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Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

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Endlesssummer2022 · 29/05/2023 19:12

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

Welcome to Cornwall! Please don’t ruin it for us local people | Natasha Carthew

A little consideration can mean a happy holiday season for everyone, says author Natasha Carthew

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

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CanofCant · 30/05/2023 09:27

1dayatatime · 29/05/2023 21:38

@cakeorwine

"That's a lot of money coming in to the local economy"

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However this assumes that the money stays in the local economy.
The Airbnb or holiday is most likely owned by someone living outside of Cornwall (as the locals can afford their own homes let alone a second home).
Food is bought by tourists in supermarkets in their home towns or on the way to Cornwall especially as local supermarkets simply can't keep up demand from tourists.

The restaurant or cafes again are generally not owned by locals.

But yes the locals do get the low paid seasonal tourist jobs but are then sent packing to the "townships" of mid Cornwall at the end of the day.

Off to the townships. Yes, absolutely! You can't get a mortgage on a seasonal, zero hour contract job. All the beautiful chocolate box houses are Airbnb anyway. It's fucking bullshit.

Letsallthinkofaname · 30/05/2023 09:31

MasterBeth · 30/05/2023 09:27

Locals are not some homogeneous mass who all behave the same, any more than tourists are. It's OK to be a local and be pissed off that incomers are buying up local housing stock so you can't afford it.

So can the entirety of the UK do the same? After all Londoners have a right to moan about rich incomers pricing them out which means the surrounding counties then get priced out and then the pretty holiday locations get priced out ... As has been said multiple times it's not a problem specific to the Cornish

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:32

That photo full of cars near the beach, - why doesn't the council lease some more space, or a local land owner open up a field, there are usually solutions to most problems, people should be able to access beaches

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:37

Idayatatime, plenty of cornish own the local restaurants, plenty of tourists get supermarket deliveries from the local supermarket or shop there. Why would you want to travel with stinky cheese and fresh milk in you car, or indeed on the train, which really is the only way to travel to Cornwall, imho

Bromleymassive · 30/05/2023 09:38

Ah this thread appears every year. And for the last few years Mumsnet has had to sift through all the xenophobic posts which tend to be the same users manually changing their username. And here we are again, same keyboard warriors bitter from a holiday blip that happened years ago.

And those who say "careful what you wish for" 😂 as if 4 million people are going to read this insignificant poxy thread and decide not to visit Cornwall.

For anyone else who is labelling THE CORNISH vs LONDONERS. - there are many of us who are both. Or who have been both. On my little street of 250k semi detached houses - many people here have grandparents who moved to Cornwall in the 70s and 80s (from London!)

Many kids leave Cornwall, go to university and then move back.

And for ALL those people in the hospitality industry - yeah, those are more likely to be teenagers and students 😂

What a weird, narrow minded thread. Surely we're better than reading the same old click bait news?

I guess it's all about having the skills for critical thinking, knowing when to spot hyperbolic news and click bait. A little self awareness goes a long long way.

It's quite similar to the newspapers who front page weather articles for the seasonal increase in clicks and readership. Open your eyes and stop falling for it...

Enjoy your holidays and please don't leave hot bbqs, syringes and broken glass in the sand. 😘

SunnySideDow · 30/05/2023 09:40

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:32

That photo full of cars near the beach, - why doesn't the council lease some more space, or a local land owner open up a field, there are usually solutions to most problems, people should be able to access beaches

I don’t even know where to start with this 😂

Gtsr443 · 30/05/2023 09:41

It's OK to be a local and be pissed off that incomers are buying up local housing stock so you can't afford it.

That's how I feel about Surrey.

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:42

Sunnyside, go on give it a go, think of solutions, instead of laughing sneering complaining

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:43

Bromley, your post was great until the last sentence

crackofdoom · 30/05/2023 09:44

Sigmama
In some places this happens, but in many places there IS no more room- steep sided, narrow valleys etc.

