Is business class worth it with two toddlers ?

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Would it make the journey better ? My DH absolutely refuses do go long haul with our 1 and 3 year olds.

Would flying business actually make it any easier ? The one year old would still be on one of our laps. The three year old would their own seat etc.

Has anyone done this ? It's so much more expensive and I don't want to do it, unless it will make a considerable difference.

Yeah, I did not expect to have my expensive flight ruined like that, trust me. I was under a false illusion that people in BC are well behaved and classy - lol, nope.

I have however experienced kids in BC and had exactly 0 issues with them. My then 3yo DD flew BC and disturbed noone, no crying, yelling, kicking and whatever else kids are supposed to be doing on flights. Just eating her food, watching her tablet and sleeping.

about what is the right thing to do surely? Being permitted or enabled to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right the to do

My family are my only consideration when making travel arrangements and it will always be that way.

Im sorry but it’s just another way to get from A to B and all your ticket money buys you is a better seat and a bit more room.

'My family are my only consideration when making travel arrangements and it will always be that '

Apparently that makes you selfish. You should be thinking about everyone else FIRST and put yourself and your own comfort second to not be considered selfish.. according to the numpties on here anyway. No one I know in real life would not book a BC flight, in case they annoyed a honeymooner...

Honey monomers annoy me

I can't - I have autism and travel FC and BC because of this condition. These cabins are more spacious, so I am not squashed up against other people, which can make me physically ill. They tend to be quieter, which is important because I find noisy places distressing. And, no, I can't wait headphones because I can't bear anything on my head or in my ears.

And it's not, as @nesbi, put it: A tendency to swan through life believing that spending more money means they should never have to confront anything that
makes them feel less than entirely happy - in a word “entitlement”.

I'll tell you what - I'll give up my "entitlement" for not being autistic.

These are the same numpties who would never do any of their friends a favour / can't handle when a friend is upset and leans on them a little bit and generally says ' if it's not good for me, then I'm not doing it '. It all makes no sense when you read the stuff on MN. It's all one massive contradiction.

On one hand I need to worry about upsetting people on a plane, but on the other hand, I am not responsible for other people's feeling.

Why on earth are their needs more important than the OP? Utterly bizarre.

It's absolutely fine OP, most seasoned travellers wouldn't bat an eye at this. Its very common.

@BridportSpectacular

"Have you ever been on a plane?"

No, I haven't been able to as I didn't want to inconvenience the other passengers with my chronic farting. But I may make an exception and book the seats in front of OP and their annoying children.

It doesn’t bother me that some may think I’m selfish. Apart from being travel companions for a period of time and more than likely enjoying a chat with them they have no influence over me whatsoever.

Yay @lafado /@Giggyto came back! Not half as outrageous as before though. Disappointed.
Book the Business Class OP, it will make the world of difference long haul. I love the fact that posters are actually saying rich people deserve to be protected from the children 😂 I mean I'm not surprised but they aren't even trying to be subtle. It's amazing. I've also learned that flying is traumatising AND cruel for children. Mine missed that memo. Love flying, never been a bit of bother, I think I got two duds.

You could have acknowledged that your post was ignorant and offensive but you decided to dig yourself deeper with more ignorance and offensiveness.

If people want a child free flying experience they need to find an airline that sells a child free cabin. As things stand airlines sell tickets in business class AND first class (gasp) to parents and children.

One thing I will add is that when babies/toddlers fly business/first they tend to be a lot calmer as they have more space and are less squashed next to randoms. There are less screens at close proximity for them to be overstimulated by which means they get to sleep quicker. Also they literally can lie flat and sleep properly without knocked by someone’s elbow etc.

The only way to control who travels in the cabin with you is to use a private jet. And then the damage to the environment far outweighs any moral turpitude of kids in business class.

Obviously there are appropriate ways to behave on a plane. But if you can't handle the possibility of kids being near you, the responsibility is on you to be the one to stay away because that's your problem.

Discussions like this often get heated but we'd like to remind you that Mumsnet is here to make parents' lives easier. While we encourage healthy and robust discussion, we hope that everyone can respect each other in their choices and express their views without resorting to personal attacks. The OP is merely asking whether it would make their journey easier.
Parenting is hard enough without facing judgement and criticism for personal choices.

@CCmumsnet have you read OP posts? The ones where they state they don't care about anyone but themselves, or the posts saying they should sit in BC and play loud annoying videos and eat smelly food? There is a reason all of us are judged and it's behaviour like this.

Have you read all my other posts about this comment of mine ? It doesn't seem like you have, at all.

Thank you, @CCmumsnet! I appreciate your commenting on the thread.

@Florissant my son is autistic and now adult requires constant care. Despite this we have managed to travel extensively and are very aware of “reasonable adjustments”. I’m pretty sure I am not “ignorant” in this scenario, and also confused as to why a differing opinion on what constitutes a “reasonable” adjustment requires a deletion. In MY opinion as someone with extensive experience of long haul flights and autism I think it is utterly unreasonable to expect people to keep their children out of first or business class because it might bother you or anyone else to be in their presence.

If that wasn’t what you meant by your post then perhaps you could explain.

I like your style.

Most people dont regularly fly business or 1st though? So it is the same

There are always children in business. There are sometimes children in 1st but post pandemic lots of airlines have reduced their 1st capacity with less and smaller cabins and so less 1st leisure travellers I would say as the club/1st price difference has been quite large for the past 12 months. Business prices are dropping again but 1st not so much.