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Angry at ex and his wife?

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greypixie · 17/06/2023 20:14

So I have no idea if I'm in the wrong here.

I dated a guy for 5 years. I always knew he was married and I knew his wife. He told me that he'd confessed to her that he had feelings for me six months before we even got together, but when we started seeing each other she found out within a week and put a stop to it (this was about five years ago).

So... he started meeting me 'as friends' and I thought it had been okayed at home. We talked every day, hanging out. Sometimes she'd find out the extent of our contact and get upset, but he kept framing it as 'just friends' and she'd forgive him. We were obviously way more than just friends -- from my perspective it was a full-time relationship and I was honestly just waiting all the time for those two to have the difficult conversations he kept promising they were just about to have.

After a year or so he started telling me they'd broken up, were just living together but not sharing a bed. I tried ending it and moving away a couple of times but although he never asked me to stay, he kept hinting that they were going to have big conversations and sort out the future. I contacted her a couple of times (because I believed him), and she acknowledged our 'friendship' but wouldn't talk about the relationship. Like she completely blanked it out.

About six months ago I finally ended the relationship. We spoke to each other after a few months and he said he'd fixed his marriage, they had a wonderful sex life now, were the happiest they'd ever been etc. At the same time he rekindled our affair and I was a mess so I let it happen for a few more months. He was coming over all the time, spent the night twice while she was away, told me he loved me and wanted to marry me etc. I got really depressed and ended up in hospital; he stayed the night with me, slept with me, then went on holiday with her and his kid the next day.

A few weeks ago I kind of flipped and told her everything that had happened. They had a big fight and he cut off contact with me. But I guess he lied his way through it because she blanked out everything and stayed with him.

I was visiting friends in their town and passed them in the street. They looked so happy. Like she had utterly blanked out everything that had happened. As if she didn't even know that her husband had a five year affair until a few weeks ago.

The worst part is that she was the other woman once before too. He'd had a previous marriage when he met her and walked out on a newborn baby.

I know such a long affair was awful and I really regret it. At the same time I'm so angry with them both. I can't believe that they can just skip around and act like they have the happiest marriage in the world so soon after finding out about the affair.

BTW he already has a new girlfriend, she's more than half his age and is younger than his own daughter. I guess his wife just blanked that out too. I am so pissed off that she believes his lies and didn't hear a word I said, probably still believes that me and her husband were 'just friends' for five years. I have 100,000 texts, photos, videos, messages and thousands of hours of call logs proving the opposite.

I'm so angry at them both and at myself. Am I being unreasonable?

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Wearegoingtoneedabiggerboat · 17/06/2023 20:50

Instead of being angry with his wife, you should be more angry with yourself for wasting 5 years of your life on this Prince.
His wife, I would have sympathy for, she has a lifetime of heartache and whatever else he brings to her door to look forward to.

Screwballs · 17/06/2023 20:54

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TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 17/06/2023 20:54

You fucked about with a married man and want sympathy?

Screwballs · 17/06/2023 20:55

greypixie · 17/06/2023 20:26

I was angry at how he was treating her too and thought she deserved to know. I figured she'd have some self-respect and leave, but I don't think she even believes he cheated on her.

Bullshit! You figured you'd break them up and "win". Pathetic.

bluelagoon12 · 17/06/2023 20:55

I think you're just bitter that he chose his wife over you. That's what it boils down to.

Spare me the fake concern for his wife.

You were in it for yourself and your own interests only.

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 17/06/2023 20:56

Sounds like he's manipulated her the same way he manipulated you and now his new bit on the side. Please move on for the sake of your sanity

BlinkeredBay · 17/06/2023 20:56

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ThreeCoursesForMe · 17/06/2023 20:58

Also op the way your post reads is as though you want the wife to read it here. So many details for her to read including the fact you happened to be visiting friends and happened to see them in their town, that she's the ow herself or was, that her husband has a new girlfriend already. Whether the wife is on mumsnet or not you need to let go of the investment in them and their marriage and just move on for the greater good.

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/06/2023 20:58

Yes of course you’re being unreasonable. Why the actual fuck would you give the bastard another second of headspace?

Seriously mate, you are so much more than this.

Thinkbiglittleone · 17/06/2023 20:58

Sorry but you sound like the typical deluded other woman.
He was never going to leave his wife, he used you while you allowed him to, then he moved on.
His choice was always his wife, he will never leave her, just keep replacing his flings.

For you to question his wife's self respect is very hypercritical, what they do is between them, if she knows about his affairs and chooses to carry on regardless that's up to her. You shouldn't be angry at her.

