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To spread awareness of the toxicity of plastic grass?

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DataNotLore · 28/05/2023 16:46

Here: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35948114/#:~:text=Numerous%20studies%20have%20shown%20that,%2C%20mutagens%2C%20and%20endocrine%20disruptors.

Not only is it bad for the environment but it's probably bad for your health too.

The issues are still being investigated, but:

"Numerous studies have shown that chemicals identified in artificial turf, including polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), phthalates, and per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS), are known carcinogens, neurotoxicants, mutagens, and endocrine disruptors."

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TinyTopknot · 29/05/2023 12:22

Irritateandunreasonable · 29/05/2023 12:18

🤣🤣

Delighted to have amused you. 🙄

TinyTopknot · 29/05/2023 12:24

I took mine down to bare earth and scattered seeds. Tbf the wildflowers did not do massively well but I had some lovely grasses. Our soil is quite rich and not poor enough for the wildflowers.

Sandybabey · 29/05/2023 12:24

People are so unbelievably selfish and stupid. It makes me sad that children won't be able to play on grass in summer, I used to love sitting outside picking daisies and buttercups and seeing all the insects. Also the smell of cut grass is one of the best things about summer.
But yeah 'no fucks given'.

Simianwalk · 29/05/2023 12:27

Juiceboxxy · 28/05/2023 17:28

This!!!
I don't have the time to do what needs to be done and I need the garden useable for the children to play in.

But you're happy for your children to be exposed to potentially carcinogenic chemicals. Just because you don't want to have a scruffy garden or can't be arsed to mow a lawn.
Mental.

faffadoodledo · 29/05/2023 12:30

TinyTopknot · 29/05/2023 12:24

I took mine down to bare earth and scattered seeds. Tbf the wildflowers did not do massively well but I had some lovely grasses. Our soil is quite rich and not poor enough for the wildflowers.

A wildflower meadow is in fact mostly native grass. Or ought to be, punctuated by the flowers. A wild meadow mix is probably 90 per cent grass or more. So it sounds like yours is in fact bang on x

TinyTopknot · 29/05/2023 12:30

Sandybabey · 29/05/2023 12:24

People are so unbelievably selfish and stupid. It makes me sad that children won't be able to play on grass in summer, I used to love sitting outside picking daisies and buttercups and seeing all the insects. Also the smell of cut grass is one of the best things about summer.
But yeah 'no fucks given'.

Yes it's bloody dreadful. Can but hope that with people like Monty Don speaking out that change will come.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/monty-don-plastic-grass-is-an-aberration-if-i-were-king-i-would-outlaw-it-jgqmczkl0

Monty Don: ‘Plastic grass is an aberration. If I were king, I would outlaw it’

Gardens are all about mankind’s relationship with nature — so it’s no to artificial plants and tangles of twigs and weeds, Monty Don tells Alice Thomson

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/monty-don-plastic-grass-is-an-aberration-if-i-were-king-i-would-outlaw-it-jgqmczkl0

TinyTopknot · 29/05/2023 12:31

faffadoodledo · 29/05/2023 12:30

A wildflower meadow is in fact mostly native grass. Or ought to be, punctuated by the flowers. A wild meadow mix is probably 90 per cent grass or more. So it sounds like yours is in fact bang on x

Very happy to know this, thank you!

chupachucks · 29/05/2023 12:38

For those that are interested in growing wild gardens and meadows and those that would like to educate yourselfs and children about our amazing species of fauna and flora Inc (grasses, flowers, insects) the Field studies fold out guides are superb for taking your kids out and identifying all the species of fauna and flora.

They also run alot of beginner courses quite cheap to lear how to identify both plants and animals.

https://www.field-studies-council.org/product-category/publications/?fwp_publication_type=fold-out-guide

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DreamCatcherTheThird · 29/05/2023 12:41

BriarHare · 29/05/2023 12:06

Plastic grass is so hideous, I can’t fathom how anyone can think it looks ok. It’s just tasteless and embarrassing.

It can’t be recycled, will pollute the ground for decades or more and kills everything beneath it. I can’t wait for it to be banned.

Wrong, mine is 100% recyclable and made from 80% recycled materials.

It works for me. As for chemicals, the chemicals listed in the article the op posted are found everywhere in modern life. Google them.

It has become a hobby horse. Fabric conditioner does far more harm worldwide but everyone accepts that non essential to life product.

Sandybabey · 29/05/2023 12:43

Anything plastic that mimics nature is hideous tbh. I've seen them in front gardens in me and they look like the green baize on snooker tables. So tacky.

Sandybabey · 29/05/2023 12:44

Gravel gardens would be better for small areas where grass can't grow.

Sandybabey · 29/05/2023 12:44

Near me should say.

chupachucks · 29/05/2023 12:45

DreamCatcherTheThird · 29/05/2023 12:41

Wrong, mine is 100% recyclable and made from 80% recycled materials.

