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Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

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Endlesssummer2022 · 29/05/2023 19:12

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

Welcome to Cornwall! Please don’t ruin it for us local people | Natasha Carthew

A little consideration can mean a happy holiday season for everyone, says author Natasha Carthew

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

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Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:11

1dayatatime, plenty of cornish air bnb

Florenz · 29/05/2023 22:12

Londoners cause most of the problems in this country. Especially when they go elsewhere and behave in an entitled manner.

Teddypops · 29/05/2023 22:12

Lesina · 29/05/2023 22:02

I lost all respect for the Cornish when they behaved like lunatics during the pandemic. One woman was on telly going on about how ‘ only the Cornish understand the sea’ and no one outside of Cornwall should visit cornwall… It’s an island, we are and island nation. A fair few of us understand how the sea works. Irritating people. Ridiculous jumpers.

There are idiots in all Counties.

1dayatatime · 29/05/2023 22:15

@SashaPearce

"What was the behaviour during Covid?"

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The Cornish got upset that 62% (£100 million) of local government support for small businesses went to second home owners rather than local businesses because technically they were "businesses" are therefore eligible to apply.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10044949/amp/Furious-Cornwall-residents-demand-countys-second-home-owners-PAY-100m-Covid-relief-grants.html

Apologies for a link to the Daily Mail.

SocksAndTheCity · 29/05/2023 22:15

Florenz · 29/05/2023 22:12

Londoners cause most of the problems in this country. Especially when they go elsewhere and behave in an entitled manner.

You again 🤣🤣🤣

What exactly was it that the 9 million+ of us did to incur your wrath? I've forgotten since your last excitable, shiny-faced rants on whichever London-bashing thread it was 😂

Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:16

Cornwall - brexit, London - remain, I know which place has more tolerance

DdraigGoch · 29/05/2023 22:16

lankyhanky · 29/05/2023 20:22

And do you think tourists only inconvenience those in Cornwall? Do you hear Londoners complaining about tourists cramming into the tubes during rush hour with all their children whilst Londoners are trying to get to and from work?

Or those tourists who clog the roads in London?

The tourists who block the paths in London.

Do you realise how ridiculous it sounds??

Of course Londoners whinge about tourists. Usually though they find it easier to just elbow them out of the way.

Venetians moan about tourists, Spaniards moan about tourists, Highlanders moan about tourists, the Welsh moan about tourists... Basically anywhere that gets flooded with them will moan.

1dayatatime · 29/05/2023 22:19

Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:11

1dayatatime, plenty of cornish air bnb

62% of all holiday homes and Airbnb owners are registered as outside Cornwall.

Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:20

Yet not all people moan about tourists, i don't mind them and I've lived in several touristy areas

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 29/05/2023 22:21

gogohmm · 29/05/2023 21:24

@CanofCant don't get me started on tides! The poor lifeboat crew are rescuing people who wouldn't have had an issue if they simply checked

True... But someone who has lived all their life inland and is not particularly well educated or informed is not likely to understand tides. Maybe not at all, but certainly not in the way coastal people do. I mean, how many people in Penzance understand the London Congestion charge or the ULEZ rules?

Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:21

1dayatatime - 38% is not insignificant

WestwardHo1 · 29/05/2023 22:22

I hate these threads. They just stir up even more ill feeling.

However I've worked in Cornish tourism for years and will say that I've known people return year after year. I've seen families come to the same place since their kids were tiny, who are now grown up. They can't all feel unwelcome and put upon and despised and moaned about or they wouldn't come.

Too many visitors all at once do cause problems. It's a fact of life. However this has really been the first busy week down here. This spring has been noticeably quiet for visitors numbers, even more so than last spring

FiveShelties · 29/05/2023 22:24

Endlesssummer2022 · 29/05/2023 19:52

The kind of people who shit in bags and drink to the point of vomiting on holiday aren’t the kind who will read The Guardian, suddenly have a lightbulb moment and change their disgusting behaviour.

I have no idea what the author expected to achieve writing an article which will be read by the type of tourist who are highly unlikely to go on pub crawls, sing ‘2 world wars, 1 World Cup’ and get into street fights. So what was the point of this patronising article?

Surely the point was to get people reading the article, talking about it and perhaps even posting on MN about it.

Nanananananana99 · 29/05/2023 22:28

Endlesssummer2022 · 29/05/2023 19:32

Because it’s patronising and rude. There is no need to explain to grown adults who weren’t dragged up not to be rude to people, to pay tips in restaurants or that glass breaks and gets stuck in sand. Or that an area has a unique history and culture - everywhere does. It’s as if she thinks all tourists are thick boors.

Everybody hates a tourist. Isn’t that the whole point of the Pulp Song!

People who want your money smile and put up with bad behaviour. (Because that’s what you are really saying here: ‘I pay my money so should be able to do what I like and be beyond criticism)

Not every person in Cornwall works in the tourist industry and so I’m not surprised that they don’t want to get down on bended knee for someone that isn’t treating the area and people where they live with respect.

I feel no particular way about Cornwall, most places have tourists and most local people probably want to live their lives in peace.

