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Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

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Endlesssummer2022 · 29/05/2023 19:12

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

Welcome to Cornwall! Please don’t ruin it for us local people | Natasha Carthew

A little consideration can mean a happy holiday season for everyone, says author Natasha Carthew

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

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IheartNiles · 29/05/2023 22:43

The people who behave like this are very unlikely to be Guardian readers (or readers of anything, let’s face it). So it’s a pointless article.

I’m also fed up with threads like this as it seems to stir hatred. Have holidayed in Cornwall hotspots plenty of times over many decades and always felt welcome but we’re good drivers, avoid rush hours, courteous to people and don’t leave a mess.

it’s a very poor county with huge wealth inequalities and lack of opportunities and housing for the working age population. This leads to desperate people hitting out at others. We saw it more widely in many counties in the UK with the unpopular rise in immigration which led to Brexit. We need to start addressing people’s concerns.

NatashaDancing · 29/05/2023 22:44

the local population avoids the city like the plague during the Festival and Hogmanay, they're there for the tourists.

That's utter bollocks re the Fringe and the Festival.

DontGoThereYet · 29/05/2023 22:45

Have not read the thread but yes, the preciousness from people in Devon and Cornwall during the pandemic was disgusting. I wouldn’t go there again. Here in london I accept tourists as a way of
life and I actually welcome them and proactively help them in tube stations etc when they look lost.

Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:47

1dayatatime, that may be, my point is that the cornish are also part of the issue

StarmanBobby · 29/05/2023 22:47

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you.’

cornwall - overpriced, overcrowded, full of twats, locals rely on and HATE tourists in equal measure. swore after the last time we’d never go back…
want that landscape - Northern Ireland very similar and not overcrowded, white sand beaches , super friendly people… Yorkshire - beautiful, lovely people great landscape.

kirinm · 29/05/2023 22:50

Tansytea · 29/05/2023 19:47

It's pathetic isn't it? You'd think that Cornwall is the only destination like this, you don't get people whinging like they are something special in Devon and yet year after year, on it goes. It's not at all that the bad behaviour is acceptable, it's the moaning exceptionalism and the fiercely independent bollocks. Go to Wales instead, it's nicer and you don't have to put up with this load of tosh about being different when in fact it's just like everywhere else in England.

This 👏

kirinm · 29/05/2023 22:51

Teddypops · 29/05/2023 19:50

It's the number of tourists too.

I work in property and the number of rentals that have now turned to Airbnb's is insane. The amount of pop up campsites too.

Some locals are cross because tenants have been evicted for no fault of their own for their home to be availed for tourists.

The market was completely flooded and luckily some of them are now changing back to longer term rentals.

Most people don't have anything against tourists, it's the sheer numbers and bad behaviour.

Whose fault is that? It's the owners of the house. How are tourists meant to know that a tenant has been kicked out?

FrostyFifi · 29/05/2023 22:52

@Bk1000 I've noticed more and more of the hire motorhomes on the NC500, which is inevitably going to skew towards people who don't know what they're doing and can't drive them properly.

We have a camper but we don't go except well out of season now, we use and appreciate the new aires/overnight stops that have popped up recently.

I feel so bad for the locals. It's beautiful but hardly a convenient place to live and the trade off should be peace, quiet and safely.

Lockheart · 29/05/2023 22:52

kirinm · 29/05/2023 22:51

Whose fault is that? It's the owners of the house. How are tourists meant to know that a tenant has been kicked out?

Common sense. Flats and houses don't just spring out of nowhere. Anyone with half a brain would be able to work out that many AirBnBs etc were once a home.

Piglet89 · 29/05/2023 22:53

I think it was summer 2021 everyone I know was going down to Cornwall, as they couldn’t get abroad, including a couple we know who are both from outside the U.K. and would definitely usually have travelled abroad for their usual “big” holiday. We were like, “seriously, does nobody have an original idea?” Fucking lemmings.

We’re from Argyll and Northern Ireland (live in London). Both places really friendly and we have family locally. Cornwall’s miles away and apparently a complete nightmare in peak season. Will be giving it a swerve, I think.

peachespeachespeaches · 29/05/2023 22:54

Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:42

Peaches, and plenty of tourists know how to google and read a tide timetable

And yet, here we are. Still rescuing them from ridiculous sea activities and hollering because they've decided to ignore the Lifeguard flags and send their kids off to play in the surfing bit.

TeaParty4Me · 29/05/2023 22:56

I’m Cornish and have no issue with anyone visiting.
If we didn’t have tourism Cornwall would be even poorer.

What I do have an issue with is rude and entitled people visiting, leaving litter everywhere, abusing the wildlife like seals on the beach, parking wherever they want etc but this happens wherever British people go and it’s not just in Cornwall.

I find it offensive that some people judge and discriminate an entire county of people.

The worst people I’ve met in Cornwall happen to be those who have moved down after holidaying here for years and then complain about the holiday makers coming down.

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 29/05/2023 22:57

Ok I'm in Cornwall at the moment. So far

Everyone has been friendly and very happy to take our money.

I have not seen any rubbish in the verges or anywhere in the town we are staying in and the surrounding areas.

Compared to my
Home county (Herts) Cornwall has been very civilised. It's busy but I've seen no anti social Behaviour
The rubbish dumped in my
County is horrific Litter strewn over all over THe Road verges Plus the fly
Tipping. No one sees to give a shit about how it looks or the wildlife.