Thinkbiglittleone · 17/06/2023 20:59

Another thing, what made you want to be with a man who had deserted one child and ready to run out on another family ?
Raise your standards

catsnhats11 · 17/06/2023 21:08

Sounds like you're so angry because she hasn't dumped him (so you can have him).

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 17/06/2023 21:11

You didnt date him for 5 years, you were his side piece. None of you come across as nice people. Just move on and stop being obsessed about him.

feellikeanalien · 17/06/2023 21:13

Well presumably the wife knew what he was like if she was the OW. Are you just bitter that he left his first wife for her but wouldn't leave her for you?

Livelovebehappy · 17/06/2023 21:13

greypixie · 17/06/2023 20:26

I was angry at how he was treating her too and thought she deserved to know. I figured she'd have some self-respect and leave, but I don't think she even believes he cheated on her.

Come on…. Of course you weren’t bothered about how he was treating her. You told her because you hoped she would throw him out and he would come running back into your arms. Your moral compass is set at zero, so please don’t try selling us the story that your actions were down to your concern for her well-being. Leave the poor woman alone……

TimesRwo · 17/06/2023 21:13

You were the mistress and he chose his wife over you. Their marriage has nothing to do with you.

Have some self respect and focus on your own behaviour and actions rather than hers.

Screwballs · 17/06/2023 21:14

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 17/06/2023 21:11

You didnt date him for 5 years, you were his side piece. None of you come across as nice people. Just move on and stop being obsessed about him.

Disagree, you only know he told the side piece that he cheated to be with his wife. She has nothing to do with this shit show other than the fact that she must be in hell living with this pice of shit. She is not a bad person, she is someone that is, at best, coping, and, at worst, on the floor with this treatment.

Screwballs · 17/06/2023 21:15

Screwballs · 17/06/2023 21:14

Disagree, you only know he told the side piece that he cheated to be with his wife. She has nothing to do with this shit show other than the fact that she must be in hell living with this pice of shit. She is not a bad person, she is someone that is, at best, coping, and, at worst, on the floor with this treatment.

The wife, that is.

TimesRwo · 17/06/2023 21:17

greypixie · 17/06/2023 20:26

I was angry at how he was treating her too and thought she deserved to know. I figured she'd have some self-respect and leave, but I don't think she even believes he cheated on her.

Nonsense. You hoped she would dump him so he could be with you. Even now you’re hoping she is miserable.

He has form for leaving his wife and child for someone else so if he wanted to be with you, he would. But he didn’t, he chose his wife, repeatedly. Move on.

Bouledeneige · 17/06/2023 21:18

OP you have helped this man hurt his wife and family. You are not concerned about his wife in any way and your concern that she can 'pretend' to be happy is disingenuous. You have no concept of the pain and suffering you have colluded in causing her and are in absolutely no position to judge anyone.

You have been played by a thoroughly nasty man and your own lack of self respect has enabled a heap of suffering. You would do well to take time to re-assess your choices and values and work to find a better way to live. Choosing to judge others when so many would judge you is self deception. Underneath I think you know that. Find your own path and leave this horrible situation behind. Have ambition for the life you want to lead and the person you want to become. And treat other women as you would like to be treated. Put yourself in her shoes just for 5 minutes and promise yourself you will never ever cause anyone that pain again.

greypixie · 17/06/2023 21:21

I am getting therapy, and dealing with my own role in it so I never get in this situation again. I just don't understand how they can both just blank it out like that. Well, at least I can face reality and stand the chance of having a better relationship one day, when she never will.

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TheSnowyOwl · 17/06/2023 21:21

greypixie · 17/06/2023 20:26

I was angry at how he was treating her too and thought she deserved to know. I figured she'd have some self-respect and leave, but I don't think she even believes he cheated on her.

No, you wanted her to end things so you could be with him. You realise that there is a strong likelihood that you weren’t the only one in those five years, don't you?

Without a doubt she knows exactly what he does and for her own reasons, she accepts it.

Scienceadvisory · 17/06/2023 21:21

greypixie · 17/06/2023 20:26

I was angry at how he was treating her too and thought she deserved to know. I figured she'd have some self-respect and leave, but I don't think she even believes he cheated on her.

Bullshit. You were angry he wouldn't leave her for you. You didn't care how he treated her otherwise you would not have been complicit in his behaviour for 5 years. And how dare you judge her level of self respect. How about you focus on your lack of it given you were willing to be this man's cheap bit on the side for so long.

Howyiz · 17/06/2023 21:22

greypixie · 17/06/2023 20:26

I was angry at how he was treating her too and thought she deserved to know. I figured she'd have some self-respect and leave, but I don't think she even believes he cheated on her.

Christ, the irony!

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 17/06/2023 21:25

Raise your bar. Oh and stay away from married men in the future. I can't feel sorry for you I'm afraid.

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