to think these party goers need to be charged or all other Covid fines need to be rescinded

[JenniferBooth]

With compensation added to it for the stress.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/first-ever-partygate-video-revealed-30259486

There are people who are STILL going through the courts and being fined for breaching Covid rules.

https://twitter.com/carolvorders/status/1670684353142091778?s=20

Agree students had massive fines and other sanctions and not just for parties. DS had two friends who got thrown out of halls because they met up with each other. Students were thrown off their courses, made homeless. Students were subjected to campus 'police' forcibly entering their rooms at all hours to check they were alone, surrounded by security fences. There was the student who died jumping out of a window to avoid being caught at a party in someone's room. And these were 18 year olds, away from home for first time and really isolated. I remember Priti Patel defending the harsh sanctions for students. There is loads more evidence out there, enough people have gone on the record to say they were franctically shredding when stuff started to leak. Plus we now know that despite every other business having to do a risk assessment, buy perspex screens and PPE etc, and follow workplace guidance No.10 didn't implement the guidance for a year. And as Sunak was working there all the time how come he didnt notice no-one was wearing masks, there were no one-way system and they weren't sitting 2 metres apart, taking turns in the kitchen and having meetings at their desk on zoom like the rest of us were. The rest of us were queuing in the rain to go in a shop.

@Itsaknotat I’m doing very little tbh because I’m housebound with long covid and my local godawful Tory MP responds to any communications with a template saying she will “let the government know of your concerns”…

It’s the fact that people are largely unbothered that distresses me. Or say “Ah well all the parties were doing it - Starmer was the same.”

It’s utterly baffling to me how people just accept whatever the Daily Mail says and will keep voting them in.

@Upsizer Im a lifetime Labour voter who will never vote for them again after their calling for longer harder harsher lockdowns.

Ive never voted Tory and never will. Its not one or the other for me.

@SunLover1985 yup it’ll be a cold day in hell before I vote Labour in so Conservative it is.

I find people who spout this kind of nonsense can't actually articulate why. Why would it be that you would never vote for them (anyone) no matter who they appoint or what their policies might be? That's just ridiculous.

One of my good friends mum died alone and only her and her husband could attend the funeral. These cunts actually make me sick. They should be fined or put in prison for lying, along with all the other tory cunts.

I do agree that they should all be fined - every last one of them. I don't agree with rescinding fines though. Much as I had some doubts about the way lockdowns were conducted and the extent to which they would make a difference, the fact is that they were the law and most people adhered to them for that reason. Whether we like it or not, the law is the law, and we change it by the will of the people, not by breaking it if we (as individuals) feel like it. Otherwise no law can be sustained or justified because there will always be someone who thinks they are above it.

@Upsizer I don't know anyone who's not bothered. Have you seen the media/twitter/fb/mumsnet? People are really angry but we are largely impotent. What are people meant to do? Pop out in their lunch break and riot? Face arrest for protestation? The police don't prosecute, investigations go nowhere, so what levers do you expect the average person to pull?

I'm so angry, tbh. My mum fell ill during COVID and was ignored. She ended up suicidal. But no-one would see her, paramedics wouldn't enter the house, a&e told us they would turn her away. My dad and I tag teamed keeping watch on her. Even the private healthcare they paid for couldn't help as their beds were being saved in case of NHS COVID overflow. (Bear in mind we are isle of wight, COVID was practically no existent)

GP wouldn't see her. No-one would. We nearly lost her, it was a hopeless hell of a situation.

Eventually we found a suicide prevention charity with contacts and she ended up being admitted to a psych ward. Again, bear in mind that it was anxiety over COVID that made her ill in the first place.

Utter lying, smug fuckers. One rule for them, one for the plebs.

I do think the big fines should be rescinded. I’m a stickler for rules but 10 000 pounds? They were wildly disproportionate, life-ruining in some cases. And now there is no justification for them when you see how No 10 and Boris ignored the rules.

I would like to understand why you take this position.

That was the Christmas when we worked out that my colleagues and I could have Christmas lunch together only by sitting in adjacent cars in McDonalds car park, having individually driven through the drive-through. Good to know we could have said stuff it and just danced the night away.

@Quveas Because it was unfair on people on lower incomes. You know the ones. The ones who couldnt afford the ski trips to Lombardy <head tilt> Whereas rich people could just pay the fine.

Rich people could just pay the fines and carry on

https://www.liverpool.ac.uk/law-and-social-justice/blog/partygate-lockdown-justice/

Clearly not such a terrifying Illness then

I'm so glad they got to have a works Christmas party, they earned it. And I'm so happy I didn't get to see my son, daughter in law and granddaughter that Christmas 🙄..... they took thr bloody piss. Imposing Christmas restrictions on us plebs, while they partied the night away

All this could have been concluded when the initial evidence emerged. Boris would have been gone sooner, there would have been nowhere to hide.

The reality is that a lot of people have partygate fatigue at this point, and while there are people who are still angry about it, the majority are sick of hearing about it.

That doesn’t mean that the tories weren’t wrong, they were, but what is the media’s agenda here?

They can shove any further restrictions should they be needed right up their arse.

And this is a reason why they were so fucking stupid blatantly ignoring the lockdown rules- you get people saying it wasnt a dangerous illness , and covid deniers when it absolutely was dangerous and life threatening for many people.
It wasnt that it wasnt dangerous- it was that they clearly didnt give a shit.

It wasnt that it wasnt dangerous- it was that they clearly didnt give a shit

Or the more sinister reason that they locked us ALL down to make sure that there would be NHS beds available for ALL of them if needed.

I think they should all be named, shamed, fined the maximum amount and all honours doled out in Boris's resignation list rescinded.

My Dad became very ill and died during the second lockdown. It wasn't even Covid related and even though we were all clear of it we couldn't be with him in hospital. He died alone, confused and probably very scared.

Meanwhile, the government which set the rules in the first place was regularly partying!! Even on the eve of Prince Philip's funeral.

Personally, I now hope that most of the fines issued during the lockdowns are rescinded or paid back to the person concerned. Except for these arsewipes, of course.

Fines for sitting on park benches were always ridiculous.

@MayThe4th i doubt that the people still being dragged through the courts have partygate fatigue

We keep hearing how its a waste of resources to pursue those in public office who broke lockdown rules And yet they are happy to use up these same resources on the Covid cases and fines that are STILL going through the courts.

That's not actually true.

It was the one in braces and the candidate for London Mayor (Shaun Bailey) who isn't in the video, who were given honours.