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Respect the ocean? Shark attack

115 replies

bookofnotes · 09/06/2023 21:34

So I just saw the video and article about the man who was attached and killed by a shark in Egypt.

Comments were saying “you need to respect the ocean” and “he invaded the sharks home” and I just think fuck off.

Yes the ocean needs to be respected in regards to pollution, transport, fishing, disturbing habitats. But people (and any living being) are entitled to swim in the ocean.

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APurpleSquirrel · 09/06/2023 23:44

Well, I for one, look forward to your TED Talk.

blacksax · 10/06/2023 00:59

Prey species enters the territory of an apex predator species and gets killed. No shit, Sherlock. Humans are not at the top of the food chain.

You are entitled to go right ahead and swim in shark-infested waters to your heart's content if you want to - there's nothing stopping you. Confused

Sagealicious · 10/06/2023 04:47

Growing up in Australia we are taught from a very young age to respect the environment around us this means:

Paying attention to signs - if a sign says no swimming due to salties, jellyfish, etc etc then you don't jump in at the first opportunity you get. I mean you could fuck around and find out...

You don't pick up random snakes or certain spiders.

When swimming in the ocean only swim in the designated areas (between the flags) they're there for a reason.

Respecting the environment whether it's on land or sea is just as important for us as it is the flora and fauna.

I mean if someone wants to jump into shark infested waters or have an afternoon swim with a saltie or pick up a brown snake etc etc because they feel so entitled to enter that animals home then go ahead but don't complain when it goes wrong for you.

Lastly. Being in the ocean is fine but know and understand that there is a risk involved. Also pay attention to what the locals are doing. If no one is swimming there then the number one rule is that you shouldn't either.

feralunderclass · 10/06/2023 05:05

The OP very much has the same tone of the thread where a mother was convinced a dolphin tried to rape her daughter (in the sea she was entitled to swim in) and as a result wanted to warn everyone about them. THEY ARE NOT WHAT YOU THINK! IT'S ALL AN ACT.

Croissantsandpistachio · 10/06/2023 05:54

'Sharks don't own the entire ocean' is one of the most hilarious things I have read on here.

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/06/2023 05:59

Croissantsandpistachio · 10/06/2023 05:54

'Sharks don't own the entire ocean' is one of the most hilarious things I have read on here.

I'm thinking from the Greenland shark to the great white they have the latitudes covered. Portuguese dogfish goes to 3700 metres deep. Deepest part of the ocean is 11000 metres so over a third of the very long way down.

I'd say they own it more than most species.

I like shark facts Grin

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/06/2023 06:07

Comments were saying “you need to respect the ocean” and “he invaded the sharks home” and I just think fuck off.

Both of which are true. The ocean is home for the shark and many other animals, not home to humans. If you want to swim in it, accept the risk to yourself.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/06/2023 06:09

Sharks don’t own the entire ocean.

😂😂😂

GoodChat · 10/06/2023 06:23

Some people really are dim enough to deserve death by nature, aren't they...

Gettingbysomehow · 10/06/2023 06:29

Nobody is entitled to do anything. You have to assess the risk and decide whether you want to do it. I used to live near some cliffs and people were forever falling off. One guy fell off while flying his kite and running backwards near the cliff edge. There was a big outcry and people saying we have to fence the cliff off. The cliff doesn't need fencing off. People need to stop doing stupid things.

DarkSignOfTheMoon · 10/06/2023 06:30

Another one pointing out that 'respect' in this context means 'be aware it is a dangerous place'.

Also 'sharks don't own the whole ocean'. I mean, if any creature DID then the tiger shark has got to be a good contender, right? Grin

standardduck · 10/06/2023 06:33

I needed a laugh this morning. This just be the dumbest thread I read.

On a serious note, what they did to that shark was barbaric.

WandaWonder · 10/06/2023 06:38

Maybe we can invite the sharks around for tea so we can debate we humans are 'entitled' to swim?

Maybe American have go and visit the bears and discuss they should be entitled to walk in the hills and mountains without getting bitten?

And people in Africa not getting bitten by mosquitoes?

'Entitled'???

WhatTheHeckyPeck · 10/06/2023 07:09

How's the hangover this morning OP?

rinseandrepeat1 · 10/06/2023 07:09

OP I don't think by people saying “you need to respect the ocean” and “he invaded the sharks home” they mean humans CAN'T swim there. I think they are just pointing out that you can't blame the shark for what it did - it was in its home environment doing what nature does and Mother Nature is brutal.

