Neighbour and big lorry

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Neighbour A lives a few doors down from neighbour B. A runs a business from home and has a weekly delivery where a large lorry enters the street to deliver stock.

B doesn’t like the lorry as she likes her kids to play out in nice weather and worries a lorry is imposing some danger towards her children. B reports A to the local council. Council investigate and finds nothing unreasonable or untoward.

A has since found alternative premises to receive deliveries but has outed B on the neighbourhood WhatsApp group. A has said B is nothing but spiteful and deceitful as could have quite easily had a chat with A and come to an agreement about any concerns or issues rather than reporting A anonymously to the council. B maintains they have done nothing wrong as she just wants her children to feel safe outside their own home.

who is being unreasonable A or B?

This!

B is the asshole in this scenario.

A weekly delivery, presumably same day of the week, within a small time window? Reasonable to me.

A pity wasting council time was not an offence in the way wasting police time is. If B drives badly, or takes illegal drugs, or anything else possibly illegal, perhaps no acceptance or tolerance and involve the police or social services.

B us unreasonable not to speak to A directly.
Going straight to the council seems rather mean.

If B has only one large vehicle stopping near her house in the course of a week, she should consider herself exceptionally lucky.

A delivery once a week is hardly a big deal, I guess it's not a juggernault size and lorries are allowed on side roads to drop off /pick up [well they are here]. Personally I'd be more worried about cars and kids, but there may be covenants about businesses in private dwellings.
I think OP could be A but it sounds a petty situation from both parties. Why can't people just speak to each other anymore, rather than come up with some old shite by text / outing on social media ? Everyone seems to have problems with actually using their voices.

It would be easier OP if you stopped messing about with the A / B thing, is this because you know both sides of it sounds silly and passive aggressive ?
Most posters on here seem to think so.

A should report B to Social Services for letting her children play unsupervised in a dangerous location rather than keeping them in the garden or taking them to a park.

B is being unreasonable, 100%. A lorry doesn't represent a danger unless you are actually in the road, playing out does not mean playing in the road. That's what local parks are for if you want to let your kids out and to be in a traffic free place.

It honestly doesn't sound like B would be capable of an adult conversation about it. They ran to the council about a non-issue instead of speaking to A. A wouldn't have gone to them first as who would honestly think their neighbour was worried about a lorry posing a specific danger to their children? It's a real stretch.
I wonder if B calls the council about the bin lorry. 🤔

But A had already experienced a neighbour trying to remove their lively hood. If you can't have deliveries you can't work presumably so B was trying to do a lot of damage

YABU with all the A and B shite

B

As you never know who is about to have a delivery the parent needs to teach the children to be aware of traffic at all times and how to stay safe on the roads if they don't feel it's safe for their children to play out they need to either....use their garden, go to the park or sit out and watch.

This

https://www.gov.uk/run-business-from-home

PermissionsTo run a business from your home, you may need permission from your:

• mortgage provider or landlord
• local planning office - eg if you’re planning on making major alterations to your home
• local council - eg if you’re going to get lots of customers or deliveries, you want to advertise outside your home or if you need a licence to run your business

Basically if someone can tell you're running a business from your home then you need permission.

B was unreasonable about the lorry.
A was unreasonable about the social media outing.
Which one are you OP?

I'm interested in what sort of "halfway house" there would be for A in this.

I mean, either you have a big lorry coming down the road or you don't. It's not like you replace it with a fleet of smaller lorries. Presumably the lorry comes because it is necessary. So there is no real compromise that you could come up with.

People might say stuff like, "have the delivery at the same time every week so B doesn't have her kids out".

Well good luck with that. Most delivery drivers are a law unto themselves unless they are timed goods deliveries getting them to stick to a specific time/date is next to impossible (I've tried it).

So in other words, B talking to A would have achieved nothing, because there is nothing A could do to mitigate the impact.

I can see that A might now be annoyed because if the council are involved there may be some issue over business rates.

Both are unreasonable but redeemed surely by giving the WhatsApp group some petty drama to discuss, this sort of juicy thing is what I live for and why I’m still on several neighbourhood chats for addresses I left years ago.

Both of you are wrong.

I think A is wrong

you Need permissions to run a business from home to avoid situations like this and B quite rightly escalated her concern to the correct people.

who appear to have now said the business is legit and they need to manafe their expectations accordingly. We don’t know if having been told that they are still making a fuss.

A however is running a business from home necessitating disruptive deliveries (I’m assuming lorry in this case is larger than a transit) and is now publically bitching that someone has expressed concern about it without speaking to them directly.
This is truly dickish behaviour.

B. It was once a week. Most weeks of the year the kids wouldnt even be outside.

I think B is considerably more unreasonable than A

B was entitled to quietly check and complain about a business being run out of home that required regular lorries on a small residential street. She didn't want to cause a stink; she wanted to know if her her concerns were valid.

A was an absolute twat by taking to social media to complain about B's inquiry/complaint/concerns. There was zero need to do so.

B would be a nightmare neighbour. Why not go and have a chat first? Ask if A could notify them on the day of the delivery so they could ensure the kids are aware and out of the way. B thinking their precious little dears take priority over A's livelihood to such an extent is just self absorbed.

Maybe A shouldn't have outed them as being a troublemaker. Perhaps A's message was more an example trying to get neighbours to resolve things in person (eg. I'm a decent person, come and talk to me, the council have checked and obviously I'm all above board) and B has just taken it more as a dig at them.

But definitely B who was being the asshole.

How the fuck does she cope on garbage day?

100% B is being unreasonable - it's only once a week, the road is public, she should teach her children road safety, and she should've spoken directly to A before going to the council (which is also a waste of council time and a bitchy overreaction).

The adult way to have dealt with this would be for B to have asked A round for a coffee / stopped her for a chat to discuss in a rational manner; there may have been an easy solution!

I understand people criticising A for the public airing, but frankly I imagine she's pretty pissed off at B's childish approach and may have snapped!