To wonder why all these teenagers are being killed in police car chases?

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Are they only being chased if they are driving dangerously? First there was Cardiff now the kid on the bike. I know kids do silly things with cars but aibu to think the police don't come off well with this?

Maybe if these kids stop when police want them to or they weren't riding around on illegal bikes and scooters it would never have happened, police are finally cracking down on these thugs that love annoying everyone.

Actually that's too flippant and inappropriate, so will ask for removal.

By trying to stop these individual putting everyone in danger with their reckless driving, the police is actually trying to protect MY child, and everybody else around.

The police has a duty to protect the public!

E-peddle bikes are legal
E-motorcycles are for 17 or older but the must have a license and insurance.
The media often call e-motorcycles e-bikes.
I have an e-peddle bike, I live in a hilly area and it means I can have a bit of help peddling up hills, it really can't go that fast, and certainly I'd have time to slow down enough to reduce impact with a stationary object!
I very much doubt he would have done himself in on an e-peddle bike.

Really ? So sorry n your world it's completely ok for them to ride with no awareness for other road users and pedestrians, causing accidents etc because that's exactly what happens in my area. Why on earth should the police leave them alone?

Exactly I own a assist ebike you have to pedal for it to work.

What may of teenagers have aren't pedal assist at all and have throttles.

Parents who buy there kids electric scooters depiste you can only legally use them on private land need to take responsibility.

I know right. The police should definitely let kids ride around dangerously, without helmets, causing a nuisance and maybe even knocking over a few innocent people/children/animals. I can't believe the police are trying to stop anti social behaviour. Disgusting.

I think it should be that for an e bike (legal limited one) you should as a bare minimum have a provisional driving licence (so age 16) and if able to go over 25kph you should need to have your motorcycle cbt and display learner plates as they are essentially electric motorcycles. Compulsory motorcycle grade helmets too would be an improvement for these vehicles. (Electric assist standard e bikes are quite different to the ones causing problems around here).

We have issues with burglars on illegal e-bikes or scooters here coming through the nature reserve (they park their van the other side)

If you are on a legal ebike you don't have to wear a helmet, so do you think kids riding illegal bikes and scooters are going to worry about that.

Nope, I doubt they care very much about anything to be honest.

Tbh I'm less concerned about the people riding them and more concerned about being able to walk safely on pavements and cross roads during the day with my two kids. It's only a matter of time until one of these teenagers (who are weirdly apparently all wonderfully behaved with a heart of gold yet often pretty well known to police) mows down some innocent pedestrian instead of just offing themselves.

Also from what I can tell from latest article and previous, neither seem to have been 'chases'. They were being followed by police, which is not chasing. It only becomes a chase when a) the vehicle being followed starts driving erratically and quickly and b) a chase is authorised by the control room/senior officer. Police officers don't just drive around and randomly decide to engage in a high-speed chase through town at 2pm in the afternoon.

What most likely happened is the police vehicle began following at an appropriate speed to ascertain if any laws were being broken, the teenager took off, lost control and crashed. That's not a police chase. That's someone getting spooked and taking off and crashing.

Oh and it was a off-road Sur-Ron e-bike, which has a top speed of nearly 50mph and is worth almost £5000. Hardly a standard e-bike to help you pedal up a hill on your way to school.

It's absolutely not legal for a 15 year old to ride a Sur-On in the road, where are you getting that from?

I have only just found out recently that any bike can be adapted to be an e bike now, and they can.n do speeds of 50 mph + . Yes they're illegal they're supposed to be limited to 20 I think . So I imagine the bikes in the crashes were able to do the higher speeds . Just adding a further difficulty in our troubled times .

It's not just teenagers riding them, grown men are riding electric motorbikes, petrol dirt bikes along with quad bikes, without helmets in the Wigan area. They are riding on pavements, the wrong way up roads, in nature reserves and playgrounds. I've even seen adults riding on quad bikes on a main road then nipping occasionally on to the pavement with a small, helmetless child in front. They get reported but nothing appears to happen.

I'm sick of it, I'm having to constantly listen for the things when I'm out walking my dog for our safety. Is there any part of the country that is free of them?

I can't say I have any sympathy for them. Their families yes. But they shouldn't have these bikes in the first place and if they weren't behaving recklessly, the police wouldn't be following them.

Also online batteries are a fire hazard
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/may/02/e-bike-e-scooter-battery-fires-uk-data

But let’s not let anything get in the way of condemnation of the police by the BBC and other media

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I was driving through Ely earlier, where the two boys died on ebikes.

Ahead of me was a boy, of about the same age, on a very overpowered ebike, face covered from the eyes down to obscure his identity, no helmet and a jacket that had emblazoned on the back "RIP Kyrees and Harvey Forever Young".

Clearly no lessons have been learned locally.