Pride Day

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DD8’s school have a Pride Day coming up. It’s being run by a local LGBTQ organisation who are coming in to hold workshops and assemblies with the kids.

All great on the face of it. I completely support the fact that people are attracted to others of the same sex and that children should be told same sex relationships are as normal and valid as heterosexual relationships.

DD8 has always been interested in things that are more stereotypically associated with boys (football, gaming, Pokémon etc), her closest friends are boys, she plays for a boy’s sports team. She’s had periods over the last few years where she has insisted she is a boy. These periods tend to coincide with an incident e.g. a boy at school telling her girls can’t play football and go away completely when she sees girls like her e.g. watching the England in the Women’s Euros.

She last year joined a girls football academy and all talk of being a boy has gone away. She’s made friendships with girls and seems happy in who she is.

Now on to Pride Day, so the company has sent out some slides in advance to allay any fears. It seems the KS2 programme will be delivered by a guy who identifies as non binary and there are slides on things such as “assigned sex” and lots of pictures of this guy in a dress.

I’m worried the kids will all be told they can just change their gender and it’s as simple as that (apparently everything will be explained at a very high level and in simple terms). I’m worried this will sow the seed in DD’s head that she can be a boy if she wishes, without telling her all the difficulties that would be involved.

WIBU to not let her go to school that day? And would you tell the school why? I think we should email and explain. DH thinks we should just put in a holiday request and cite we are going away for the weekend (we would actually go to his parents so it wouldn’t be a lie, but it would be pretty obvious why we’d chosen the date, and I’d rather explain to the school rather than them think we’re homophobic - which we are definitely not!). DH thinks whatever way we try to explain it to the school they’ll interpret it badly.

What is the organisation that are coming in on this day?

It's nothing to do with sexuality. What does non binary have to do with sexuality? Absolutely nothing.

This is a dangerous ideology being pushed onto children with the clear end game of normalising sex with children by lowering the age of consent and alienating children from their parents.

Anyone who is in support of this is complicit whether they realise it or not.

there are slides on things such as “assigned sex”

I didn't think organisations that go to schools were supposed to use unscientific language, terms such as 'assigned sex', or tell children they were born in the wrong body?

and lots of pictures of this guy in a dress.

WTF has gone wrong at the school that they don't see this as a red flag?

Of course it’s there to “plant the seed” - that’s their whole agenda! Sterilise a generation by pushing a woke agenda on CHILDREN - this has NO place in school!

@LillyoftheMountain

The “Assigned Sex” slide has a picture of a row on newborn babies on it and says something like “a doctor assigns your sex at birth”, making it out like it’s an opinion or something.

Why would anyone NOT 'be concerned' at something as dangerously untrue as this? It's belittling and invalidating the seriousness of these things and waving them away which has gone us to this situation, in the first place!

If you're not concerned, you're not paying attention.

Actually I think “sexual orientation” is an appropriate topic for primary school kids of any age - not as sex, but as family relationships. You can have families with two mums, two dads, stepfamilies, adoption, kids living with grandparents… Draw a picture of your family and the people who look after you. All age-appropriate but I think important.

Fuck no would I let me kids go to have lies like "assigned sex" told to them.

We need to ask WHO benefits from this cohort of children who are confused about sex, gender, their bodies etc. Who benefits from children who will now have no boundries. Will place themselves in dangerous situations , who can't speak up about things that make them uncomfortable cos they have been taught to prioritise the feelings of a potentially predetory male over their own safety privacy and comfort. Who have been taught that loving parents are the enemy. And that every sexuality can include males and their penises.

Its not the children who benefit here is it.

Exactly, it;s how the indoctrination starts.

Big Pharma and paedophiles.

i'd be keeping them home.

I have a huge amount of non-binary and Trans friends, and i fully support them in those decision as adults, and they're all wonderful, warm, lovely people.. who agree with me that 8yo is not the age to be discussing this.

The minefield of gender ideology is far too complex and nuanced for little minds of that age, they don't have the critical thinking skills to assess what they're learning and take anything constructive or informative away.

They do need at some level to learn that Trans people exist, but not that its an option open to them prior to being fully adult.

