Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

[Endlesssummer2022]

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

Tenby has a population of 4,000 and attracts two million visitors a year. That’s half the number that visit Cornwall as a whole.

I thought that.
I live in the SE in a (not pretty, but popular with east londoners) seaside town. 1300 would barely get you a decent flat here.
It's not exclusive to Cornwall!
We know what beaches to go to, we avoid the popular parts. It's not difficult.

Tbf I don’t think they need tourists as a trigger to start a full on fight at a taxi rank in Plymouth. They are quite capable of just fighting amongst themselves.

'I do think it's ridiculous when people talk about 'our beaches' or 'our houses.' I live in Westminster - we don't think it's 'our Houses of Parliament' or 'our River Thames.'

Exactly! You live in a house in an area, that is it. It doesn't give you a claim over the area.

I bet country folk are hopeless driving in city traffic, I bet they're slow in a lot of things the Tube etc. But it doesn't give anyone the right to tell anyone how to behave when they're on 'their patch'.

Cornwall sounds like The Lake District tbh, too small to accommodate vast amounts of visitors people should really go elsewhere. I bet there'd be lots of sad faces in pasty shops then about ruined businesses.

I think all this came to a head with the pandemic, and people holidaying in the UK. Now that people are going abroad again (which will often be cheaper) it may subside.

Yep.

I'm here now, some family are Cornish.

They want our money, but don't want us here. Sadly they're to stupid to realise you can't have one without the other.

Apparently not were drinking all their water too lol

Added to that, their incessant belief that Cornwall is the only place where there's poverty and a housing crisis - it's everywhere and it's happening all over the UK!

I'll summarise it as them thinking they are special, different, more important - which of course they're not.

I live in Dorset. It is genuinely like people cross the border and forget how to park considerately, what a bin looks like and just general manners. All in the spirit of "fuck it we are on holiday". I find it baffling and I'm 90% sure they wouldn't treat their home towns like it. I can only speak for dorset/devon/Cornwall. I imagine it's the same in any tourist spot.

There's a very unpleasant undertone to this thread - the Cornish should be grateful for our money, how dare they consider their beaches their beaches, they're stupid, they and their little pasty shops would soon go under if I wasn't so benevolent, how dare they have genuine concerns about a real lack of drinking water, hospital beds etc which are exacerbated by a huge number of visitors.

It's really ugly to see this sort of attitude.

I was just looking at the pasty shop comment and thinking about the fact that the year long population has increased here due to new developments flying up everywhere (and not holiday flats). We can’t cope out of season anymore in terms of things that care (medical centre has just stopped accepting new patients) and it can be hard to get a restaurant reservation even in winter - so the pasty shops and cafes that relied solely on tourist trade don’t so much these days, whereas 30 years ago the town centre was deserted out of season and cafes closed “for the winter”. That doesn’t happen here now.

I bet they don't park properly at home tbh. People like that behave the same wherever they are.

I imagine it's the same everywhere, tourist spot or not.

*and not just holiday flats

@SunnySideDow
Then it's the local councils fault for lack of planning. Same everywhere I'm afraid.

In Herts our hospitals are filled to the brim. No new docs schools new houses going up in all the villages. Greens even got the local election in ware which is unheard of.

"There's a very unpleasant undertone to this thread - the Cornish should be grateful for our money, how dare they consider their beaches their beaches, they're stupid, they and their little pasty shops would soon go under if I wasn't so benevolent, how dare they have genuine concerns about a real lack of drinking water, hospital beds etc which are exacerbated by a huge number of visitors."

But again, why is Cornwall different to anywhere else? Do you think visitors don't use hospital beds in London? And yes, I can say we are grateful for people visiting and the boost to the London economy from millions of tourists all year round.

