Why aren't parents correcting their DC?

[Meili04]

I just saw the DM article about an 11 year old boy being tasered for brandishing a knife over a tantrum in burger king. The mum said they were too harsh. I've seen this in my DDs school their child is a little angel and can do no wrong. If my child is mean to another child I correct the behaviour , if they rude I do the same.
My DC is a human being with faults and isn't perfect 100 percent of the time, no person is.

Why can some parents see no fault in their child? Our responsibility as parents is to bring up DC to be functioning adults who thrive. Treating DC as mini deities does them no favours. I think parenting is becoming too gentle. AIBU?

Do you think the police are there to be killed? Someone brandishing a knife will always be deemed a risk. The police are there to do a job not be severely injured killed in the line of duty because of precious sons who have never been told no.

Lots of knife crime in parts of the UK. Some people including children appear to think waving a knife around is ok. Where do they get that idea from? Why would an 11 year old immediately go for a knife when police called (by his own mother). All strange.

There is no knife or other sharp weapon that can break the skin enough to go into subcutaneous layers that is 'safe' and could not be considered a threat by Police.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teen-who-stabbed-younger-brother-8735179.amp

Frightened child today, violent man in 5 years time 🤷🏼‍♀️ as for ‘talking to him’, about what? You don’t get a nice chat in return for threatening someone with a knife. Lesson learned.

You seem angry with me, I'm not sure why, but I'll answer anyway. Two separate occasions. I'm a martial artist, I used to be a special and I also used to volunteer with a charity that did outreach work with the homeless. Both incidents happened while doing work for the charity.

That wasn't the point, though, I was just saying that I'm surprised the taser was the first port of call here, that's all.

Being forcibly injected in the buttocks with powerful sedatives is another thing they do. I like that option the most.

Yes, Ayr

Of course I don't 🙄 that's not what I said, is it?

This thread doesn't seem the place for balanced discussion, so I'm out.

She doesn’t seem angry.

Police are not martial artists.

"Frightened" - ffs!! If he was that "frightened", he could have done as he was told and dropped the knife. If his mother had any authority over him, she could have dealt with him herself without involving the police.

If I were her, I'd be hiding in shame, not putting myself out there with a 'compo' face on. Most 11 year olds don't go off on one because they can't have a burger, and most of them don't carry knives either.

The police didn't know what kind of knife he had or indeed if he more than one. They were left with no choice.

Yes but that requires close combat. Tasers are usually used when a weapon is involved to minimise the risk to both the police and the assailant.

What a ridiculous mother. I'd taser my OWN child I'd he dared to behave in such a manner. He wouldn't, because he'd be too bloody afraid of the consequences.

Gentle parenting is bollocks.

Again, I didn't say they were.

I don't want to live in a country where 11 years olds are let off with brandishing knives and i certainly don't want to live in a country where people are stabbed by 11 year old. But hey ho we can't always have what we want, can we

Yep imagine the uproar on mumsnet it's used for blunt weapons but not sharps. Taser is the safer option and clear out the area.

Then why say they should be capable of what you (a martial artist) are?

Just because it looked like a butter knife doesn't mean it hadn't been sharpened. It's not hard to do. FFS my DBs friend sharpened a teaspoon as a practical joke when he was about that age, it was like a bloody razor.

There was no way for the police to know if that was a sharp knife, or a decoy as PP said.

They told him to throw it away repeatedly, they asked him what he was going to do with it, he just swore at them. I can't hear over the bleeping I'd he's being threatening, but he's definitely telling them to keep back. They've got a tazer pointed at him for ages, it's obvious what will happen if he doesn't drop it.

And his DM is in the papers moaning about his tracksuit being ripped?!

Clearly he's a little bastard and she can't control him.

Having a tantrum, and waving a knife around at police because he couldn't get a burger 😬.

Hopefully this incident has taught him a lesson and he'll choose a different path to go down.

I would do the same. Some parents are ridiculous 🙄

Agreed. Don’t forget when wrangling for a knife the boy could’ve stabbed himself. No doubt that would’ve been complaint number 3 from his mum.

👏👏👏I wish ever parent was like you. Our schools would be full of well behaved children instead of the products of the gentle parenting brigade.

That's not gentle parenting though, is it? That neglect dressed up as concern.

How long was he brandishing it for? He'd have to have picked up the knife, make a nuisance of himself, the staff would um and ah, they'd call the police, the police would have to get there, they'd have to assess the situation and then give him instructions to drop the knife. So he must have been messing around with the knife for quite some time.
And if he's so easy to disarm, why didn't the mother do it? Why is that the police are called to sort out problems that parents can't and then parents complain that they shouldn't have done it that way. But then the parents way of just talking doesn't work so what do they expect the police to do?
I don't know if tasering was the way to go but I wasn't out there risking my neck so ill reserve judgement.

Thought the same effectively he's experimenting with carrying a knife that needs looking at

It's more the mother isn't ashamed her child is brandishing a knife over a burger king. She thinks it's perfectly acceptable to cry to the papers, if she doesn't sort out her parenting her son will be spending life in prison or institutions.
I would be begging the MH and criminal justice systems to help my child not crying to the papers.