To think that 5/6 year old little girls don’t need to wear shorts under dresses to “protect their modesty”

[Darthwazette]

Just what the subject like says really. I’d be interested to know other parents thoughts. I’m not a weirdo, this request has been made of my daughters from school and it makes me feel a bit icky.

My dd insists on wearing them because the boys pull up their skirts and don't get given out to.

I just put my daughters in boxer shorts, far more comfy anyways.

What? My bras don't have bows.

I don't believe anyone should ever have to wear shorts to protect modesty unless they personally want to

Both my DDs are quite happy to do cartwheels in their school dresses without shorts underneath. They're far too young to care if people can see their knickers. Which is how it should be. If the school told me they had to wear shorts under their dresses I'd be having a stern word with the school and refusing.

Because girls don’t need to show their underwear to anyone, doing cartwheels, sitting cross-legged would do just that, much the same as the boys don’t expose their underwear. Your DP questions the school over this policy every year but still willingly sends his child there?

Is this for netball practice? That’s the only time I ever wore shorts under a skirt.

Absolutely batshit.

My DD is wearing shorts under dresses some of the time because she wants to. But I never make it a norm and I don’t wear shorts myself. I absolutely wouldn’t wear them
if requested. Just no. My child does not require modesty and neither do I!

We’ll be wearing headscarves, long sleeves and ankle length skirts next. I don’t want to live in Gilead thanks.

We are all more aware that not everyone just dismisses little girls (and boys) nudity or flashing of knickers than we once were. I think for the girls its just fashion at this age. Mine is 8 and just wants them or shorts instead of a dress full stop.

My preference is that I'd prefer shorts over some weirdo looking at my DD. It shouldn't be, but that is how it is now we've opened the pandora's box which is the internet.

Something very odd about the occasional sight of pants being "inappropriate" but any of us who have had dancer or gymnast girls have put them in high cut leotards without a second thought....

Mine all wear gym knickers/ black short knickers under their school pinafores and summer dresses so they can do what they want without showing the world their knickers or more, because let’s face it knickers don’t always fit well and girls are always holding their dresses up or sitting cross legged, cartwheels etc. no harm in it at all.

Re: the question of knickers AND shorts being a bit hot - these are cotton knicker-shorts. DD has these. One garment, cool and covers her nicely.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08DNXV2Z2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Lots of similar around. Do look at the reviews from real customers though re sizing and leg length on amazon.

Personally i have no issue with knickers being seen - they're just a piece of fabric. But as pp have said, often times girls are going into school in knickers which just don't stay put through all the rolling/cartwheeling/climbing/cross legged sitting activities.

The school is trying to find a way to ask parents to send their girls in in bigger knickers which wont shift!

All my DDs have always worn cycling shorts under their skirts, it’s my decision to protect their “modesty” they run around, do cartwheels, hang upside down on monkey bars, sit cross legged and hitch their skirts up to scratch their arses.

Im also not blind or ignorant to the fact that not every child has the right kind of upbringing and other children’s behaviour could effect my child, boys pulling skirts up, young girls being sexually abused by older children in schools. We’ve already had a child with behaviour issues pulling up the girls skirts in reception, trying to kiss them and also pulling poo out of toilets to throw at girls who tell them to go away.

There are girls in my DDs school who have no modesty at all, would walk around naked which if their parents are ok with that at home fine, I don’t have a problem with my DDs being naked in the safety of their own but not outside. There are girls in yr6 developing but don’t wear bras, crop tops or vests. My daughter felt sorry for her friend when the you could see her developing breast through her shirt, my dd took her own vest off to give her friend, my dd had a jumper to put on. Her friend didn’t own vests or bras. This same friend tried clothes on in our house and I had to tell her not to walk around naked, she looked at me as if I was mad when I said just stay in DDs bedroom and close the curtains if they are getting changed.

I think from a safeguarding perspective it’s good the school are asking girls to wear shorts under their skirts.

My 6 year made this request for shorts since about six months back. Out of curiosity I questioned her about it to see if someone had told her she should, but she said that when she is is on the monkey bars in the school playground someone might see her underwear...so that's fair enough🤣, so now she always wears cycling shorts under her school dress

Knicker shorts are good for preserving modesty, they do not move. No need to wear shorts on top IME

I also see I've failed to make any sense!

Agreed.

Why on earth would it be? Do you not wear underwear if you wear shorts or trousers??

I hate summer dresses, but similar to up thread, my 4yo won't wear 'school shorts' because she says they are for boys! I'd prefer it if she could wear black cycle shorts and a school t-shirt, as that is what she is most comfy in and able to run around and play etc.

School uniforms definitely need an upgraded they're so uncomfortable!

Perhaps the school should require the boys and male teachers to wear modesty blinkers to stop them looking at girls’ knickers?

Have a think about why? The reasons are the same. Even if they are not playing netball.

Our school has suggested girls wear a little short-legged playsuit in the school colours (there's apparently one lots of the girls are wearing this summer) because they're more comfortable.

Personally I think everyone should be allowed to wear what they want, without a 'boy uniform' and 'girl uniform'. But those little grey shorts are very ugly, so can understand girls not wanting to wear them (and boys!).

Wouldn’t it be more comfortable to just wear shorts and a top?

Do people really tell their daughters that flashing everyone literally the gusset of your underwear (and often what it covers because girls pants are flimsy) is acceptable, to be encouraged in the name of self expression and that anyone who objects to seeing that is some kind of pervert?

Are you ok with taking that to the logical conclusion that no-one, of either sex or any age, should have to cover their underwear and or genitals in public?

Just had the shorts conversation with my 6 year old daughter this morning.

She is demanding a pair of black cycling shorts for school as they are the in thing for the girls in her class at the moment. None of them are wearing them under skirts or dresses but instead of skirts and dresses.

She made her point stating she wants to be able to play football without showing everyone her knickers. Which is fair enough really.