Holly willoboughly

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Ok I know I've spelt her surname wrong... but here we are. We all know who I'm talking about!

I just don't understand why social media has turned on her, almost blaiming her for allowing Phillip S antics to go on?

Why is she responsible for his actions????

And for those saying "she must've known"... maybe she didn't! Maybe she kept out of it or maybe she didn't know the full one and puts.
Why so she being Blaine's. Am I missing something??!

There's plenty of old rich men in Hollywood having younger girlfriends with a similar or even bigger age gap. No one seems to demand that these actors' female co-stars risk their careers to denounce this.

The runner was of legal age when the sexual relationship started. It's really not on to expect HW or anyone else to denounce something that isn't actually illegal.

I’m no fan if HW but she is not responsible for policing his actions in any way shape or form.

Why spell her surname wrongly, OP, if you think she’s such a saint? Maybe we don’t understand that? Hmmm?

Looking the other way or having other priorities that are more important, are exactly the conditions that allowed Saville to do what he did.
We were supposed to have moved on from that. The media were supposed to have moved on from that.
At least when everything with Saville came out, people were shocked.
Now posters are pretending it's not just fine but positively admirable to put your personal finances above everything else. That means hypothetically if a perpetrator denies something and their victim is also pressured to deny it, everyone can just pretend they can't see what's right in front of them. Ffs. Thank God there are lots of people in the real world with better morals than certain MN posters and than the ITV management too.

If everyone was aware, including everyone on this thread, that PS was grooming, why weren't they reporting it to the police?

Dan Wooton tried to pull this shite, said there was no injunction, said he told ITV and they did nothing and now he is bleating that he KNEW and nothing was done.

If HW is expected to fall on her sword for doing nothing, shouldn't everyone who knew so much, including those on this thread, do the same?

This. Don't get it. Who gives a shit ?

Comparing men who like young adults with paedophiles who prey on underage children is disgusting and deeply offensive to those of us who, like me, have survived childhood sexual assault and had consensual sex in young adulthood. I know what childhood molestation is and I know what consensual sex is. Do not pretend that the two are the same.

If it was the other way around, people would never blame a man for his female colleague's wrongdoing. They would feel sorry for him having to work with her. This blame-the-woman urge that some people have is ridiculous.

I think what Jimmy Savile did was a LOT worse than what Philip Schofield has done. Not even comparable in fact. There's a lot of people who know colleagues who are having affairs but keep quiet, hopefully there's not a lot of people who know colleagues are having sex with young children (and corpses) and keep quiet about it.

I do not think anyone is blaming HW for PS- rather questioning how she turned a blind eye until the point she knew her career and reputation was on the line. I have no idea why ITV felt the need to protect these 2 talentless and rather vapid individuals- apparently the 'golden couple'. It is quite interesting that the then, quite young, inexperienced and mainly unimpressive HW was championed by PS to replace Fern Britton when she left.

Even as someone who has not really watched TM since Fern and John Leslie, and before that Richard and Judy, it is clear from bits on Googlebox and all the media hype, that for some reason ITV have been glorifying this untalented pair whilst dumbing down TM to such a level it is a massive insult to those who for whatever reason watch daytime TV. Social media clips of PS interviewing politicians and the opposition are absolutely cringeworthy- HW just simpers in the background. Whilst TM was always a bit of a joke, it was never the show it became under PS.

Rumours about PS and HW have been rife for years (even without his grooming of the young runner). They are both apparently unpleasant, hard to work with and have very inflated ideas above their station life. Not met them so hard to say, however when this has been the narrative for so many years from so many sources, I am inclined to believe it. Holly presented the image that they were great friends until very recently - this is very much damage limitation on her part. It is also very interesting that PS is said to have had such a strong influence over who presents alongside him. As much as I dislike Amanda Holden, she would have been no pushover. Then there is the way Fern Britton left. Yes it is hearsay but things accumulate over (20) years...

It was kind of grooming, the boy was 14 when they met or something like that.

I mean, I can hardly believe what I'm seeing but if this pic is real it's kind of shocking that the boy was so young when they met and Phil set him up in/followed him in his career.

If someone did this with a 14 year old girl, displayed this much interest, people would be skeeved out by it too.

I wouldn't work alongside a paedophile, or even someone busy grooming children but waiting till they were 18 to shag them.
Obviously Holly knew what he was doing. Ruth knew and challenged it. Good for her. Holly didn't, which reflects very badly on her.
We are all obliged to take a stand against this sort of thing. The fact that Holly is more to blame than a random camera person who also knew is because of the power she holds. With more power comes more responsibility

It's very dodgy, morally wrong, borderline illegal but not in the same hemisphere to what Savile did. Entertainment and the media are full of narcissists, perverts and predators. Anyone who gets anywhere in that world has to be prepared to turn a blind eye a lot of things.

Eamonn Holmes decent? Well I guess if you like very right wing presents then maybe.

He met his young lover when he was a child - groomed him

I agree that it feels skeevy. But PS waited until the runner turned 18 and was legally competent to consent, whereas a paedophile doesn't wait. That minimum level of decency is something that Saville did not extend to his victims, which is why I object to PS being compared to Saville.

It's not about people blaming her for his actions, but about keeping quiet when it suited her.
She was happy to be Phil's friend when he got her the job and opened doors for her.
He's gone through quegate, his brother's trial, coming out as gay, end of his marriage/moving out, loses his job and that's when Holly decides to cut him loose to save her own skin.
If she was so concerned about her image, she would have left ages ago. But it suited her to be half of the golden couple.
She's suddenly friends with Alison as it fits her agenda and knows she'll make her look good as Alison isn't experienced.
Look what she did to Peter Jones and Fern Cotton.
Holly only cares about Holly and people who can help her rise up.
What Phil has done is morally wrong but talk about kicking a friend when they're down.

I don't think she's ever been particularly popular - personally i've always found her bland/superficial.
Being Schofield's TV wife and his best friend has been her (almost entire) shtick. She's inextricably (by very deliberate choice) linked with him. Thus it seems very few believe that she had NO idea, not even an inkling, about her brother from another mother/BFF/ride or die's true character.

@LaffTaff - I think you've nailed it.

Being PS's female alter-ego has pretty much been the USP that HW was perpetuated.

They traded on their friendship - their families went on holiday together FFS!

@Treesandsheepeverywhere

What did HW do to Fern Cotton and Peter Jones?

As a CP social worker, the 'maybe grooming' comments are at best naive. The power imbalance and vulnerability of this young person is clear exploitation. Yes it has been happening for generations but we are more enlightened now and it needs to be called out. Just because it is a celebrity using his 'stardom' and promises contacts to get into the business does not make it okay. It is comparable to those praying on the most vulnerable children in care or chaotic families exploiting there vulnerability and need for something better for their own gains. Of course HW knew, the whole internet has known for years.

She is awful and needs to go. She 100% knew hence the veiled statement from PS last week. Who knows maybe she even condoned it to a degree - being happy about them

Anyway her persona is all an act. After filming celeb juice the smile vanishes and she storms off stage. Rest of the cast dance and joke around and interact with the audience.

The problem is with all of this is that it happened after Savile, Weinstein etc. TV companies if they find any whiff of it should clamp down on it immediately, the fact that they didn't shows that it can and still does happen today.

If this is what he is willing to admit, what is he not willing to admit?

I don't know why this is being reported on as if it's proper news. Particularly it on the BBC website as a "breaking news" update. It's celebrity gossip.