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Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

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Endlesssummer2022 · 29/05/2023 19:12

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

Welcome to Cornwall! Please don’t ruin it for us local people | Natasha Carthew

A little consideration can mean a happy holiday season for everyone, says author Natasha Carthew

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

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DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:27

Mirabai · 31/05/2023 14:10

How is this different to the tourist industry in Spain? The Spanish would say that significant areas of the coast have been destroyed by tourism.

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And? I'll back both the Cornish and the Spanish in their opposition to mass tourism. Things need to get sustainable.

Florenz · 31/05/2023 22:28

Cornwall really should be a separate part of the UK like Wales, Scotland and NI are.

somedayMaybes · 31/05/2023 22:29

Ive been twice in last 5yrs and decided not to go again. This is why:

  • obnoxious locals. If your economy is shit and you hate serving tourists , hey, UK is huge;
  • awful roads
  • rubbish shops
  • general feel of 1980/1990s just cheap, out of date vibe (not cool hippy or retro, just poor)
  • beaches arent special. Northumberland better
  • why is there no wifi or phone signal anywhere?
  • moaning about economy, no jobs, drugs, one hospital miles away. Yeh understand - so move

An over-rated run-down region with onnoxious people. At least in Norfolk, essex, kent coastline people arent so arrogant and are more integrated with rest of England and 2020s. Youre not that special Cornwall. Sorry!

Sigmama · 31/05/2023 22:30

The cornish are just 'help'? What about all the land owners, farmers, 2nd home owners, business owners?

Mirabai · 31/05/2023 22:30

DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:27

And? I'll back both the Cornish and the Spanish in their opposition to mass tourism. Things need to get sustainable.

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Spain, Italy, France, Croatia, Greece, Cyprus, Turkey, Egypt etc - you will fix mass tourism in all those countries and more? You must be some kind of demi-god.

DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:32

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 31/05/2023 16:47

"They're like ants"

This is exactly the kind of parochial xenophobia that is so prevalent and it is so shocking that you feel you can blithely write it without embarrassment. Dehumanising other people using words like ants / emmets etc shows shocking ignorance and disrespect. It's usually the preserve of the Daily Mail and the Nazis. Have a word with yourself.

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Oh don't be absurd.

Have you ever watched the way that colonies of ants scurry everywhere? Watching a crowd from above is very similar.

DontGoThereYet · 31/05/2023 22:33

emily01bristol · 31/05/2023 22:20

Firstly, on many accounts I agree with some of what you’ve said. I grew up in cornwall, now live in Bristol, and return regularly with my family to stay with my parents who run self catering cottages on the Lizard Peninsula where I grew up.

I agree some of the Cornish could be awful to tourists during Covid and I regularly moaned to my parents about it. But I also saw numerous instance of people being absolutely vile to locals. I went to a local handmade chocolate shop and witnessed one family very politely asked to wait outside as there were their maximum numbers in the shop at the moment only to be subjected to a torrent of abuse. Lots of my friends who run or work in tiny restaurants there spoke of nights when business was non existent due to people not turning up for their bookings, having not bothered to let them know - hard when they were already operating on reduced capacity. Cornwall has one main intensive care unit and for the entire of lockdown around 70% of intensive care beds were taken up by people from outside Cornwall who had broken rules to travel, and brought covid with them. This wasn’t just a few and of course it has bred a bit of resentment. The county doesn’t have a great infrastructure and sadly can be brought to its knees easily.

I’m in Cornwall at the moment and yesterday I witnessed people burying their fag butts and other rubbish in the sand and walking away, as well as one man angrily berating the lifeguard for the fact there was less beach than in the pictures (didn’t realise tides existed). Today I sat having breakfast in a popular cafe that has notices all over its website and social media saying people need to book, and a board outside saying full today, and still loads of families have come in and had a go at the teenage waitress for the fact they are too full to accommodate them.

No, it’s not all tourists fault. But I can also fully understand the frustration from the locals. And no tourists shouldn’t need reminding about decent courtesy and manners, and it’s great that you don’t. But some people really do!

‘I went to a local handmade chocolate shop and witnessed one family very politely asked to wait outside as there were their maximum numbers in the shop at the moment only to be subjected to a torrent of abuse. ‘

This kind of thing happened everywhere during the pandemic. Everywhere. Again, what makes Cornwall so special? Why on earth do you mention this as a Cornwall tourist thing and not a dickhead people thing??

Sigmama · 31/05/2023 22:33

Florenz, I'd get campaigning if I were you then

Lockheart · 31/05/2023 22:35

DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:27

And? I'll back both the Cornish and the Spanish in their opposition to mass tourism. Things need to get sustainable.

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Agreed. Mass tourism is a scourge.

