Male victimization / Female perpetration

[Freefall212]

The other thread is rightly not the right place for this conversation but the idea the 99% that men are perpetrators 99% of the time and women are victims 99% of the time is as much a rape myth as any other myth. It confirms a bias and ideology that woman believe is true but isn't supported by actual research. There are many issues in who reports what and how it gets into statistics but when you look at broader population studies, the numbers don't support these 'myths'. That doesn't mean there still isn't gendered violence but the actual statistics are not accurately portrayed in most fact sheet / website style information.

This was a bit of a landmark study from a few years ago in the USA
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2014.301946

Part 2 of it: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178916301446

This research has led to hundreds of additional articles.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1097184X16652656?journalCode=jmma
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ab.21482
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1079063213503688?journalCode=saxb

Report on IPV - https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs/NISVSReportonIPV_2022.pdf

Even this research on desire shows how gendered social norms override reality
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02525-y

I think there should be recognition and more dialogue about male victimization - spaces were they can speak about their experiences, get support and services, be believed, access counselling etc. More advertising and normalizing and available of programs and services for male victims.

I think there needs to be a lot of work on unraveling sexual myths - such as all men want sex all the time, a guy should feel lucky he had sex, regardless of whether or not it was consenting etc. There is a lot of toxicity in conversations about male sexuality by both women and men.

There needs to be space and acceptance that women can be perpetrators - both so they can get help before they perpetrate and be held accountable. Female perpetrators should be given jail time. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/no-jail-time-for-woman-31-who-admitted-to-sex-with-boy-13-and-having-his-baby/news-story/535d1fae9dbe048c7fc5da8643c12e03

A greater recognition of how often domestic violence is mutual or there are male victims. More dialogue about this and about what makes for healthy relationships and how to change communication and confict patterns etc

More recognition of violence within LBG communities

Teaching boys that they deserve respect and what receiving respect looks like in a relationship (in addition to being respectful and treating a partner with respect). Teaching boys about signs of abusive and unhealthy relationships (i.e. any name calling, trying to change you, any put downs, any feeling like you are walking on eggshells or worry about upsetting them, any pushing, shoving, throwing objects, any emotional manipulation, a lack of appreciation, validation etc.

Those poor men

@JayAlfredPrufrock , why do you find it necessary to mock the victims of rape, digestive abuse and sexual assault?

How have I mocked?

Maybe you can expand on your genuine concern / empathy for men and add to the discussion

I think that there is a high bar to be convicted of rape and rape stats are very low. Obviously there are men who are sexually assaulted (see below) but I don't know how many were assaulted by men.

• Stats for 2022 The Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) provides the best measure of victimisation and estimated that 2.3% of adults (3.3% women and 1.2% men) aged 16 years and over were victims of sexual assault (including attempts) in the year ending March 2022 survey; this equates to an estimated 1.1 million adults (798,000 women and 275,000 men).

@Freefall212

Nah I’m good thanks. There’s enough verbosity on here. Busy watching Glasto.

Referrals to victim services for victims of sexual assault.
2022 Women 21536 Men 3414 Other 1536

It seems proportionally far more women are referred to victim services however that may be due to the type of crime that generally leads to a referral.

0.3% of the sample reported an attempted rape or rape.