To think concert cancelling has become far too prevalent

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and I think its a terrible precedent to have been set

I am probably just an unfeeling wench but I think it is dreadful how easy this has become to do, Lewis Capaldi taking three weeks off to be "Lewis from Glasgow" again bascially saying "I know you've forked out on hotels and travel, and thanks, but sorry"

For me it just shows a huge disrespect to fans. When you're a rich and famous star (all from the hard earned money from your fans) and all of the luxury that that life affords - you don't get to turn it on and off, and I'm sorry, but you don't get to put yourself first 100% of the time. Thats the trade off.

I would never buy tickets to concerts again after the spate of this happening. Adele, Sam Smith, Lewis etc.

AIBU ?

Gosh. How horrible. They had quite a chequered history, didn't they?

Same here.

While I don't know the correct terminology, he had ticks so strong that he had to stop singing.
He seemingly keeps having to apologise for his voice breaking and not being able to hit the notes.

Fortunately because of his persona, he can get away with saying "oh sorry, that was a bit shite" and laugh it off, but it must be humiliating and frustrating.

Fortunately because of his persona, he can get away with saying "oh sorry, that was a bit shite" and laugh it off, but it must be humiliating and frustrating.

but it is also shit and rubbish for people who have paid 50 quid to see him perform. The answer is for him not to perform, or to only do short-notice gigs when he's feeling on top of his game.

You get refunded though so you have not lost out on anything.

He would have lost a lot of money from cancelling the shows.

Except that as many of us have pointed out:it often involves expensive tracmvel and hotels.

Yes very sad. They were NC at the time but I think there was always hope for a reconciliation.

But it's not just the show tickets people lose out on.

It's cost of travel, hotel accommodation, meals etc that all add up, especially as you then have to budget for those costs a second time if you want to attend the rescheduled show, and for some people they just can't afford that. Like Adele's Vegas show, people were flying in from around the world when she made the announcement - she had to have known beforehand that she wasn't going to be ready but instead of cutting her losses and cancelling early she waited until people were literally enroute to the opening night to cancel. These people were then stuck in Vegas with all the associated costs and all they got was "sorry, you can come again when we've rescheduled" despite the fact many people were fine with the rescheduled tickets but weren't fine with the added cost of a second round of flights/accomodation adding hundreds, if not thousands, to their cost total.

Not to mention for some people it's holidays from work that they then lose out on - most of my holiday allowance at work for the last few years has gone to covering childcare in the holidays (not quite so necessary now as DD is a teen so I don't need actual childcare) as ExDH and I share custody 50/50 so I had to cover half the summer/Christmas/Easter hols as well as half terms and, with using paid childcare, I just about managed while still having a few days left over for emergencies and/or to treat myself to a day off to myself.

If i book a concert and take a holiday from work only for the concert to be cancelled I have then lost a day's holiday that I could have saved to use for a trip with DD or to do something else fun

Yep, its a bummer. It's why you would be a fool to book non-refundable travel and accommodation.

Unfortunately, its a risk you take when you book shows. These are humans, with real lives, and as I have said before, they dont just cancel shows because they feel like it. Its a huge catastrophic financial loss when it happens.

Nice bit of victim blaming there. Not all travel/accommodation is refundable, and even if it is, there's usually time limits for cancellation/refund. There'll be virtually nothing you can get a refund for if a concert is cancelled on the day itself or the day before. Refundable accommodation is also usually more expensive.

Perhaps given all the money that they add on for 'fees', Ticketmaster and the other leeches could compensate proven hotel and travel costs.

It's shit, but at the end of the day you don't want your favourite singer being seriously unwell due to being overworked. Since when did people start believing they own these performers or have a right to demand their presence?

Just for info - I had tickets for a Foo Fighters gig which was cancelled b/c Dave Ghrol broke his leg. It was shit, but there you go, that's life. I don't want him performing in pain.

