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gimmeme · 2023-05-14T12:25:34+00:00

My daughter hit her shin on the trampoline metal part really hard. She is screaming saying it burns. Have put ice on it but she's screaming in pain. AIBU to think this is one of those things that will go on their own? You can't break anything by hitting it can you? She can't straighten her leg or move it. She's screaming in agony saying it burns

NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/05/2023 15:53

gimmeme · 14/05/2023 15:47

I'm not refusing 😂 she doesn't want to go to a and e

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Because she doesn't want to move due to the pain?

Biscuitandacuppa · 14/05/2023 15:54

You will have to get her to move off the sofa before the doctor calls you back. If she is settled and comfortable she is of course going to say she is fine. The real test is whether she can walk without pain.

I smashed my ankle falling down the stairs, I broke my tibia in 2 places and shattered my fibula but while laying on the sofa waiting for the ambulance I did manage a cup of tea and a laugh at my stupidity with dd. However if I had tried to move or weight bear I would have been in agony.

JenWillsiam · 14/05/2023 15:57

NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/05/2023 15:45

It might just be a painful bruise - but I have seen a child's shin where it looked similar (and they screamed the place down for about 3 minutes before quietening down) after it 'just hurt' when she was walking on an uneven surface.

She complained of it burning, which set off my 'uh-oh' because I remembered the burning in my finger that was written off as me being overdramatic aged 11 (resulted in a badly healed fracture and tendon contracture because it had been snapped in half), so I insisted that she was taken straight to A&E for x-ray.

Her tibia was very broken.

Not being funny but you cannot walk on a broken tibia. It’s a weight bearing long bone. I broke mine, attempted to put weight on it under first aiders advice and promptly took out my fibula and displaced the break.

JenWillsiam · 14/05/2023 15:58

Biscuitandacuppa · 14/05/2023 15:54

You will have to get her to move off the sofa before the doctor calls you back. If she is settled and comfortable she is of course going to say she is fine. The real test is whether she can walk without pain.

I smashed my ankle falling down the stairs, I broke my tibia in 2 places and shattered my fibula but while laying on the sofa waiting for the ambulance I did manage a cup of tea and a laugh at my stupidity with dd. However if I had tried to move or weight bear I would have been in agony.

Exactly this. Some of the descriptions of broken bones here are so off. An ankle, wrist or whatever is quite different from a bone like the tibia.

JenWillsiam · 14/05/2023 15:59

If it’s the tibia region I wouldn’t be worried re break. That bone isn’t breaking without you knowing about it.

underneaththeash · 14/05/2023 15:59

I wouldn’t go to A&E with that on a Sunday, it’s not deformed and there’s no bone poking through! . It will wait til the morning

JenWillsiam · 14/05/2023 16:00

willingtolearn · 14/05/2023 15:22

There's no major rush to A&E. There is a reason why you can wait for hours with broken bones to be seen - because it's not usually urgent. Yes there are some situations where it is but that's where a bone is sticking out or the foot/hand has lost blood flow.

On the other hand there are quieter and busier are times to go there, but that's very unpredictable.

It gives you time to let her have some painkillers, get over the initial shock of the pain and see how she's moving about.

Do an online 111 if she's over 5. It's much quicker than phoning. It should give you some idea of next steps.

Well that’s not true.

monsteramunch · 14/05/2023 16:02

Biscuitandacuppa · 14/05/2023 15:54

You will have to get her to move off the sofa before the doctor calls you back. If she is settled and comfortable she is of course going to say she is fine. The real test is whether she can walk without pain.

I smashed my ankle falling down the stairs, I broke my tibia in 2 places and shattered my fibula but while laying on the sofa waiting for the ambulance I did manage a cup of tea and a laugh at my stupidity with dd. However if I had tried to move or weight bear I would have been in agony.

Please do take notice of this post OP, you need to be able to tell the doctor what the pain is like when she's not sitting completely still with painkillers as both those things will mask the 'true' symptoms.

ShowUs · 14/05/2023 16:04

You can't break anything by hitting it can you?

How do you think you break a bone?

If you fall off a horse you can break a bone by it hitting the surface of the road.

If you fell off a building or out of a plane you would break multiple bones when you hit the ground.

It’s the hitting part that breaks/fractures the bones.

FWIW my DD broke her arm but we didn’t know until a few days later as although it was painful, she didn’t cry and she was able to carry on as normal but with a slightly sore arm.
I still feel guilty about it now.

NettleTea · 14/05/2023 16:05

lo to 'she would know she broke it'
I fell over in the woods and thought Id sprained my ankle. I wear lymphodema compression stockings so everything was held quite firmly in place. I knew Id hurt myself but after a couple of days rest I was up and about.
went to hospital for something unrelated a month later and popped into Xray, to discover Id snapped my

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gimmeme · 14/05/2023 16:06

Biscuitandacuppa · 14/05/2023 15:54

You will have to get her to move off the sofa before the doctor calls you back. If she is settled and comfortable she is of course going to say she is fine. The real test is whether she can walk without pain.

