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Schofield saga-to think this is all very odd?

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Howwindyisittoday · 28/05/2023 16:39

It’s very confusing.
Rumours have been circulating for three years, even I knew the rumours, how on earth did Holly and others not?
He says there was no injunction, so the boy could have spoken out at any time..so why is it all coming out now?? Why has Holly suddenly distanced herself, why have itv got rid of him now?
They've now said the boy was 15 when they met (sure was younger?) and nothing happened until he was older, nothing illegal but still massively wrong. But if there is nothing illegal and they all knew about it…why now?
Why has P.S been so willing to go along with it this week?

This feels like a cover up for something much much worse?

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Dita73 · 28/05/2023 21:44

There was never an injunction but the boy/man signed an NDA. However this expires in July and it’s thought that he will tell everything

Flunkey · 28/05/2023 21:52

Also, the age of consent is 16. The alleged person was an adult at 18. Legally, ITV have no right to tell their exployees who they can have sex with. It's called a private life and it's a human right.

If you are disgusted by it then that is your moral judgement. However, ITV were in the difficult position. They can't sack someone on rumour and moral judgement.

We don't know if PS has groomed him. It has hallmarks of it, but we don't truely know so we are speculating.

I think more will come out.

Is a relationship between a 58 year old and 18 year old wierd? I think so, it makes me feel very uncomfortable. But is it illegal, No. What matters really is how the young man involved feels and PS's wife. It is primarily their business, not ours to judge without evidence and facts.

Chispazo · 28/05/2023 21:53

Yeh I hope MM (found his name with a quick google) tells his story. The people crying ''what do you want, he's lost his career'' should save their breath to cool their porridge. He's in his sixties, he's had a long successful career, he won't be short of money. It's hardly heart breaking that he's ''lost his career'' when younger people have retired, or made plans to retire.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/05/2023 21:56

Dita73 · 28/05/2023 21:44

There was never an injunction but the boy/man signed an NDA. However this expires in July and it’s thought that he will tell everything

I hope he protects himself whatever he decides to do, whether that is to disappear into obscurity or spill to hopefully cause a massive shake up.

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 21:59

I learned how some PR works.

I received an advert on Instagram for a PR woman a while back and decided to follow the account.

I have no interest in becoming an influencer. I was intrigued to learn how they manipulate us.

Holly, Stacey etc will show their face with her hands moving on Instagram, they will have a narrative and story.

it will be an interesting exercise for you so I suggest you watch them be manipulated by PR try to manipulate you. You don't have to follow them, the ring on their photo will show when they post a story.

OCarumba · 28/05/2023 21:59

Chispazo · 28/05/2023 21:53

Yeh I hope MM (found his name with a quick google) tells his story. The people crying ''what do you want, he's lost his career'' should save their breath to cool their porridge. He's in his sixties, he's had a long successful career, he won't be short of money. It's hardly heart breaking that he's ''lost his career'' when younger people have retired, or made plans to retire.

Well yes what’s sadder is the effect PS had on the younger man’s career – we’ve heard that once the ‘relationship’ cooled, PS pulled strings to have the guy managed out or sacked. I.e. disposed of once this became expedient for PS.

Howwindyisittoday · 28/05/2023 22:03

@GoOnHoliday What do you mean about hands moving?

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SequinsandStilettos · 28/05/2023 22:11

House!

Schofield saga-to think this is all very odd?
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GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 22:22

SequinsandStilettos · 28/05/2023 22:11

House!

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Twanky · 28/05/2023 22:30

almostoverthehill · 28/05/2023 16:40

FFS not another thread 🤦🏻‍♀️

I really don't see why this man's actions are taking up so much space everywhere, it's getting very tedious. His career's over for whatever reasons, let that be an end to it. At the moment t seems that all and sundrt are popping up from the woodwork to pun in their politically correct two penn'orth.

OCarumba · 28/05/2023 22:32

Twanky · 28/05/2023 22:30

I really don't see why this man's actions are taking up so much space everywhere, it's getting very tedious. His career's over for whatever reasons, let that be an end to it. At the moment t seems that all and sundrt are popping up from the woodwork to pun in their politically correct two penn'orth.

