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How is this even allowed (no toilets)

333 replies

girlfriend44 · 25/05/2023 22:21

A charity have a sporting session every week in a park but there are no toilets?
How's that even allowed ?
Anyone else think it's awful?
I've heard people say go behind a Bush, that's not nice or practical.

Shouldn't have too anyway, they should find a venue, where they have toilets and changing facilities?
Would you attend?

OP posts:
Spiderboy · 25/05/2023 23:36

girlfriend44 · 25/05/2023 23:21

Exactly my point, the activity should be held at the leisure centre.

Then find a leisure centre that holds a similar activity, set one up yourself, or quit!

Batalax · 25/05/2023 23:36

Is this a reverse?

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/05/2023 23:36

We called it a "Farmer's Wee" when the kids where young and would rather I drove 5 miles with them leaking in the car than piss in a hedge. I asked what they thought a farmer did when he or she was in the middle of a field ploughing or harvesting or whatever, a mile from home. I would agree to drive them but that we werent coming back. They all got on board with the FW!

Either the mystery sport is important enough that you will endure a Famer's Wee, or not. Your choice.

porridgeisbae · 25/05/2023 23:37

They can't magic into existence loos that aren't at the park (unless you expect them to bring their own portaloos, which just is not going to happen except for a large event maybe.)

There are a lot of park runs and I think a fair few of them don't have loos.

girlfriend44 · 25/05/2023 23:38

CosmicVaginaBiscuit · 25/05/2023 23:25

Our parkrun closed the toilet access 'due to covid' and never reopened the clubhouse.
A lot of venues don't have toilets which is a shame as it's a barrier to exercise and I think disproportionately affects women as it's harder to pee outside, and periods are an added bonus.

I have IBS and toilet anxiety and miss out on many activities because of this. I no longer volunteer at parkrun because that puts me in a position where I can't just leave and go home if I'm desperate for the loo, and that feeds the anxiety.

Can you find out if there are tolilets anywhere near your activity and plan a stop off there if necessary. I appreciate that it's not free but I suppose it comes down to whether it's financially viable from the charity's perspective, even if they can't be wholly inclusive.

There are a few unkind and sarcastic replies here, not everyone is lucky enough to be confident of their continence. I would say OP that for a children's activity the lack of toilets would be worse.

Spot on, and it makes no difference what the sport is, that's why I never said.
Periods of course, nobody mentioned.

Are you less likely to want to go to the toilet then if it's tennis then rather than football. That's why I never said the sport it's not relevant.
Although it's a charity, you do pay for the session.
It's a basic human need to want to go to the toilet.😒

OP posts:
HerMammy · 25/05/2023 23:38

There are very few public toilets anymore and you must be living in a cave if you think parks have toilets here there and everywhere. Unless the activity is hours long can you not go before and after .

Wakeywake · 25/05/2023 23:38

HeddaGarbled · 25/05/2023 23:33

There are no nearby public toilets

I don’t believe you. If it’s a town big enough for a leisure centre, there’ll be toilets, public or supermarket, or both.

Funnily enough, that's the only bit I do believe. I do bootcamp in a park in a major city far away (at least 20min walk) from any facilities. But it hasn't occurred to me not to go because there's no toilet...

mumda · 25/05/2023 23:39

Your local authority will have guidance on whether an event needs toilets.

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OutDamnedSpot · 25/05/2023 23:42

Okay, if you’re not willing to give us the details, we’re just going to assume you’re being unreasonable.

  1. it’s run by a charity. Presumably in a place that if the most appropriate (or cheapest) for them.
  2. it’s optional. If you don’t want to go, don’t.
  3. if you want to do the event at a leisure centre, arrange it yourself at the leisure centre.

It seriously astounds me that people complain about stuff like this. Just don’t bloody go if it doesn’t work for you.

porridgeisbae · 25/05/2023 23:42

I can totally get what you mean OP, it might put me off going IDK. It will be a barrier to some people.

But it's not like other paid activities with loos aren't available (unless this activity is rare.)

WhereTheSuburbsMeetUttoxeter · 25/05/2023 23:43

girlfriend44 · 25/05/2023 23:38

Spot on, and it makes no difference what the sport is, that's why I never said.
Periods of course, nobody mentioned.

Are you less likely to want to go to the toilet then if it's tennis then rather than football. That's why I never said the sport it's not relevant.
Although it's a charity, you do pay for the session.
It's a basic human need to want to go to the toilet.😒

It's a basic human need to NEED the toilet, not to want it.

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/05/2023 23:44

i agree that there are very few public toilets in parks anymore. Locally to me most have been closed because of cottaging and then sexual predators attempting to assault both adults and children in them.

Sad but true. Frankly I would rather take a massive shit behind a bush and wipe my arse with my hand than use them even if they were open.

Lovesacake · 25/05/2023 23:45

You might garner more support Op if you provide more details. If it’s a three hour mandatory session I think people are likely to agree with you. If it’s a 45 minute optional session you might need to reconsider your expectations.

