Is business class worth it with two toddlers ?

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Would it make the journey better ? My DH absolutely refuses do go long haul with our 1 and 3 year olds.

Would flying business actually make it any easier ? The one year old would still be on one of our laps. The three year old would their own seat etc.

Has anyone done this ? It's so much more expensive and I don't want to do it, unless it will make a considerable difference.

Please!

All of these people could be in economy also.

The most obnoxious people I’ve dealt with in 25 years of regular long haul flights (I laughed at the person who talked about 7 hour flights…….) have been older men who drink a bit too much and become loud and belligerent or worse, flirtatious.

Wow - oversensitive much? Are you one of those dim people who write things like 'FUCK THE TORIES' on your Twitter? Hmmm....

I'm just a millennial, non-conservative voting, non-right wing, working class person who's never travelled anywhere on business class. A person who has travelled in extremely cramped conditions many, many times, some of which was travelling next to kids who screeched and whined the entire journey. A bit difficult to concentrate on anything, read a book or similar with all of that.

Your post reminds me of virtue signalling middle class people who get offended on the behalf of working class people when someone says they don't want to live on a Council estate....when they've NEVER actually has to live on one themselves.

I agree. Would have gladly paid extra for this

I’m bemused by this idea that because a BC / first class passenger has paid more money, they should be entitled to a child free flight. After all, the parents will also have paid through the nose for their seats, won’t they?

But then, I’ve never been bothered by the noise made by other people’s children on planes. For the simple reason that I don’t have to do anything about them, I can just put on my headphones and watch a movie or just focus on the book I’m reading. I do feel empathy for the parents, though.

I wouldn’t have wanted to travel by plane with my DDs when they were babies/toddlers, though. My DH and I travelled to Canada when they were aged 9 and 6, and will be travelling to Samos this summer, our DDs aged 14 and 11.

It always looked too much like hard work travelling with little children. It didn’t annoy me, it just put me off doing it myself. (I previously loved flying on my own or with my DH, though.)

Really odd how many people seem to think there should never be children in business class. It’s obviously not the case, children would be banned if it was but they aren’t.

Are you also the type to think you can’t take children to a 5* hotel?

I’ve only travelled BC once in my life btw. It was a lovely experience, but sadly only a short flight within Canada. (We were selected for some reason, no idea why.) If we could afford it we would do it again, it made a big difference to my DH, who is 6’5.

So if you can afford it, I suggest going for it, OP.

😂😂😂

The fact that you took the time to type this. As if OP gives a fuck what you think

Yep. Stayed in an amazing resort on an island off Thailand, had our own pool, sea views, the works. Cost a fortune. Someone in the "house/bungalow" near ours (all very far apart, trees in between and private), we could hear their screaming baby all day. Killed the ambience completely. Incredibly selfish, selfish people, luckily it was our last day. I guess this is why now so many places are now having age restrictions, although of course you'll always get that entitled person saying it's unfair and discrimination 🙄 Often the family places are together which I suppose lowers the risk, but if it's a one bedroom and someone brings their baby well it can and often does ruin it for everyone. I'm looking to book something soon with my toddler and am dreading being with other families with bratty, noisy kids!! 🙃

BC is amazing and worth it I think. As others have said, check the configuration. Singapore air has pods, but the middle ones can open up to one giant bed I think, which might be good.

I dunno, paying 5k+ for a 3 year old seems a lot!!
I would probably fly biz with the 1 year old ( only need to pay for 1 seat) and leave dh and the 3 year old in economy 😆
the 1 year old would be sitting next to you ( or in front of you), rather than on your lap, if you pick an airline with wide biz seats/ flat bed seats.. it’s amazing and makes a huge difference to trying to do the same thing in Evonomy or prem Economy…

Please do, so we can travel on them. I would be mega pissed off if I paid for business or first class to find toddlers there.

There are some families in business who are not travelling for holidays. Many companies pay for the whole family to travel business when they are sent overseas to work and live.
Business may be a special occasion for some but for others it's just the way they usually travel.

I can tell you who was a nightmare on my last flight in business - the guy in his 40’s sitting next to me who got completely wasted on free drinks then spilled his red wine all over me and didn’t even apologize. Then proceeded to go to sleep, snoring all night.
I would rather take a row full of kids I think.

OP business class definitely helps if you’re flying over night, for kids (and you) to lie flat and sleep through the night it’s priceless. Daytime flight I wouldn’t bother, just bring snacks, toys, a tablet, and they will probably doze off in their seat for a few hours.

You can always book economy then upgrade closer to date, that tends to be cheaper than booking business right away. Or even better at the airport. But that probably won’t work (BC will be full) if you’re flying in peak season.

For those saying kids shouldn’t fly long haul, my DD has been flying between west coast US and Europe since she’s been 6 months, with zero issues (and minimal crying).

Because you don’t have to be a businessman/woman to be on board.

I would have done it with my firstborn, as she was the best baby and toddler. So laidback and well-behaved.
Wouldn't have inflicted my younger two

Well....considering OP has posted a question in a forum, I think it's quite obvious that she is asking what we all think. Otherwise she would just book it. Or is this not how forums like AIBU work?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if you disagree with it. Funny that.

OP you have posted on AIBU so you are going get opinions. Your responses on here with your flippant 'hahaha's' aren't helping you, just makes you sound selfish. But I presume that you couldn't care less.

Maybe you should have posted this in the Holidays forum as it seems that you are looking more for advice rather than if you are being reasonable (because it's obvious from your responses that you think that you are being reasonable).

Absolutely do it! We always have with our children bar a couple of times when we flew to Spain and we did premium economy for Florida a few months ago due to club being full and we’ve never had a complaint. As others have said, some adults are atrocious in business class - only time I remember being annoyed by a child in business class was coming back from Boston and the captains 4 kids were there with no supervision (mum was in economy!) and the cabin crew wouldn’t do anything to stop them running around. Quite often kids will just go straight to sleep anyway so you never hear a peep out of them.

You don’t care if your children disturb other people? Wow what a snotty attitude you have.

Why would you want to piss off the other business class passengers? You’ve never met them, why hate them?

Wound you say the same about economy class passengers?

I’m struggling to see the rationale on you post. Is there anything more than sheer hate and unpleasantness that motivates you?

I suspect there are as many people in business class who’ve paid for their seats are there are those who are traveling at their works expense.

I think the problem arises when people perhaps save up for a special trip and wrongly believe business class is something very special/exclusive when for the most part it’s just the normal way to travel for the majority of people who do it.

Hahaha I honestly couldn't care less about other people.

Charming. And some parents wonder why people sigh when they have parents with small children sitting next to them on aeroplanes.

Genuine question, because I’ve read this entire thread, has anyone actually had a bad experience of toddlers in business class? There seems to be a lot of assumption that toddlers will behave badly, but those who appear to travel BC regularly don’t have anything bad to say. When we flew BC we had nothing but support from the crew and yes, the other passengers too. I’m not sure many of those replying actually have experience of this.

No. Never. And I’ve flown with my children when they were young and now my many grandchildren. In fact I can’t even say that in 40 odd years of doing regular long haul travel that I’ve ever had a bad experience with any child regardless of where we’ve sat in the aircraft. Not that the prospect of an upset child would ever put me off flying. There’s no way out of an aircraft once your in the air and if the thought of listening to a child crying or being unsettled alarms you then stay at home. It really is as simple as that.