It works for me. As for chemicals, the chemicals listed in the article the op posted are found everywhere in modern life. Google them.

It has become a hobby horse. Fabric conditioner does far more harm worldwide but everyone accepts that non essential to life product.

It may be recyclable but it's certainly not biodegradable. Two different things and it's still leaching microplastics into the environment and water table. So it's got zero good qualities about it.

Sandybabey · 29/05/2023 12:48

@DreamCatcherTheThird Also it doesn't absorb carbon, insects can't live in it, it can cause flooding. Just can't see the bigger picture can you.

TheHandmaiden · 29/05/2023 12:53

No serious gardener, or garden has plastic grass in it. There are campaigns against it by the RHS, Society of Garden designers, which has effectively banned it. Some discussion of people who have being taxed more due to having it. The government is considering banning its use in new developments.

You won't find a single reputable designer or gardener who agrees with it. It's an extension of the building trade.

verdantverdure · 29/05/2023 12:57

Plastic grass is really tacky and stupid and honestly I would judge anybody who has it.

I can't think of one good reason somebody would choose it.

towrag · 29/05/2023 13:01

I am just about to order fake grass for my mess of a garden. I have health problems and cannot garden at all, I have no choice in this house as its a housing association, I wanted one with no garden but there are none. The fake grass looks nice and neat and no maintenance. I do not want to attract insects, hate the little buzzing stinging bastards.

Judge away😁

Thatladdo · 29/05/2023 13:03

Its the horticultural equivalent of glitter wallpaper garnished with "Live Laugh Love"
Im suprised they dont do it in Burberry.

Nat6999 · 29/05/2023 13:04

I'm disabled & use a wheelchair, when I get a house with a garden I have two choices, cover it in concrete fake stone paving like I did at my old house or have artificial grass put down, both so I can use my wheelchair in the garden. If I own a garden I want to be able to use it. I bet all the moaners have UPVC windows & fake wood blinds that are actually plastic, both that will eventually go to landfill.

HeckyPeck · 29/05/2023 13:05

stbrandonsboat · 29/05/2023 12:22

A question for the meadow people.

Do you leave the grass to grow then add in wildflower seeds or do you have to dig little holes for the seeds?

Is it too late to start doing this now?

When do you cut the grass as presumably everything will die off at the end of the year?

I have a somewhat uninspiring front lawn which I would like to do this with. I tried a patch last year where I didn't cut it and lots of little flowers came up and the grasses did look nice. I trimmed everything back down to ground level in the autumn.

I have a wildflower meadow and my number 1 tip would be to plant yellow rattle. It restricts the grass growth and makes it easier for other flowers to compete with grass.

The best way I found to get it is to buy seeds, put in biodegradable plug pots in the autumn and leave outside over the winter. Then you just need to pop them in the lawn in the spring.

The bees love them too!

TinyTopknot · 29/05/2023 13:05

towrag · 29/05/2023 13:01

I am just about to order fake grass for my mess of a garden. I have health problems and cannot garden at all, I have no choice in this house as its a housing association, I wanted one with no garden but there are none. The fake grass looks nice and neat and no maintenance. I do not want to attract insects, hate the little buzzing stinging bastards.

Judge away😁

What about a gravel garden planted up? Pavers with little plants in the cracks? You have other options.

Plastic grass does not look 'nice and neat' - it looks hideous - and as for celebrating that you will have no insects in your garden, no fucking words for that at all.

When did people start to hate mother nature so much? 😪

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 29/05/2023 13:07

Sandybabey · 29/05/2023 12:48

@DreamCatcherTheThird Also it doesn't absorb carbon, insects can't live in it, it can cause flooding. Just can't see the bigger picture can you.

How can it cause flooding? If laid correctly it has a proper base that rain water drains through. If I had concrete it wouldn't drain the water as well as my artificial grass.

HeckyPeck · 29/05/2023 13:08

towrag · 29/05/2023 13:01

I am just about to order fake grass for my mess of a garden. I have health problems and cannot garden at all, I have no choice in this house as its a housing association, I wanted one with no garden but there are none. The fake grass looks nice and neat and no maintenance. I do not want to attract insects, hate the little buzzing stinging bastards.

Judge away😁

Do you really want toxins leeching out when you already have health problems though?

Paving would be much safer.

mumofteenss · 29/05/2023 13:09

I live in a council property with no garden, but have a 15'x18' concreted area to the front. Its fenced off and not on a public footpath and not over looked. I was planning to put the artificial grass down to make it look nice and turn it into a useable space, and add pots for plants and flowers around the edge. My property isnt ground level, ripping up the concrete is not an option.

What are the alternatives? The big concreted area even with pots is not nice to look at, i want a nice area to sit in in summer?

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