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to think it matters whether Phillip Schofield met the runner when he was 12 or 15.

258 replies

couldanyoneexplain · 02/06/2023 14:14

I've seen and heard both.
Obviously getting someone a job at 18 or 19 with exploitative intentions is sleazy in the extreme. 15 is underage and deeply concerning, but 12 is deep into paedo territory.

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Changedmymindtoday · 02/06/2023 15:49

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 02/06/2023 15:37

Good grief,there really is no hope with some people . You really think that's the bottom line?

Ya I do.

Can a criminal case be taken? Nope.
Is he the first person to cheat on their spouse? Nope
is he the first person to ever tell a lie repeatedly? Nope
Is he person I would want to be friends with? Nope

But, he can shag who ever he wants, it’s not our place to be blow it out of proportion and put him on suicide watch.
We don’t have to like him, to think this has turned into a total media pile on unnecessarily.

ohdelay · 02/06/2023 15:49

ohdelay · 02/06/2023 15:45

I have a thirteen year old boy which is why I can tell the difference between a paedo and a nonce. It's not a hard skill. Both are bad, but one is worse.

I'm probably not expressing it well, but a 12 year old is in year 7. Is towered over by all the year 7 girls and loses his jumper. A 15 year old is in year 10, is thinking about careers and wanks a lot.

caringcarer · 02/06/2023 15:52

uhtredbebbanburg · 02/06/2023 15:31

Both are pretty gross IMO. I have a 12 year old and a 15 year old and I wouldn't want a 40+ year old interested in either of them.

I can't think any parent would want an old man interested in their children.

Blippicip · 02/06/2023 15:53

Apparently it the boy was 9/10 when they first met.

TeaYarn · 02/06/2023 15:53

I’m more interested in the runner getting respect and some privacy during this time.

User18538754 · 02/06/2023 15:53

Its quite sad that people are hoping that more stuff is going to come out.

FancyFanny · 02/06/2023 16:00

When he first met him is irrelevant as he didn't enter a sexual relationship with him until he was 20. There's little evidence he groomed him, PS has said he didn't and he'd be crazy to tell more lies at this stage in the game.

Unsure33 · 02/06/2023 16:03

It’s quite clear PS aid willing to talk to the papers and insinuate this is affecting his mental health , which maybe true , but really what about his family what about their feelings ? And what about the boy ? He is an adult now why should he not give his side of the story , it might shut the whole thing down then it will hopefully just go away .

MakesMeFeelSad · 02/06/2023 16:04

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 15:01

Yes she coached him on X Factor when he was just a child!

He didn't even get past the judges houses when he first orditioned at 14 and she had nothing to do with him or one direction when he was 16, that was Simon Cowell so unlikely to be any grooming going on there and he certainly didn't get his job due to her

Unsure33 · 02/06/2023 16:05

FancyFanny · 02/06/2023 16:00

When he first met him is irrelevant as he didn't enter a sexual relationship with him until he was 20. There's little evidence he groomed him, PS has said he didn't and he'd be crazy to tell more lies at this stage in the game.

Has he said 20 then ? Is that definite ? Why did he not say that originally ?

FancyFanny · 02/06/2023 16:07

Unsure33 · 02/06/2023 16:05

Has he said 20 then ? Is that definite ? Why did he not say that originally ?

Yes, interview on BBC.

Spanielsarepainless · 02/06/2023 16:08

I was stunned that the BBC devoted the first ten minutes of their prime time news programme to an interview with this narcissistic liar.

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 02/06/2023 16:09

When I saw his partner on tv I honestly thought he was his Son.

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 02/06/2023 16:09

Or Ds in forum speak 🤣

Spanielsarepainless · 02/06/2023 16:11

He said he had lost everything. Twaddle. He threw it away.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:15

No, some of us can see that whilst it’s gross and not at too big of an age gap that does not automatically mean grooming was involved.

PS to me is just your common or garden adulterer with a penchant for younger lovers.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:17

FancyFanny · 02/06/2023 16:00

When he first met him is irrelevant as he didn't enter a sexual relationship with him until he was 20. There's little evidence he groomed him, PS has said he didn't and he'd be crazy to tell more lies at this stage in the game.

Exactly.

He didn’t HAVE to tell the truth. These rumours have tumbled on for years with little damage to PS. Yet he did, and he admitted he lied and deceived.

Honestly some people seem to want actual blood

OhYeahDefinitely · 02/06/2023 16:17

He should never have been having private social media conversations giving ‘careers advice’ to teenagers. If he didn’t realise this is unprofessional, inappropriate and tucking creepy there’s a massive problem.

viques · 02/06/2023 16:17

Noshowlomo · 02/06/2023 15:05

It’s disgusting but nothing has come of Leo Dicaprio who met his last girlfriend in the same circs- she’s Al Pacinos step daughter and he met her when she was about 10!! And then they went out when she was 20-25! Not great for either men, but Leo is just made out to be a bit of an old lech for it

Talking of Al Pacino, he is late eighties, his girl friend has just had his baby, she is 29……. Not excusing PS in anyway, who incidentally needs to be advised to stop digging a deeper hole every time he opens his mouth, but there are huge double standards around celeb “relationships” which imo are the new Weinstein/ Epstein issue that needs addressing and not ignoring.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:17

Unsure33 · 02/06/2023 16:03

It’s quite clear PS aid willing to talk to the papers and insinuate this is affecting his mental health , which maybe true , but really what about his family what about their feelings ? And what about the boy ? He is an adult now why should he not give his side of the story , it might shut the whole thing down then it will hopefully just go away .

What if the runner doesn’t WANT to.

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:18

MakesMeFeelSad · 02/06/2023 16:04

He didn't even get past the judges houses when he first orditioned at 14 and she had nothing to do with him or one direction when he was 16, that was Simon Cowell so unlikely to be any grooming going on there and he certainly didn't get his job due to her

She still worked closely in the same workplace for several months when she was an adult and he was a child.

How is it different?

pickledandpuzzled · 02/06/2023 16:18

Even a 20yr old at the ground floor in show business is very vulnerable to abuse from an over 55yr old household name, star of the show.

I don't see how it can have been anything but abusive, even if they met at 20.

It's not unlike a head teacher and a 20yr old former pupil, or the CEO and a 19yr old intern. It simple isn't supposed to happen. In any other industry it would be evidently unacceptable.

HairyKitty · 02/06/2023 16:20

Yes PS has said today that he was 20. So not illegal at all. It also seems PS has gone out of his way to avoid putting the runner in the limelight, which I imagine is how the young man wanted it otherwise he would have sold his story to the Daily Mail already.

MakesMeFeelSad · 02/06/2023 16:21

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:18

She still worked closely in the same workplace for several months when she was an adult and he was a child.

How is it different?

I really can't be arsed trying to explain it to you

viques · 02/06/2023 16:21

JuneOsborne · 02/06/2023 15:29

It's creepy as fuck. I think there's more to come. And I think it's interesting that this has been made into such a big deal. I suspect people know enough to bring him down properly (not just these hints and rumours based on some old photos. I mean proper evidence of wrong doing). It wouldn't have been such a big deal of the lad had started on this morning as an 18yo, Phil met him for the first time and at that point the affair started. Grim, perhaps, but no suggestion of any wrongdoing. But that's not what happened is it?

He can't be the only one. There must be more evidence. This story will run and run till the truth is out, I'm sure.

“There is more to come”. I reckon PS is going to decide he is really a woman , thereby hoping he will be seen as stunning and brave rather than creepy and perverted. It’s pride month, perfect timing………

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