I smashed my ankle falling down the stairs, I broke my tibia in 2 places and shattered my fibula but while laying on the sofa waiting for the ambulance I did manage a cup of tea and a laugh at my stupidity with dd. However if I had tried to move or weight bear I would have been in agony.

She's just got up. She can weight bare, however, only managing a few steps and saying it hurts.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/05/2023 16:08

JenWillsiam · 14/05/2023 15:57

Not being funny but you cannot walk on a broken tibia. It’s a weight bearing long bone. I broke mine, attempted to put weight on it under first aiders advice and promptly took out my fibula and displaced the break.

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Well, no, she couldn't. She could right up to the point at which it broke, though. Which is what I meant - she was only walking on uneven ground and still sustained a injury that required plates, pin, screws and months of physio post surgery.

Justhereforaibu1 · 14/05/2023 16:15

I think the doctor will probably tell you to get it checked out

loislovesstewie · 14/05/2023 16:18

My adult son broke his leg, in about the same place as your DD has the mark, falling out of bed. A couple of years later he broke his shoulder blade slipping on a laminate floor. My DH thought DS was being a drama queen, until they got to hospital.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 14/05/2023 16:18

Just take her to a&e, wouldn't you rather take her and it be nothing than leave it and find out you've been making her walk on a broken leg?!

My dd can be very dramatic but I've always just taken her to a&e as I haven't got X-ray vision!

111 will be no use they also haven't got X-ray vision.

Monkeyseesmonkeydoesn · 14/05/2023 16:20

Fractures can be tricky! My 2 year old broke his foot and only squealed once in pain...needed a cast for 2 weeks. Intuition took over and I just kinda knew something wasn't quite right...

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 14/05/2023 16:24

The “Doctor” on the phone I presume has X-ray vision?

Both of mine have broken bones, neither of them cried.

Id be taking her personally.

Mummyof32020 · 14/05/2023 16:27

OP I broke my foot last Tuesday and yes it hurt A LOT but didn't hurt enough in my opinion for A&E. Ended up going the next day because hubby thought I should get it checked and it is broken. Only a little break but a break none the less. So she could well manage to be sat there and it still be broken. No harm in going to get her checked out. Better to be sage than sorry.

IWantRebeccasConfidence · 14/05/2023 16:27

gimmeme · 14/05/2023 16:06

She's just got up. She can weight bare, however, only managing a few steps and saying it hurts.

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So just take her to minor injuries as no one can tell you otherwise. Children don’t know what the fuck A&E is if you ask her if she wants to go. She’s in pain and needs you to be the bloody adult.

Asking a kid if they want pain relief gets a no. Asking them if they are in pain and then you giving them pain relief works as they do t know what pain relief is!

OnTheHamsterWheelOfDoom · 14/05/2023 16:29

I've chipped a metatarsal and been able to weight bear and cycle - I cycled myself to A&E. Chipped a bone in my knee at the ACL and was totally unable to weight bear.

On another memorable occasion I tripped over and landed awkwardly on my left elbow - not running, not from a height. Drove a manual car an hour home, though it was very painful. Had to have my elbow pinned back together under general anaesthetic.

It is possible to weight bear, wiggle your toes and so on, and still have a broken bone.

I remember hurting my ankle when I was young (7?), and hopping around - it really hurt. Mum told me it was just a sprain and I believed her, so I never went to hospital. With 20/20 hindsight I think I probably had a fracture that went untreated.

3luckystars · 14/05/2023 16:29

I know going to A and E is an awful ordeal, but if it’s broken, there is no alternative.

pack up and go.

BaffledOnceAgain · 14/05/2023 16:29

The burning pain is what I recognise from breaking my toes. I often do a 'can they sleep through the night test?' with me and my two dc.

Last summer, ds1 saved a shot in goal and hurt his wrist at football. He was clearly in a lot of pain, but it settled after an hour. He woke in the night with it but insisted on going to school. I collected him an hour later with mum guilt. He was mad at me! Opened his clip lunchbox in the waiting room, pushed the fire door in minor injuries on the way to be triaged to show me I was an idiot for collecting him. It was fractured.

Heartsnrainbows · 14/05/2023 16:30

My mother made me ride my bike to school with a broken arm on the basis that I would be in agony if it was broken, not sitting reading and I could wiggle my fingers so I was fine.

I nearly got hit by a car because I couldn't squeeze the brakes hard enough to stop. School said I had to go to doctors and lo and behold, it was broken. Mum felt awful.

JenWillsiam · 14/05/2023 16:32

NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/05/2023 16:08

Well, no, she couldn't. She could right up to the point at which it broke, though. Which is what I meant - she was only walking on uneven ground and still sustained a injury that required plates, pin, screws and months of physio post surgery.

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So quite different from OPs daughter then who can walk.

DannyZukosSmile · 14/05/2023 16:35

REALLY @gimmeme ?