PerryMenno · 25/05/2023 23:47

I can't be the only woman on here (apart from OP) who needs an empty bladder right before running or other vigorous exercise, or it will empty itself?!

I wouldn't be able to participate, and would politely mention why to the organisers just in case it hadn't occurred to them that this issue might be limiting numbers.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 25/05/2023 23:52

PerryMenno · 25/05/2023 23:47

I can't be the only woman on here (apart from OP) who needs an empty bladder right before running or other vigorous exercise, or it will empty itself?!

I wouldn't be able to participate, and would politely mention why to the organisers just in case it hadn't occurred to them that this issue might be limiting numbers.

But don’t you go before you leave for whatever exercise event you’re going to then? How far is it between home and the place where all this mysterious exercise takes place? (That last question was more for the OP even though she will never answer)

BungleandGeorge · 25/05/2023 23:52

Some cafes don’t even have toilets!
it does make a difference how long the activity is and it is slightly different if it’s children because they can’t leave the area on their own to visit the toilet. It may put me off depending on circumstances but it doesn’t appear that they’re doing anything wrong as the activity is optional. If they have staff based there for a prolonged period without any arrangements that’s not acceptable though.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 25/05/2023 23:57

If the event organisers make it clear that they do not provide toilet facilities then it is your choice as a presumably functioning adult to make a decision as to whether you wish to attend the event under those circumstances or not. That is the bottom line. It makes not one blind bit of difference whether it is run by a charity or a profit-making business. It makes not one blind bit of difference that needing to toilet is a human need. There aren't any toilet facilities at that event and you need to take responsibility and make a decision for yourself about whether the event is suitable for you.

ThereIbledit · 25/05/2023 23:57

I think all venues where people expect to spend any time should have toilets. It's pretty ableist to not have them.

PerryMenno · 26/05/2023 00:02

saltinesandcoffeecups · 25/05/2023 23:52

But don’t you go before you leave for whatever exercise event you’re going to then? How far is it between home and the place where all this mysterious exercise takes place? (That last question was more for the OP even though she will never answer)

I said RIGHT before running and I meant it. As a grown woman I do understand my body and its limitations, as I'm sure the OP does too. Stress incontinence combined with the need to keep hydrated for exercise is a tricky balance to manage and if you don't have personal experience with that, lucky you but don't 'cant you just...' at me (or OP) like we're too stupid to have figured that out for ourselves?

PyongyangKipperbang · 26/05/2023 00:04

ThereIbledit · 25/05/2023 23:57

I think all venues where people expect to spend any time should have toilets. It's pretty ableist to not have them.

But it isnt expected, its offered.

If it was work for example, where you wouldnt get paid if you didnt attend, or kids at school for whom it is a mandatory event, yes there should be loos. But for an optional hobby event, if the fact that there are none is made clear, its up to the individual to decide whether the facilities meet their needs and attend or not as they feel appropriate.

And yes, I do have experience of bladder/bowel/personal care issues.

ThereIbledit · 26/05/2023 00:06

There aren't any toilet facilities at that event and you need to take responsibility and make a decision for yourself about whether the event is suitable for you.

You're saying that people like me (heavy periods and a bladder urgency problem) can just be ignored because we can make the informed choice not to go. Many people in the UK have a need to have a toilet within reasonable distance including those of us with bladder issues, bowel issues (Crohn's, IBD, Stoma patients, even coeliacs, etc etc etc, women who have periods (from normal and menhorragic), but you're saying it's fiiiine events organisers should just be able to ignore us if it doesn't suit them

PyongyangKipperbang · 26/05/2023 00:06

I misread. You said "where people expect to spend anytime"

But they can choose to spend said time somewhere that the facilities suit their needs. So again, optional.

Simple fact is that a venue says "these are the facilities, take it or leave it". You cant expect to go there, knowing that they dont have what you need (as the OP does), and then complain.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 26/05/2023 00:07

PerryMenno · 26/05/2023 00:02

I said RIGHT before running and I meant it. As a grown woman I do understand my body and its limitations, as I'm sure the OP does too. Stress incontinence combined with the need to keep hydrated for exercise is a tricky balance to manage and if you don't have personal experience with that, lucky you but don't 'cant you just...' at me (or OP) like we're too stupid to have figured that out for ourselves?

We’ll I’m not sure about you, but the OP hasn’t figured out that if she’s not happy with a paid service she can stop paying/participating and find one that meets her requirements. So no, I’m willing to give the OP a lot credit.

TeenLifeMum · 26/05/2023 00:09

@PerryMenno yes! I used to go to park run (before they moved it 30 minute drive away). I would wee, get in the car and drive 5-10 minutes, park, say hi to friends and then straight for a nervous pre park run wee. I used to get really nervous which 4 years on and a half marathon later seems mad but that first year, every time I needed a wee on arrival. And usually one after too. I’ve had 3 dc but no bladder issues other than nervous pre running in a group wees 😆

i wouldn’t be annoyed if there were no loos but I would choose not to go. Wild wees and sports leggings are not a great combo!