I reiterate my previous comment. When visiting popular spots in Cornwall (or anywhere else for that matter)in the summer, things would go far smoother if anyone able bodied was prepared to walk the last mile. Unfortunately, we have such a car culture now that most people would find that outrageous.

What I think would be useful would be for the council to lay shuttle buses on for some of the tourist honeypots, and seasonally restrict parking at some beachfront car parks to blue badge only (and I would also allow families with children under 5, but don't know how you could police that!)

Letsallthinkofaname · 30/05/2023 09:44

SunnySideDow · 30/05/2023 09:40

I don’t even know where to start with this 😂

Try. Other counties do it. Surely locals want to access these areas too no? So compulsory purchase orders on the land, get the parking and toilets in place and oh what's that space for a couple of local businesses to start up too? Why not ...

Bromleymassive · 30/05/2023 09:46

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:43

Bromley, your post was great until the last sentence

Ah I'm sorry. It's just I've stepped on all 3 items on Gylly in Falmouth 😔

I wish the Council would do an awareness campaign on it.

Bring your crocs and have fun!

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:47

Filter the parking off to fields further away from the beach, with clear sign posting, I've seen this work in several places on a seasonal basis

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:49

barbecues, broken glass and syringes are hazards in other places

dishyrishi · 30/05/2023 09:50

I was on my family local beach the other day (I'm a much scorned Londoner who's married into Cornish).

I know a few of the locals, and this one local family left their dirty nappies on the beach!!

So it's not all tourists creating the problem, it's a stupid people problem.

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 09:51

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:47

Filter the parking off to fields further away from the beach, with clear sign posting, I've seen this work in several places on a seasonal basis

Depends on the farming, what's being grown, the landscape, the state of the ground, etc. Fields aren't just 'empty spaces' where you can stick cars.

Maireas · 30/05/2023 09:56

I don't understand about the supermarket shelves being cleared - can't they plan ahead and order more stuff for extra visitors? Am I missing something here?

dishyrishi · 30/05/2023 09:58

Maireas · 30/05/2023 09:56

I don't understand about the supermarket shelves being cleared - can't they plan ahead and order more stuff for extra visitors? Am I missing something here?

Yep, the bit you're missing is the store manager likely can't be arsed to plan ahead

kirinm · 30/05/2023 09:58

@Aslanplustwo what problems do you think you have that a city like London doesn't have? We don't have beaches but we have extreme poverty, people who treat areas like shit, dodgy landlords, ridiculously prices property.

The idea that areas where people holiday have it worse than the rest of the country is so tiresome.

We won't go to Cornwall - only because it is too far from where we live but we go to Devon regularly. We stay with family who work with the RNLI and when they were younger, the coastguard. I have never heard them bitch about tourists. We've been to two major beaches who definitely have a good set up in terms of parking and shops,

I wouldn't want to live here so no issues with us buying a second home or moving.

kirinm · 30/05/2023 09:59

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:49

barbecues, broken glass and syringes are hazards in other places

Yep. Go to any London park on a hot day.

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Bromleymassive · 30/05/2023 10:01

Sigmama · 30/05/2023 09:49

barbecues, broken glass and syringes are hazards in other places

Yes I agree..

But clearly the OP started this thread to reach 4 million people 😉 - so if it teaches one person to not leave hazardous items on the ground then it's a good thing.

😂

kirinm · 30/05/2023 10:01

In fact, step outside my house on the school run and you'll dodge broken glass and dog mess. Unfortunately lots of people are just lazy and inconsiderate. (And I live in an area that has supposedly been gentrified).

Bromleymassive · 30/05/2023 10:02

I'm from Bromley - you don't have to tell me about hazards!

CalistoNoSolo · 30/05/2023 10:05

Cornwall is the most overrated holiday destination in the UK and probably the whole of Europe. Its never appealed to me, and why people spend hours stuck in traffic for some very ordinary beaches and countryside and vastly overpriced holiday homes just to spend hours the following week trying to get back out again is beyond me.

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