Well including you?

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2023 22:41

There is a timeline of events website circulating on a gossip site. This dates back to 2021. So not this week.

I'm not going to go into further details cos I can't verify this. Nor am I going to link to it, because it has The Runner's name on it. The details on it, if true, make it hard to argue grooming wasn't going on. At best, Schofield is exceptionally stupid and goes against any safeguarding training I've seen that would cover being a patron of an organisation which involves kids.

The Media are dropping heavy hints that are consistent with the content of the website.

The newspapers have reported that Schofield hired PR disaster specialists and had them on retainer for £30k a week. Thats a lot of money to clear up a PR mess. They are making A BIG POINT OF THIS. They would normally stress this to make a point of how far Schofield was going to cover his tracks, which always begs the question of 'why?'

(Hey wouldn't you start by cleaning up your social media if you were in disaster limitation??).

Indeed, Schofield's twitter profile is interesting in its own right. It reads: I don’t tweet anymore or check my @‘s sorry. thanks for all the fun originally though xx

His last tweet was December 2021. Prior to that he was a frequent tweeter. Then he just stops. Dead. Its strange.

You can bet that the newspapers have already seen this website and will be looking into this info and trying to verify it. They won't be saying more at this stage until they've got more.

Tonight the Mail are claiming that The Runner says he wasn't asked if he had a relationship with Schofield by ITV bosses. ITV have doubled down and said he was in response.

The question remains - why was The Runner moved to Loose Women in the way he was if there wasn't a cover up? This would have to be agreed to by ITV bosses. Probably ITV Daytime Boss Emma Gormley (to whom we know numerous people complained to and then ended up managed out).

So the story is going in two directions now. What happened and when and was there an ITV cover up? The media are going to keep running the story to turn up the pressure, because it looks like there's questions to be answered.

Also remember:
Schofield wasn't in his mid twenties. He was in his late 40s.
And in a position of authority over the kid.

Thats a double whammy.

Its not a 16 year old meeting a powerful 29 year old - in this scenario there isn't a responsibility of the adult over the minor (if the 29 year old was a mentor this changes as duty of care obligations kick in).

Social media is also suggesting that The Runner quit his job two weeks ago when this started to blow up (quite possibly he started getting harassed by the media). If true that begs some financial questions. That NDA time limit looks interesting.

To say this doesn't matter or its a witch hunt is concerning. And I do wonder where that alledged £30k a week is going...

Rowthe · 28/05/2023 22:42

SequinsandStilettos · 28/05/2023 22:11

House!

You should add on.

Oh no, not another thread about this!

ReunitedThorns · 28/05/2023 22:44

I'm seeing stories that this may not have been the first young male This Morning employee moved over to Loose Women.

This is looking more like a Weinstein type scandal.

The men in question were over 18 (and it is illegal if under 18, not 16, when in a position of power). It is the abuse of power over people's careers that is the scandal here.

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2023 22:49

ReunitedThorns · 28/05/2023 22:44

I'm seeing stories that this may not have been the first young male This Morning employee moved over to Loose Women.

This is looking more like a Weinstein type scandal.

The men in question were over 18 (and it is illegal if under 18, not 16, when in a position of power). It is the abuse of power over people's careers that is the scandal here.

What's circulating would question this. The date stamps on everything are from several years ago.

Im not prepared to put on here, it's out there and having had a good look at it, I do think there reason to believe there's a genuine concern over the when part.

Mirabai · 28/05/2023 22:50

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2023 22:41

There is a timeline of events website circulating on a gossip site. This dates back to 2021. So not this week.

I'm not going to go into further details cos I can't verify this. Nor am I going to link to it, because it has The Runner's name on it. The details on it, if true, make it hard to argue grooming wasn't going on. At best, Schofield is exceptionally stupid and goes against any safeguarding training I've seen that would cover being a patron of an organisation which involves kids.

The Media are dropping heavy hints that are consistent with the content of the website.

The newspapers have reported that Schofield hired PR disaster specialists and had them on retainer for £30k a week. Thats a lot of money to clear up a PR mess. They are making A BIG POINT OF THIS. They would normally stress this to make a point of how far Schofield was going to cover his tracks, which always begs the question of 'why?'