We all know trickle down economics is a load of rubbish so there is no point saying that everyone in who lives in a tourist hotspot has to put up with being looked down upon by people who unfortunately think that having a little money makes them above normal societal behaviour.

It’s actually a quintessential part of being British to go on holiday somewhere and have all the locals look at you like scum until you prove otherwise.

The whole modern attitude of ‘I’m a customer and that’s more important that just being human’ is very American and just shows how commercialism has really taken us over since the 90s.

LemonjeIIo · 29/05/2023 22:28

Teddypops · 29/05/2023 19:34

I'm a Cornish local and I can assure you that I am very lovely.

However, I love where I live but it becomes utterly vile during Summer. The roads, the beaches the shops etc. Thats why some of us may get grumpy,

I've seen lots and lots of appalling behaviour from tourists over the years. The worst was 2021 when the Benidorm Brigade landed.

Who were the Benidorm brigade?

NoTouch · 29/05/2023 22:29

Twanky · 29/05/2023 22:02

Edinburgh has so many events all through the year to milk the tourists, they can hardly complain that they come, it's a regular money spinner, the local population avoids the city like the plague during the Festival and Hogmanay, they're there for the tourists.

Everyone in Edinburgh is not the same. "They" dont all "milk the tourists", tourists have very little to do with their lives. Most just want to get on with their office or other non tourist related jobs, without hellish issues caused by crowding and infrastructure that just cannot cope.

20 years ago the level of tourism was fine, but it has exploded to the point it is now very unpleasant.

grievinggirlneedsadvice · 29/05/2023 22:29

Gingerwright · 29/05/2023 19:23

Can't speak for Cornwall, but I'm from an unfortunately pretty place in the Scottish Highlands. Regrettably, tourists do need to be told how to behave. Normal decent people must turn into selfish careless horrors while o. holiday!
Just this week I would have liked to tell tourists not to kill me with their cars, urinate against the wall of the local shop whilst 50feet from the public toilets, park on the pavement, park horizontally across the main A road (blocking both directions for ten minutes), etc etc. I could go on.
The tourists we used to get here were nice and I liked them, but something has gone very wrong with the attitude of a good number of them in the last few years. I sympathize with the Cornish.

Absolutely agree with this.
Also in a pretty part of the Highlands, this week found a bucket with used sanitary towels down my lane, litter everywhere and a person in a camper making rude gestures on the road to a local who was just driving on the road sensibly, plus sat in traffic for hours on end trying to get to a drs appt.
Tourists can be incredibly insensitive and rude, forgetting people actually live here year round and deal with them day in and day out literally defecating and urinating on their home.

Bk1000 · 29/05/2023 22:30

I live in a Scottish tourist trap and would say that people need to be continually reminded not to behave like arseholes when they are on holiday. For some reason tourists here are unable to comprehend that there are literally thousands and thousands of them passing though an area where the infrastructure was designed for a few hundred people and some sheep. As well as the stupid fuckery with giant motor homes and bloody cycle tours on the roads there is just general selfishness with things like lighting fires on the ground, using bushes as toilets, or emptying motor home rubbish into public bins. If one person is doing those things it’s a minor issue but when thousands and thousands of people are doing it it causes huge and disgusting problems for the people that live here.

I have no issue whatsoever with anyone who hires a motor home, drives it considerately and them pays to stay at a campsite so they can dispose of all their waste but would quite happily see the the roadside ‘wild campers’ banished forever!

grievinggirlneedsadvice · 29/05/2023 22:32

Also should say we got tourists before COVID but it was actually pleasant, but since summer 2021 it's been ramping up to abnormal levels of people just being disgusting- leaving bags of human poo where they've been camping overnight and being rude and obnoxious to locals.

peachespeachespeaches · 29/05/2023 22:33

I mean, how many people in Penzance understand the London Congestion charge or the ULEZ rules?

Plenty. And those who don't could I imagine, use google.

Tide times are also available on Google. What is not, is basic pissing common sense.

NatashaDancing · 29/05/2023 22:35

Florenz · 29/05/2023 22:12

Londoners cause most of the problems in this country. Especially when they go elsewhere and behave in an entitled manner.

What a ridiculous comment.

1dayatatime · 29/05/2023 22:36

Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:21

1dayatatime - 38% is not insignificant

You are absolutely right but the point I was trying to make is that the Cornish economy wouldn't be as hard hit as the GDP (20%) figures or many posters would suggest given that a large proportion of "tourism assets" are owned outside of Cornwall, so the money simply flows out.

Ugzbugz · 29/05/2023 22:39

People in the UK just cannot behave when the sun comes out. Simple as that really.

NatashaDancing · 29/05/2023 22:41

Twanky · 29/05/2023 22:02

Edinburgh has so many events all through the year to milk the tourists, they can hardly complain that they come, it's a regular money spinner, the local population avoids the city like the plague during the Festival and Hogmanay, they're there for the tourists.

I live and work in central Edinburgh. I don't complain about tourists. Edinburgh in August is amazing. I've no problem with tourists.

Sigmama · 29/05/2023 22:42

Peaches, and plenty of tourists know how to google and read a tide timetable

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