It was always a problem where I grew up on the Isle of Wight. It was relatively ok in the sense it rubbed along though there was a campaign to split and have a status like the Channel Islands and some always disliked overners. The pandemic changed that, my friend got divorced and 80% of homes were being looked at by Londoners according to her estate agent, I am actually mates with another agent who was a school friend and they confirmed it was true. It has bred resentment. The Airbnb issue is a huge problem because as well as forcing up house prices even more who wants to live next to one. I wouldn’t.

My friend did manage to buy but the house next door to her has just come up for sale and she is very worried it may be bought to Airbnb out. Even if people aren’t total animals a holiday home always has the potential to have more noise. People arriving late at night, sitting in the garden till late on a nice summer evening mid week just stuff like that.

I specifically have specifically chosen to always live in non touristy places, have had three major relocations in my life due to work.

No I'm talking about the beach roads where cars are literally just dumped on pavements/verges/blocking the road etc like this image. Parking alone causes a huge amount of resentment before the amount of rubbish left and entitlement comes into it.

We really don't get this in Norfolk.
How tourism is managed is very much down to the ability of county and local councils.

You get the occasional twat who likes to play football with baby seals or lob smouldering disposable BBQs on swans' nests but apart from that it is families wobbling along lanes on bikes and people in socks and sandals looking for bitterns.

When there was an issue with people getting pissed on hire boats they just banned alcohol on the boats.
Parking issues- created more affordable parking. (Take note Dorset with your insane NT parking prices.)
Litter - provided more bins and emptied them regularly.

Tourism creates 65,000 jobs and brings in over £3billion in Norfolk.
Without it we're scuppered.

Tourism needs to be regulated and managed.

The govt and local authorities are going to have to get a handle on this - it can't go on just spiralling into bad feeling forever.

I lived in a Sussex "touristy" area for a few years. Near historic towns, and near nice beaches.

It was busy with day trippers most of the year, and holidaymakers during the summer.

We had a problem with waste, including human waste, and I'm not excusing that sort of behaviour, but part of the problem was that the council had shut all the public loos, to save money, and pubs wouldn't allow anyone to use theirs, unless they were buying drinks or a meal.

Waste bins were few and far between.

Perhaps councils need to look at the facilities they should be providing.

Im back in London now, (thank goodness), and although central London is rammo with tourists, we do provide plenty of toilets..🙄

Just another hick County that looks lovely on the surface but in reality is one of the worst areas for privilege vs poverty. The Lakes is the same, people born into an absolute pot of gold if they live in the hot spots but impoverished if they dare be born 15 miles away on the coast. Their problem is each other but they blame the tourists as the easy target, apparently oblivious that the tourists provide most of them with income whether they're rich or poor.

Why the assumption that all tourists and those who behave badly are from London? Talk about stereotyping. Many of us Londoners can’t afford a British seaside holiday. If I get a chance for a break, I prefer to take a few days in another city where there’s always plenty to do if the weather’s bad and people don’t care whether you’re a tourist or not.

Do you really think that no one at all that lives in Dorset/Devon and Cornwall parks badly, drops litter or behaves like a knob...?
People do behave like that in their own towns unfortunately, its just that because you get so many visitors at one time you get every towns quota of idiots at once that the impact is greater!! . My DH is always lamenting the amount of litter and fast food packaging in towns local to us, people drive aggressively, park badly etc only the other day my DD and I were eye rolling at a man behaving like a moron in a supermarket carpark (in a mundane completely untouristy place just outside the m25)
I'm really not buying that all tourists are like that or that most people have special holiday behaviour

I won’t go there because they say mean things. So there.

Honestly, grow up.

or maybe don’t, because it’s probably nicer without wallies like you there.

I love Norfolk. It's got everything you could want from a staycation - including lovely locals, plenty of parking and public toilets. Cornwall really could learn a thing or two from them.

Locals are not some homogeneous mass who all behave the same, any more than tourists are. It's OK to be a local and be pissed off that incomers are buying up local housing stock so you can't afford it.

The Cornish are too lazy to be bothered to fix the problem, they just like to moan about it.

Us Emmetts annoy them, they want our money but aren't prepared to think smart to fix half their issues.