Mirabai · 31/05/2023 22:35

Daftasabroom · 31/05/2023 16:11

You don't really have a point, it's just whataboutism. Are you content to see communities destroyed? You're certainly condoning it.

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It’s not a case of being content- there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it and neither can you despite your claim.

DontGoThereYet · 31/05/2023 22:36

DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:32

Oh don't be absurd.

Have you ever watched the way that colonies of ants scurry everywhere? Watching a crowd from above is very similar.

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Do you mean a bit like Cameron talking about a ‘swarm’ of migrants?

MadamWhiteleigh · 31/05/2023 22:38

Cornwall has one main intensive care unit and for the entire of lockdown around 70% of intensive care beds were taken up by people from outside Cornwall who had broken rules to travel, and brought covid with them

This kind of thing is ridiculous. That’s just an unsubstantiated rumour. How does the hospital know where people are from, when they travelled and why? And even if they did, would they release such information? For what purpose? Point me to an official statement from the hospital that confirms what you just said.

NameforMN · 31/05/2023 22:38

It seems to me the answer is to control second homes and air b n b etc. That way there are fewer options for places to stay which will reduce the number of tourists. There would also be more homes for locals.

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 31/05/2023 22:39

@justasking111

"Homeland"

Your homeland is England or Great Britain or the United Kingdom.

Cornwall is not a country.

Sigmama · 31/05/2023 22:39

We're all tourists and all locals at different points, a little tolerance would go a long way

DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:40

PaulineG1990 · 31/05/2023 18:35

To be honest I am a bit fed up with the Cornish people’s attitudes. If it wasn’t for people like me going to one of my second homes in Cornwall they would struggle to exist. It’s bad enough that there are hardly any branches of Waitrose and the roads aren’t wide enough for my SUV as it is without listening to them winging.

It’s stressful enough as it is having to put up with ‘council estate’ tourists with football tops and belly’s hanging over their tracksuit bottoms wandering around past my house all day.

LOL.

Is there a Cornwall equivalent of the "Cheshire Set" Twitter feed that parodies the second homers in Abersoch?

Florenz · 31/05/2023 22:40

Just ban second homes. Anyone caught with a second home, loses both their homes. Simple and effective.

emily01bristol · 31/05/2023 22:42

Of course it is a dickhead thing and not a Cornish tourist thing. If you re-read my post that was what I was saying. In the same way that some people overreacting to it and being unpleasant to tourists is also a dickhead thing and not a Cornish thing. Again it happens all over the UK, and I imagine all over the world. That was my point.

Mirabai · 31/05/2023 22:43

Florenz · 31/05/2023 22:40

Just ban second homes. Anyone caught with a second home, loses both their homes. Simple and effective.

Yes that would work.

Back in the real world…

emily01bristol · 31/05/2023 22:44

It was lockdown, travel was banned and their home addresses are provided when they are admitted. It’s not rocket science.

MadamWhiteleigh · 31/05/2023 22:48

emily01bristol · 31/05/2023 22:44

It was lockdown, travel was banned and their home addresses are provided when they are admitted. It’s not rocket science.

Ok. So what was the source of this information?

DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:49

TunnocksOrDeath · 31/05/2023 20:50

Amazingly, London is also full of unique culture and history. Our waiting staff also expect to be tipped. We also get annoyed when tourists cause travel carnage by forgetting to pack their common sense, and position themselves stupidly (don't stand about with your luggage discussing your route at the bottom of escalators, and please: READ the signs, stand on the RIGHT, let people pass on the left!). We also get annoyed when folks come to our famous streets and use them as urinals. And if you think outsiders buying in Cornwall is affecting prices for locals: try renting a flat on a barista's salary anywhere further toward the centre of London than zone 5. Why so many folks in Cornwall think these issues are unique to their corner of our green and pleasant land is just baffling. There's a mix of arsholes and angels pretty much everywhere, really.

Has anyone from Cornwall actually said that their issues are unique?

justasking111 · 31/05/2023 22:53

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 31/05/2023 22:39

@justasking111

"Homeland"

Your homeland is England or Great Britain or the United Kingdom.

Cornwall is not a country.

I never said Cornwall was a country. I have been there since I was 18 50 years ago, so what's your point?

DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:53

Mirabai · 31/05/2023 22:30

Spain, Italy, France, Croatia, Greece, Cyprus, Turkey, Egypt etc - you will fix mass tourism in all those countries and more? You must be some kind of demi-god.

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Take a trip to Specsavers. I said that I would back them, not that I could fix anything.

justasking111 · 31/05/2023 22:56

DdraigGoch · 31/05/2023 22:40

LOL.

Is there a Cornwall equivalent of the "Cheshire Set" Twitter feed that parodies the second homers in Abersoch?

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Abersoch is overrated, far better places, but I'm not telling 🤣🤣

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