Daffodilsandtuplips · 10/06/2023 07:18

excelledyourself · 09/06/2023 22:31

But people (and any living being) are entitled to swim in the ocean.

Damn right, OP. I don't know how many times I have asked, politely, that my local seaside would crank the heating up so I don't have to consider that I could possibly freeze to death in there.

Alas, i am yet to be accommodated.

Some people just don’t understand nature and the power of the sea and the creatures that live in it. I live near the sea, can see it from my bedroom window, every year we get the Spring tides, they are powerful, scary, us locals stay away from the beach until they pass. One particular year (maybe six years ago) the tides caused a lot of damage, buildings destroyed, warnings were given, red flags were up. A large section of the beach was washed away, exposing the petrified remains of forest and land that once connected us to Europe, hidden under the sand for centuries
A woman wrote to the local newspaper and the council’s Facebook page complaining about this “It’s disgusting what happened to the beach, I can’t believe the council let that happen, I pay my Council tax what are the council doing about it, I expect the sand to be replaced by the next time I go to the beach.”
She totally ignored all comments that she could still take her kids to vast sections of the beach either side of the washed away section that were unaffected. No , she wanted to use THAT section.

The petrified forest remains still exposed and I expect they always will be. Unless the Council cough up millions to import sand from a desert somewhere. (That’ll never happen)

IncomingTraffic · 10/06/2023 07:20

feralunderclass · 10/06/2023 05:05

The OP very much has the same tone of the thread where a mother was convinced a dolphin tried to rape her daughter (in the sea she was entitled to swim in) and as a result wanted to warn everyone about them. THEY ARE NOT WHAT YOU THINK! IT'S ALL AN ACT.

Given that most of us seem to think the OP is playing the idiot on the internet and talking utter shite… I suspect they might be exactly what we think they are.

ISeeMisledPeople · 10/06/2023 07:25

I just read a fesshole this morning about a man that got out of his car in the lion's den in a safari park because he needed to pee.

He survived, but clearly had a lion got to him, it wouldn't have been his fault. He was entitled to be there. In fact he even paid good money to be there!

Lidale · 10/06/2023 07:37

Oh for god sakes people. Someone out there lost a son, a brother, a boyfriend two days ago. And you are all here debating whether we should respect the ocean 🙄

Maybe you should all be RESPECTING that man who died and his family right now by not doing this.

Jifmicroliquid · 10/06/2023 07:39

Humans are entitled to swim in the ocean but a shark is entitled to have one for lunch if he’s hungry.

Im so fed up of human entitlement.

LakeTiticaca · 10/06/2023 07:43

People are entitled to walk through the jungle as long as they understand they may be killed and eaten by a lion or 2......

megletthesecond · 10/06/2023 07:47

This is as nuts as the elephant thread...

IncomingTraffic · 10/06/2023 07:52

Lidale · 10/06/2023 07:37

Oh for god sakes people. Someone out there lost a son, a brother, a boyfriend two days ago. And you are all here debating whether we should respect the ocean 🙄

Maybe you should all be RESPECTING that man who died and his family right now by not doing this.

Do you feel righteous now?

Surely it’s actually more important to discuss why the sea is just dangerous and people should recognise that, and to challenge nonsense about sharks needing to respect human’s entitlement to swim because they don’t ‘own the whole ocean’, when people are dying because we too often are overconfident in how we (as humans) treat our coastal waters.

Doesn’t mean people don’t think it’s terrible someone died.

LT2 · 10/06/2023 07:58

LakeTiticaca · 10/06/2023 07:43

People are entitled to walk through the jungle as long as they understand they may be killed and eaten by a lion or 2......

Are you sure about that? A lion in the jungle..🤔

elm26 · 10/06/2023 08:03

This is hands down the most stupid thing I've ever read on MN.

Sharks live in the sea, for millions of years, there is a reason why we can't breathe underwater, we shouldn't be in there. Yes it's lovely to swim in the sea, yes it's beautiful but the dangers are well known.

I've always loved sharks, since I was tiny, I respect their habitat the same as they respect mine by not getting out of the water and biting people on the beach.

I also swim in the sea, depending on where I am, I know there is some kind of risk although rare to be attacked by a shark.

I spent my childhood holidays in Florida as family live there, it was well known that bull sharks are rife there and for that reason we stuck to the pool.

Beating a shark to death for doing what its instincts tell it to do out of hunger is appalling.