(Hey wouldn't you start by cleaning up your social media if you were in disaster limitation??).

Indeed, Schofield's twitter profile is interesting in its own right. It reads: I don’t tweet anymore or check my @‘s sorry. thanks for all the fun originally though xx

His last tweet was December 2021. Prior to that he was a frequent tweeter. Then he just stops. Dead. Its strange.

You can bet that the newspapers have already seen this website and will be looking into this info and trying to verify it. They won't be saying more at this stage until they've got more.

Tonight the Mail are claiming that The Runner says he wasn't asked if he had a relationship with Schofield by ITV bosses. ITV have doubled down and said he was in response.

The question remains - why was The Runner moved to Loose Women in the way he was if there wasn't a cover up? This would have to be agreed to by ITV bosses. Probably ITV Daytime Boss Emma Gormley (to whom we know numerous people complained to and then ended up managed out).

So the story is going in two directions now. What happened and when and was there an ITV cover up? The media are going to keep running the story to turn up the pressure, because it looks like there's questions to be answered.

Also remember:
Schofield wasn't in his mid twenties. He was in his late 40s.
And in a position of authority over the kid.

Thats a double whammy.

Its not a 16 year old meeting a powerful 29 year old - in this scenario there isn't a responsibility of the adult over the minor (if the 29 year old was a mentor this changes as duty of care obligations kick in).

Social media is also suggesting that The Runner quit his job two weeks ago when this started to blow up (quite possibly he started getting harassed by the media). If true that begs some financial questions. That NDA time limit looks interesting.

To say this doesn't matter or its a witch hunt is concerning. And I do wonder where that alledged £30k a week is going...

Does it cover Mishcon de Reya involvement? I heard PS instructed Mishcon to act for the runner, but he was fed up of lying about their relationship..

SequinsandStilettos · 28/05/2023 22:52

You should add on.
Oh no, not another thread about this!

That's what I meant by Thread Police

They annoy the hell out of me - if you don't want to read a thread, don't click on it. Easy.

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2023 23:01

To cover for the runner? Or is it about Schofield's privacy?

Why lawyer up on the runner's behalf? Why does he need a lawyer?

Lawyering up, risks the Streisand effect too.

I really feel for the guy. This isn't going to go away. But unfortunately it is an important story because it's about abuse of power in television and the history on that isn't clever in this country or in the US.

Unfortunately it becomes bigger than the individuals concerned.

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 23:03

Hopefully mums will be reading, not posting and wiseing up, lessons learned and all that.

Mirabai · 28/05/2023 23:08

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2023 23:01

To cover for the runner? Or is it about Schofield's privacy?

Why lawyer up on the runner's behalf? Why does he need a lawyer?

Lawyering up, risks the Streisand effect too.

I really feel for the guy. This isn't going to go away. But unfortunately it is an important story because it's about abuse of power in television and the history on that isn't clever in this country or in the US.

Unfortunately it becomes bigger than the individuals concerned.

By the sounds of it was to nominally to “protect” the runner by acting on his behalf, but equally to shut him up. But the runner told the lawyers he was fed up of lying about the relationship.

Sainte · 28/05/2023 23:09

Is drug testing ever done before broadcasting?

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2023 23:17

Mirabai · 28/05/2023 23:08

By the sounds of it was to nominally to “protect” the runner by acting on his behalf, but equally to shut him up. But the runner told the lawyers he was fed up of lying about the relationship.

And that would be in line with rumours of a NDA... The media are definitely doing that thing where they so much, and suggest more without actually saying it.

I always say, when looking at a news story, look for whats NOT said as much as what IS said.

When the likes of the Mail start stressing certain parts heavily, thats where to look.

I don't know if he will talk soon. But I do think he will eventually talk. If only to get things off his back once and for all.

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 28/05/2023 23:17

What is a 'runner' in this context? (sorry to be a bit thick)

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 23:19

You know who worked in TM and had a hard time was a makeup artist Lisa , she was married to Ant so will have known how all that PR works too. She may be living her best life and I wish her well as possibly that pr team gave her a hard tim e sending paps on bin day to catch her in her nightware, it could just have been a rogue pap.