"Sex is assigned at birth" is, to me, as just as nonsensical as "God created the earth in 6 days"

I wouldn't want a child to be lied to in this way.

emotional response eh? Next you'll be calling us hysterical women.

It's not an emotional response. It's a well thought out decision from women who know what they are talking about and want to protect themselves and their family. Must be galling to some people with an agenda that is slowly getting sunlight.

I don’t think young kids should have these ideas put into their heads at an age they are too young to understand the implications.

Gay people exist. Trans people exist. Letting children know about this fact is not putting ideas in their head, it’s validating the existence of experience of the LGBT+ community.

You’ll struggle to write down your concerns without sounding prejudiced, because your concerns come from a place of prejudice. LGBT+ people exist, they are not recruited.

(Gay people exist. Trans people exist. Letting children know about this fact is not putting ideas in their head, it’s validating the existence of experience of the LGBT+ community*

Children do not exist to validate life choices of adults. Many kids will have gay parents and family members you dont need to tell them. And there no explaining trans without circular definitions and stereotypes. Until even the " experts " can come up with a coherent amd consistent definition of terms perhaps they best stay out of schools.

I repeat. Children are not validation props for confused adults.

So if I said I had no issue with gay, bisexual or trans people, but have a big issue with TRAs and it the whole agenda being pushed onto children, that would be OK? It should be.

Sorry, extraneous "it" in that post.

Then it needs to be changed to OBSERVING sex at birth, @Catza , and not 'assigned'. Assigned is deliberately written to insinuate the Dr chose the sex.

You clearly don't see how language is deliberately being used to misconstrue, twist and to indoctrinate. It is not 'innocent'. We are at this stage, because too many people like you waved it all away and didn't see how serious this is. Now it's too late.

Yes.

And this, and childhood's like the OP's, is how a certain powerful group are using and manipulating children especially girls who will grow up to be women otherwise, to think in gender stereotypes, that men have it easier so why not transition.

Keep her off and tell the school in no uncertain terms why. And let other parents know. This „assigned at birth“ nonsense is a dangerous lie. No way should 8 year old children be told this.

@Catza
The whole 'be kind' movement is the most disgusting contradiction, and incredibly detrimental to children.

I am parenting my daughters to have very clear personal boundaries, and value themselves.
If their school insisted upon educating with lies, which may invalidate their personal boundaries, I would be furious.

We need to parent girls to value themselves as more than a uterus and domestic help.

Too many women still end up in shelters due to male violence and oppression.
Why are people raising girls to be so 'kind' that they accept the odd beating, rape, financial abuse in a heterosexual relationship.
Women end up in shelters through trying to excuse these males, forgiving them, thinking that they must 'be kind'.

I divorced my husband, to demonstrate that they didn't need to tolerate male oppression and subjugation.

Now we have a vocal movement that is demanding that biological males should have access to shelters, and other safe spaces.
They can just be women because they say that they are.

And we must 'be kind' to these males, and give them access, regardless of their motives.
Questioning motives isn't kind.
Males demanding access to female spaces isn't kind either.
We aren't supposed to highlight that.

Men are finding new ways to force women to willingly abdicate legal and necessary protection.
We are being taught to accept the loss of women's rights. It is being paraded as sharing them with oppressed males, because they are women too!

Can anyone can explain WHY females need to be kind, without any critical thought permitted?
Can anyone demonstrate where the kindness is reciprocated?

This grooming of the whole population to lower their boundaries has been going on for many decades.
Nevertheless it is still not age appropriate for children to have the seedier aspects of life thrust upon them at an impressionable age when there is no safeguarding need to do this.
There used to be a philosophy of dealing with children's questions about issues which involved giving as little but true accurate information as possible to satisfy their curiosity.
We have now gone to the other extreme and are actively promoting sexual peversions to minors and young people...at school....in an environment when they should feel safe.
I am thinking here of drag queen storytime, furries and bondage gear etc on PRIDE parades, and hearing that at senior schools teens are being taught how to choke people safely during sex.
What on earth has gone wrong here? Educated head teachers who should know better have collectively 'lost their marbles'.

Couldn't have said it better.

This. With bells on.

Parents do things in the best interests of our child. We are meant to know better to act better.