Not sure how advance the tours are booked, his tourettes is recent but I would be fed up if I had tickets. Let's face it Dave grohl broke his leg 2 songs into the foo fighters set, he finished the rest of the night in a chair. Old fashioned rock n roll.

You don't get the annual leave refunded, even if you insured all the monetary costs.

Grohl cancelled subsequent gigs though, including a Glastonbury set.

The best thing to do may have been for him to pay for a similar act to appear in his stead, and also to offer to refund anyones tickets who did not want to see his replacement.

Florence was absolutely brilliant at Glastonbury so great replacement and cancelling the tour after Taylor Hawkins death totally understandable

People have already said my thoughts on this - more and more artists have spoken out in recent years about how record companies essentially force them to tour and they're often not up to it. Lewis in particular clearly struggles with it.

I can see why people think his announcement wasn't very respectful but on the other hand, that leaves him in a position where the only way to get out of being overworked is to be really public about his mental health issues. I don't think that's an expectation we'd have of other people in the workplace.

Tbh, more generally I'm not of the school of thought that celebrities are lucky to have a lot of money so need to crack on and cope - I think it sounds like one of the worst working cultures imaginable, between the intensity of public and press scrutiny, to being treated like a commodity by managers behind closed doors, it's a breeding ground for mental breakdowns and substance abuse issues.

How do record companies force them to tour? I'm pretty sure the artist would need to sign a contract in return for quite a lot of money.

Have you watched his documentary? If someone had a physical problem that they thought they’d got on top of, but it flared up again it would be a different story. People suffering with mental health problems can feel well when they organise something, but x months later that may not be the case.

I think the difference now between many of the new artists and old artists is the fact those who are still going often live for performing live, they’ll stream through almost anything most don’t need the money. Look at probably the two biggest metal acts iron maiden and metallica. Metallica are astronomically rich, they are touring at the moment, two back to back shows each city, different songs each night.,I think one of their tours lasted 2 years 4-5 shows a week. They own their own back catalogue, no record company but they love playing live.

iron maiden, their singer literally went from a speaking tour to touring on his own with an orchestra through Europe and South America, had just over a month off to include rehearsing for the iron maiden show currently going through Europe playing near a two hour set every other night. Their bassist is also touring with his solo band at the same time so plays shows on some of his days off! They’ve toured every year(apart from covid for nearly 50 years - the drummer has just turned 71! It’s unlikely they need they money.

im not sure many new pop artists have the same thirst for playing live. They’ve generally not earned their stripes, slowly getting used to fame, they burn out very quickly.,Many aren't that talented auto tuned to fuck. I can imagine performing is stressful trying to make things work rather than having excitement about the performance and creativity.

A lot of the concerts Lewis cancelled were small venues to support local record shops and small venues. Tickets were less than £20 (i paid £12 a few weeks ago to see him in Kingston/London). He was amazing, so genuine, so talented but the stress/tics were so evident. He would have been loosing money on these small venues but I don't doubt for a minute that he really wanted to perform in small venues, I think he just over committed. I wish him well and respect anyone putting their mental health first.

Unfortunately, its a risk you take when you book shows. These are humans, with real lives, and as I have said before, they dont just cancel shows because they feel like it. Its a huge catastrophic financial loss when it happens

I don't think its always a huge financial risk for the artist/record company when they cancel, as they will often have significant insurance against this happening.

That may have been his words but it was time off for his mental health, have you seen his documentary? He was unable not unwilling to perform and needed to take time out. It is very unfortunate that people miss out and may lose money but health trumps everything. I have had concerts I've booked cancelled due to covid and lost lots of money on travel, can't be helped. If you are a fan try to be compassionate and empathize

Go to Halsey... You won't be disappointed. Amazing performer, really in tune with the audience.
I'd pay to see her again and again.also London Grammar.

Artists basically sign away their souls in a lot of ways to get a record deal, it often results in them being in a shitty position.