surgery so we have booked all the available childcare available, we have 6 after school pick ups that we can’t cover so asked her to help with it’s not a lot.

Clearly everyone thinks I’m being unreasonable not a manipulative MiL who has tried to cause problems for years.

I’ll have to look into other school Mums.

I’ll leave it there.

Good Night All

OP posts:
LadyLardy · 25/06/2023 21:45

This is a huge nightmare that we are living as a family that she thinks it’s ok to not to put herself out for a few weeks to help us.

But sadly, it is ok. It's her choice. She doesn't have to put herself out for you. It would be nice if she did, but she's in her 70s, not close to her gc (I think you said) and doesn't want to. It's disappointing, but she doesn't have to justify to you why she isn't prepared to pick up the slack in your family, due to you needing surgery.

People aren't obliged to put their lives on hold for weeks just because a family member needs something.

nevynevster · 25/06/2023 21:46

Sorry you feel that way OP. Most people tried to be sympathetic, I think we are all saying whilst it may be very reasonable for some people to provide help in this very deserving circumstance, it does seem like the MIL is not reliable. You are not going to be able to make her reliable so you need to make other arrangements and not rely on her. It's a shame but it is what it is.

Mysleepisbroken · 25/06/2023 23:47

I'm not sure why it should be upto women (whether your mum, his mum or school mums) to make up for your husband's laziness and ineptitude.

Its like we've stepped into the 1950's here, though even then I expect most of the men would step up.

Yes it would be nice if they all helped, but the person at the centre of this should be your husband, and clearly he's not. I just can't get my head around that.

Mysleepisbroken · 25/06/2023 23:53

Just to add, when we had a life threatening illness in our family, family and close friends really did a lot to keep going going and it was amazing. However, both my husband and I lived with one of our children in hospital for a couple of months. They weren't rallying round whilst he just plodded on as usual which is what your husband seems to want to do.

PussyGalore1 · 25/06/2023 23:58

OP you have no right to demand others put themselves out for you.
why isn’t your husband using annual leave to look after you and his children?

Sparklybutold · 26/06/2023 00:27

This sounds like a really difficult situation. However in your shoes, id have no external family, and my husbands family are pretty naff.

I have a chronic illness and my husband has had some serious medical issues too - we have been on our own. It is so fucking hard (both financially and pragmatically) and I wished things were different. But it isn't and I just have to get on with it.

Dazedandbemused0 · 26/06/2023 00:33

As hard as it is for you, MIL has made it clear that she doesn’t want to commit to helping and at this point I think you need to accept that rather than keep asking. Can you hire someone to do the childcare you need?

justrude · 26/06/2023 09:47

I'm so sorry.

I can relate. I recently had major surgery and we have 4DC (8-14). DH told MIL on a visit that I was having the surgery. Radio silence.
Then he reminded her, and she said 'oh, I forgot
. I will send her a card.' Which she did.

And that was that. She hasn't even picked up the phone.

Thankfully my mum has been and stayed with us for the last 3.5 weeks. We could have managed without her, but she wanted to come, do we gratefully accepted.

There are more incidents over the last 21 years but this has very clearly spelt out exactly how much I mean to them and I am absolutely done.
I shall remain polite but nothing more.

I hope the community around you can help with the missing childcare hours.

Gingernan · 28/10/2023 22:54

Surely your husband can take some leave? There often seems to be reluctance to ask the dads, their jobs aren't sacrosanct! They're his children, the rest of the family shouldn't be expected to do it all.

Nanny0gg · 28/10/2023 23:01

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/06/2023 14:37

This

I don't understand why you need so much help. Millions of single parents manage to work and sort school runs and childcare by themselves.

Have they all had surgery?

Nanny0gg · 28/10/2023 23:02

alltoomuchrightnow · 25/06/2023 15:11

I would never in a million years expect or ask ANY member of my family to come round and do anything for me,, least of all, cleaning. Never have, never will.
Even when I was home alone with a broken shoulder and therefore couldn't drive (and live middle of nowhere) I managed alone. No member of family visited . I just got on with it all one armed in a lot of pain. It wasn't fun, admittedly.
but no.. I'd never ask for cleaning

Why?

I'd offer but I can't imagine me or my family not reaching out when in need

Nanny0gg · 28/10/2023 23:04

peeinthepool · 25/06/2023 15:14

Sounds like a very difficult situation but no one has the right to expect unpaid childcare from grandparents.

Jesus!

Would it be ok if they offered to pay her?

Most normal families want to help their immediate relations. It's really not unusual. Not if they care about each other and especially in unusual circumstances

Nanny0gg · 28/10/2023 23:05

Dazedandbemused0 · 26/06/2023 00:33

As hard as it is for you, MIL has made it clear that she doesn’t want to commit to helping and at this point I think you need to accept that rather than keep asking. Can you hire someone to do the childcare you need?

They have where it's available.

This was for where it's not...

CaspianPlover · 28/10/2023 23:17

Perhaps MIL is having health issues of her own that she does not want to burden you with. Not all health issues are visible.

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