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AIBU?

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Anyone around to pull me through the next hour?

109 replies

Oak99 · 27/05/2023 13:40

Just dropped my 4 year old off at contact centre to see his dad for the second time (first was 2 weeks ago). Lots of domestic violence and courts prevented contact for 4 years due to this. They've now decided contact in a contact centre is OK.

His dad was told to turn up 15 minutes early, which he did. He was then to wait in the room until I dropped son off 15 mins later. This is to prevent us coming into contact. He has told them he needed to nip back to the car and will be back. He's then proceeded to wait in his car for 10 mins until I walked round the corner, got out of the car when he's seen me and gone straight into the contact centre with our son. He looked at him and said 'come on then'. I didn't get to say goodbye and was just left stood outside not knowing what the hell just happened.

Staff came out a couple of minutes later and apologised.

He's trying to intimidate me. This is all going to go wrong. My son is now in the centre without having had a goodbye from his mum. He looked awkward when he went in.

I feel awful that I put my own emotional safety above a goodbye. But I froze and just watched them walk in.

I'm now sat in a park feeling sick.

Is anyone willing to chat this through with me? Am I being dramatic? I don't even know anymore.

OP posts:
CuriousMama · 28/05/2023 10:28

@Oak99 that's disgusting. I'd be taking this further. Please don't give up.

HappyasLarrynot · 28/05/2023 10:36

@katmarie has said it exactly as I would have.

The contact centre have fcuked up and are covering their own backs. Get it all down on paper/email and sent it to whoever needs to know. Don’t let them convince you not to do this - do it now if you haven’t already. X

TickingKey46 · 28/05/2023 12:38

It's very early days. It's only the second time in the contact centre. You really need to play the long game!
It's clear he has a different agenda, write a note in your diary of the incident.
Honestly give him enough rope and he will hang himself.
He won't be able to keep the pretence up!
As I've said my kids saw their father in a contact centre and he did something similar.
Hold your nerve and keep on going. If your very scared maybe make different arrangements with the contact centre. I had to do this as my ex husband was saying he may not turn up, but wouldn't confirm either way! I informed the contact centre manager and we had an agreement she would contact me if he turned up.

McKenzieFriend001 · 28/05/2023 12:40

Oak99 · 28/05/2023 08:59

The contact centre are now saying that because they didn't give us the times we are meant to arrive in writing they can't note it as Intimidation and will put it down as a mistake. I honestly give up.

How is this contact arrangement written in the CAO?

Lizzt2007 · 28/05/2023 13:05

McKenzieFriend001 · 28/05/2023 08:18

@Lizzt2007 - because it sounds like OP has already been to court and there's a child arrangements order in place.

You cannot simply just decide one day that you're going to stop contact because of one incident like this (obviously there are far more serious safeguarding incidents by which you would absolutely need to and have reason to stop contact immediately, but this isn't one of them). Court doesn't work like that. If OP doesn't "make her child available" on court ordered dates she could be held in contempt. A pattern of behaviour needs to be evidenced, and the contact centre needs to provide reports.

She can't stop contact but she doesn't have to be the one taking her son to the contact centre.

McKenzieFriend001 · 28/05/2023 14:15

@Lizzt2007 if there were a third party available to do handover CAFCASS would have suggested this as an option, particularly considering they didn't allow contact for four years prior.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/05/2023 17:38

@Oak99

Well, that sucks! I'd suggest that for 'next time' you make sure that the Contact Centre does specify arrival times beforehand, and notify both of you, preferably in writing.

It wasn't supervised visits, but my BFF's exH was so nasty that their (US) divorce agreement specified that handovers were to be in the lobby of the police station. He had to arrive 15 minutes beforehand, and had to wait 15 minutes after she left the building before he exited. Pretty severe, but nothing else worked. Not even having friends accompany her or handovers in public places.

Blue444 · 28/05/2023 17:51

You have this thread and us as witnesses this time. As others have said. Document it all.

Fraaahnces · 29/05/2023 07:38

I’d be asking for camera footage ASAP!

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