Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think it matters whether Phillip Schofield met the runner when he was 12 or 15.

258 replies

couldanyoneexplain · 02/06/2023 14:14

I've seen and heard both.
Obviously getting someone a job at 18 or 19 with exploitative intentions is sleazy in the extreme. 15 is underage and deeply concerning, but 12 is deep into paedo territory.

OP posts:
Canthave2manycats · 02/06/2023 16:28

FancyFanny · 02/06/2023 16:00

When he first met him is irrelevant as he didn't enter a sexual relationship with him until he was 20. There's little evidence he groomed him, PS has said he didn't and he'd be crazy to tell more lies at this stage in the game.

Can you actually believe a word that comes out of PS's mouth now? He needs to go away and STFU. It's disgraceful that he brought Caroline Flack into it. His blatant, bare-faced lying is still going on. He said they had 'encounters' 5 or 6 times?? So why was he at the NTA awards then? Why was the 'interview' filmed by ITV (runner interviewing PS)? Privileges which other 'lowly' staff did not get?

Worst of all I think is how he so publicly lied that his wife knew everything when he knew it... lied that he hadn't acted on his feelings since realising that he was gay... he still seems to think if he paints himself as enough of a 'victim' he can find a way back?

Every time he opens his gob, he looks even worse.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:29

MakesMeFeelSad · 02/06/2023 16:21

I really can't be arsed trying to explain it to you

Be abuse it’s no different.

An age difference and power imbalance.

But TBH is just proves my point when the runner is a child at 18 but 16yo Liam a Payne isn’t a child 🙄

Canthave2manycats · 02/06/2023 16:40

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:29

Be abuse it’s no different.

An age difference and power imbalance.

But TBH is just proves my point when the runner is a child at 18 but 16yo Liam a Payne isn’t a child 🙄

You are really not getting this are you?

The two situations aren't remotely comparable!

ElmTree22 · 02/06/2023 16:40

Starhead69 · 02/06/2023 14:20

I’m sick of hearing about it and not interested one bit.

i always think these stories come out when there are other things going on that we, the minions need distracting from

This is exactly what happens, there's something of great importance happening somewhere...let's throw some pointless shit at the general public, that'll distract them from the shit storm happening behind the scenes 🙄 and we flipping fall for it every time.

MakesMeFeelSad · 02/06/2023 16:41

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:29

Be abuse it’s no different.

An age difference and power imbalance.

But TBH is just proves my point when the runner is a child at 18 but 16yo Liam a Payne isn’t a child 🙄

She didn't know him out side of work and from him being 10 years old
She didn't get him either of his interviews or his job
She didn't have an affair with him behind her husbands back
He didn't get the sack once they split up
She wasn't hanging around him waiting for him to be of legal age
He was 22 and it was 6 years after he was on xfactor when they got together , he was just as famous as her by that point and he wasn't working for her

There has never been any rumours that she was sleeping with him at 16, 18 or even 20 so it's irrelevant if people think 18 is a child, which I don't think any one does

QuintanaRoo · 02/06/2023 16:43

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 15:01

Yes she coached him on X Factor when he was just a child!

I thought he was 22 when they got together?

AnyaMarx · 02/06/2023 16:48

Hundreds of people have affairs in the workplace.

Hundreds of people have large age gaps .

It's getting silly now . He's done nothing illegal .
Daft - yes

The guy was 20 when a sexual relationship began

I keep wondering if I'm missing something.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 02/06/2023 16:48

If what he says is to be believed, he met the young man at a visit to a drama group/school/lesson when he was 15.

And again, it he's to be believed they were Twitter friends/ followers for years after that without meeting.

Blossomtoes · 02/06/2023 16:50

Starhead69 · 02/06/2023 14:20

I’m sick of hearing about it and not interested one bit.

i always think these stories come out when there are other things going on that we, the minions need distracting from

Couldn’t agree more. It’s a witch hunt. All the people involved should be left in peace now, this isn’t helping anyone.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 02/06/2023 16:51

This young man was hardly the love of his life. The way he described their first encounter in his dressing room was that it was (paraphrasing here) a sexual approach/ act out of the blue, which he now deeply regrets.

And he was clearly having same-sex affairs with other men for a while.
It seems rather ridiculous that he would be grooming and waiting for such a young man to become 18 before approaching him for sex.
There are many other gay men he could be with.

