To wonder why all these teenagers are being killed in police car chases?

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Are they only being chased if they are driving dangerously? First there was Cardiff now the kid on the bike. I know kids do silly things with cars but aibu to think the police don't come off well with this?

Because these teens think they are above the law, can do what they like, terrorise, drug deal and cause carnage and also think they are invincible, until they aren’t.

Are they actually being chased? A proper chase requires authorisation, and a lot of places won't authorise an actual chase unless there is a very compelling reason. Turning your police car to follow a suspicious vehicle isn't a chase.

The 2 boys in Cardiff were quarter a mile away from the Police car when they crashed, same as the lad that died this week. The Police are not at fault. If either of theses lads had ran into the side of your pushchair or knocked your Granny over you would be insisting they were charged. These lads would have been a bloody nuisance on these bikes. I am sorry they are dead but don't blame the Coppers for the behaviour of these lads.

Imagine that there was something those 'innocent' never been convicted of anything people could do when the police decide out of their own random volition to prevent the wild chase.. like stop?

As I'm sure others have pointed out, there are different classes of e-bike and it's incredibly easy to derestrict legal bikes. Once derestricted they require a driving license, insurance, helmets etc.

I’d never blame the ‘coppers’ (what a lovely euphemism) for these anti social criminal behaviours 🙃 I blame the criminals who orchestrate the drug distribution system - these ch are mere collateral damage - the ‘coppers’ ‘plod’ should man up and tackle these people - but I do think that these crimes are harder more dangerous targets and police are not intellectually equipped to deal with them 👍🏿☘️

This.

Actions have consequences.

Would you like one of your relatives to be killed by a teen on an illegal bike??

These kids riding round on e scooters are a bloody menace.

I was only talking to an elderly friend yesterday who was saying she's scared to go down the town shopping now, because they weave in and out of the pedestrians on them and it puts her off balance.

It's easy to criticise the police but If they are on bikes/scooters and aren't doing anything wrong, they should stop for the police, then accidents wouldn't happen.

There is a lot of ignorance here. E bikes are completly legal in the UK and the minimum age to ride one is 14. These children were not breaking the law. The police should leave them alone.

The Police are protecting the 99% of the law abiding citizens in this country.

Why evade the police then? If not 'breaking the law' usual answer to that is "oooo they've learned not to trust the police" why, if they've lived a blameless, never been in trouble innocent life?

How do you know they were doing nothing wrong? And as has been explained there are lots of variations on these bikes and as such the legality.

I support the police.

You would think differently if it were your child who was killed, whatever the reason.

The Police have a duty of care not to endanger life in any car chase.

and yes, i been been robbed, had my car stolen and attacked whilst out on my bicycle, the police were utterly useless.

You sound like Outraged from Tunbridge Wells.

@eveoha police are not intellectually equipped to deal with them

**I think that Chief Constables are terrified of officers engaging with likely criminals. It's why so much of the policing that is carried out takes place as co-ordinated raids that can be coached and prepared for so that arrests are made correctly and language and actions can be choreographed and coached.
The language used in reporting is prejudicial, if I am driving behind someone else on the road, how do I demonstrate that I am merely 'following' rather than 'pursuing' or 'chasing'?

Not all E bikes are completely legal in all circumstances for all people. E bikes over a certain speed and power come under the same rules as motorcycles and require a license, insurance and helmets. It is illegal to carry a pillion passenger until you have a full motorcycle license.

A legal e bike would struggle to get to 15mph with a rider and passenger, which is unlikely to have killed them both.

I am sorry they are dead but don't blame the Coppers for the behaviour of these lads.

Yes agree.

Ironically, you're the one being ignorant.

Not all E-bikes road legal and many are modified so they got much faster than the maximum legal speed.

And this is the point that the OP and some others here are missing spectacularly:

We are given selective information by the media (including the BBC) and react to stories in the way they want us to react to them.

In this case ‘e-bike’ is misleading, as is ‘chased by police’. Even the fact that it is being reported so heavily is all about timing - they probably wouldn’t have made a big story of the second incident if it weren’t for the incident in Cardiff. It’s cumulative reporting to make something sound like it’s happening all the time, when if they chose not to report it we’d be none the wiser.

Our thoughts and opinions are absolutely led by the media.

Why do you think the police were 'utterly useless'? Because of opinions like yours that they shouldn't pursue criminals?...

Yep - a lot of ignorance here 🤣

Sadly young men and teenage men (in particular) doing stupid things and taking daft risks is nothing new. It always was, and unfortunately always will be, the way.

Will nobody think of the INNOCENT CHILDREN?!!! 😆

It is up to the IOPC (or whatever they’re called these days) to decide who was at fault OP.

Exactly