Cornwall
Seems
To have got some
Things right.

TeaParty4Me · 29/05/2023 22:58

I’ve lost count of how many times holiday makers have had a go at me for driving to my own home, when there is other way to get there apart from driving on the road that they want to walk on.

Some people forget that we have lives and jobs to go to everyday.

I still love the tourists though and I know the minority do not reflect the majority.

Motorcycleemptyness · 29/05/2023 23:00

havent read the full thread but the Cornish banging on about tourists TO Londoners makes me laugh. You can barely move in London for tourists and we’re all so used to being priced out of our homes. Preaching to the fucking choir, lads!!!

pompomdaisy · 29/05/2023 23:10

I no longer live in the Lake District but during lockdown people were taking themselves off to walk in the hills ( against the law at the time) then having to be rescued ( all volunteers). Tourist hotspots got pretty pissed off by crappy behaviour of tourists at the time. It hasn't recovered unfortunately.

justasking111 · 29/05/2023 23:12

Cornwall is a strange anomaly in that it's crammed sardine like in the height of summer and deserted in the winter. Their hospitals struggle with the influx.

Other tourist areas including mine are reasonably busy in the winter business wise but need the summer boost. This week I've worked out alternative routes to get somewhere or delayed until next week. BUT I understand that tourism does benefit our community but come September it's nice to quieten down again.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 29/05/2023 23:13

Lockheart · 29/05/2023 19:21

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage… And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff.

I have no idea how you could object to any of that.

And if it was my food shops being cleared out by tourists, my local roads clogged so I couldn't get to work, and my community destroyed by second homes I'd probably be a bit narked too.

If only there was a solution, such as shops ordering more stock for busy periods. But then again, who could predict Cornwall being busy with tourists in summer?

1dayatatime · 29/05/2023 23:19

@Tansytea

"Go to Wales instead, it's nicer and you don't have to put up with this load of tosh about being different when in fact it's just like everywhere else in England."

++++
Except neither the Welsh or Cornish see themselves as English.

MaggyNoodles · 29/05/2023 23:21

I've been to Cornwall loads of times and never met anyone that wasn't polite and friendly.

Ironically, I live in an area that was a shit tip for decades but has now 'benefited' from investment funding and it's attracting tonnes of visitors. On a nice day you can't park, get a table in a cafe or a spot on the beach. Loads of rubbish left behind and swathes of loud, lairy people drinking, swearing and smoking all over the place. I bloody hate it and want them all to fuck off back to wherever they used to go before we got a cinema and few chain restaurants (which we didn't want).

Florenz · 29/05/2023 23:21

Cornwall really doesn't have the infrastructure to cope with all the tourists. In my work we always have problems in the summer sending technicians to work there, as the traffic can be absolutely terrible and hold them up for hours. There's no motorways in the county at all and a lot of the A-roads are really quite narrow country roads.

The problem is that the tourists think it's a theme park, not a place where the locals have to live and work. Londoners are definitely the worse, I don't care what anyone says. They think because they have money that they should rule the roost.

Fizbosshoes · 29/05/2023 23:21

We've visited Cornwall a few times and loved it. We always try to behave on holiday as at home eg drive, park and behave in a courteous way to others. Be polite to shop/hospitality staff, tip when appropriate, don't leave litter and would do our best to obey any rules or requests.

There seems to be an assumption that people change their behaviour or personality when they are on holiday when in fact there are (unfortunately) a minority of twatty and anti-social idiots everywhere, and so will behave in an unpleasant way whilst on holiday.

Although you would think from a lot of threads each summer that
a) every single tourist in Cornwall and the Lake District doesn't know how to drive in a country lane, leaves a ton of litter and is a rude arrogant idiot
b) no one who lives in these places ever goes on holiday so is never a tourist elsewhere.

WibblyWobblyLane · 29/05/2023 23:23

I have never been to Cornwall but live in another touristy area, and I don't think councils get their share of the blame.

Not enough public toilets and cafés only allowing patrons only (which is understandable) but means when they are out and about/when it's hot and been drinking lots/when they've been drinking alcohol, the only place to have a wee is in a Bush.
Very few bins out and about. Visitors SHOULD put their rubbish back in their bags and take it with them, but they don't and they'd be more likely to chuck it in a bin than on the floor if they were more prevalent.
Allowing for pubs to have alcohol licences that keeps them open till stupid o'clock.

Our area has, just before covid, introduced a system where the country roads have constant areas for 2 cars to pass and constant signage about who has right of way. It has resulted in far less traffic from people trying to pass. Twenty minutes down the road, the queues are regular, as they don't have these spaces to pass (or very few) and right of way is a battle of wills.

catherinedubliners · 29/05/2023 23:23

They have a right to voice their concerns.

TheFleetFoxes · 29/05/2023 23:25

Paq · 29/05/2023 21:22

@TheFleetFoxes it's a bit more nuanced than that. The "incomers" don't understand how they are affecting the local community and some of the locals are trying to ignore the inevitable changes to their village/life.

But MN threads don't require so nuance.

Yes of course. You’re a superior Cornish person. Therefore you understand nuance and I don’t.

You compared two films that had nothing else in common other than being made in Cornwall. Hardly nuanced thinking. Amusing though.

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