Awrite · 02/06/2023 16:52

I think people tend to admit to as little as they think they'll get away with.

So, meeting him age 15 is probably provable. I suspect the truth is worse.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 02/06/2023 16:54

So, meeting him age 15 is probably provable. I suspect the truth is worse.

Eh? if that is provable why is there worse?

Gay men who want encounters, don't need to hang around boys of 15 for years . There is plenty of opportunity elsewhere, especially if you are rich and live in central London.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:58

Canthave2manycats · 02/06/2023 16:40

You are really not getting this are you?

The two situations aren't remotely comparable!

Why, because women can’t be predators?

MisschiefMaker · 02/06/2023 16:59

AnyaMarx · 02/06/2023 16:48

Hundreds of people have affairs in the workplace.

Hundreds of people have large age gaps .

It's getting silly now . He's done nothing illegal .
Daft - yes

The guy was 20 when a sexual relationship began

I keep wondering if I'm missing something.

Agree!

He's not a paedo if the relationship started at age 20. It's mad to suggest that.

For a while there were rumours that made it look worse that it is. I think people have just got entrenched in their positions and still have this idea in their head of PS flirting with a 10 year old.

fridaynight1 · 02/06/2023 17:05

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

If he had nothing to hide then why did he? And after JS why the hell is the BBC giving him airtime?

I personally think he's a letch and a liar who abused his power to entice this young man into his bed.

He needs to shut up whining and go and reflect.

MakesMeFeelSad · 02/06/2023 17:05

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:58

Why, because women can’t be predators?

Yeah, she was obviously just waiting around for him to turn 22 and become famous before she pounced , predatory bastard that she is!

AlexandriasWindmill · 02/06/2023 17:16

If your 'bro code' or internalised misogyny means going out to bat for groomers and bullies, you might want to rethink your life choicesHmm

HellonHeels · 02/06/2023 17:16

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 02/06/2023 14:31

Not much difference between 12 and 15, both under age.

There is a difference in law for some sex offences against children when the child is under the age of 13.

Ponoka7 · 02/06/2023 17:28

Spanielsarepainless · 02/06/2023 16:08

I was stunned that the BBC devoted the first ten minutes of their prime time news programme to an interview with this narcissistic liar.

So he could couldn't deny later on the story he's spouting at the minute.

StaunchMomma · 02/06/2023 17:39

Why aren't the press talking about the fact he admitted in court that he knew what his brother was doing with a child and didn't report him?

He was quoted word for word from court transcripts in the Guardian - where's the uproar?!!

isthismylifenow · 02/06/2023 17:42

I am on the other side of the world and quite unbelievably, this was on our news today. Why I don't know as most people here don't know who he is anyway. And they even played the clip of him from some interview (think they said BBC). That he lost everything etc.

Which then made me wonder ......why is this story making international news ? His press team maybe ?

I only know about it from this site, the general population here won't though.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 17:44

Blossomtoes · 02/06/2023 16:50

Couldn’t agree more. It’s a witch hunt. All the people involved should be left in peace now, this isn’t helping anyone.

Lease of all the man who people are getting all angry on behalf of. Despite the media not printing it, his name is easier to find that a nipple in a titty bar and I can’t imagine how distressing this speculation must be for him

Port1aCastis · 02/06/2023 17:47

Seems to me that the media distraction tactics are in full operation and I'm wondering what is going on that we the mere public are not privy to.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 17:47

MakesMeFeelSad · 02/06/2023 17:05

Yeah, she was obviously just waiting around for him to turn 22 and become famous before she pounced , predatory bastard that she is!

Well why not?

Like PS she knew him when he was a child, worked closely with him and was in a position of power in the workplace and they got together when he was old enough.

This nonsense about PS ‘waiting’ for the runner to turn 18 is pure speculation (and also ridiculous seeing as the age of consent is 2 years lower) wit absolutely not a jot of proof.

I can’t see the difference TBH.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 17:48

Port1aCastis · 02/06/2023 17:47

Seems to me that the media distraction tactics are in full operation and I'm wondering what is going on that we the mere public are not privy to.

EXACTLY

Likely our illustrious leaders and their own affairs and dodgy dealings and secretive WhatsApp conversations

Swipe left for the next trending thread