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Yet ANOTHER woman killed by a man

66 replies

tiredsofingtired · 13/05/2023 23:15

34 year old woman in Bournemouth.

31 year old arrested. (On suspicion)

Yesterday it was Suma Begum killed by her husband.

Literally wouldn't surprise me if there's another tomorrow.

So tired if this but we must not become desensitised to this.

Men need to stop killing women.

OP posts:
gymorgin · 15/05/2023 09:15

Surprise surprise

A man has been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of a 44-year-old woman.
Emergency services were called to an address in Sandalwood Court, Newport at around 11.30am on Friday after a woman was found unresponsive in a property.
She was confirmed dead at the scene.
Gwent police said the woman's next of kin have been made aware and are being supported by specialist officers.
A 25-year-old man from Newport has been arrested on suspicion of murder and remains in police custody.
The force said it is not looking for anyone else at this time in connection with the alleged murder.

Whiskyinajar · 15/05/2023 09:22

There's a real issue with male violence. Yes we know it's not all men but until the decent men start calling out bad behaviour then this will continue. There are men standing up and saying this isn't acceptable behaviour. We need more to join them

MissyB1 · 15/05/2023 09:26

Ds is year 9 at school, they had a talk from local community police officer last week on domestic violence. They covered controlling coercive behaviour, red flags etc.. This is part of how we have to tackle it, educating our young people.

onefinemess · 15/05/2023 09:32

The 0.0001% of men who kill women need to stop.

There, fixed it for you OP.

32 million men in the UK. Rounded up figure of 170 women killed by men each year since 2009. Times x10 for the past decade is 1700.

So yeah, 99.999% of men don't kill women.

And the men who do, don't generally advertise the fact before hand, so the "good men" can't "call out bad behaviour".

jeffgoldblum · 15/05/2023 09:37

That post is basically a word heavy version of ' not all men ' !
Shocking that after yet another woman was murdered , this is where your mind went!

nokidshere · 15/05/2023 09:39

There's a real issue with male violence. Yes we know it's not all men but until the decent men start calling out bad behaviour then this will continue. There are men standing up and saying this isn't acceptable behaviour. We need more to join them

Absolutely male violence is an issue. The thing that is wrong with your post is that men who abuse, rape and kill women don't usually display that behaviour in front of others so no-one can 'call it out'.

Even if 99.999% of men say that this is unacceptable behaviour there is always going be be murderers. Because people who murder are murderers. And abusers of women will always be abusers of women.

No-one knew that my charming, friendly, sociable 'dad' went home every night for 10yrs and systematically beat up his wife, and his friends and colleagues would have be 'shocked and horrified' that this 'nice man' would ever do such a thing.

notinterestedinthetruth · 15/05/2023 09:56

It's terrible that any person should be murdered, esp by their partner, however, if you actually look at the numbers for 2022, there were almost 3 times as many male homicide victims than female, so it should really be men that are in uproar that they are being killed by other men.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/march2022

Homicide in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

Analyses of information held within the Home Office Homicide Index, which contains detailed record-level information about each homicide recorded by police in England and Wales.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/march2022

Ktime · 15/05/2023 09:57

Anyone know why the Suna Begum thread was deleted?

OnSusansFloor · 15/05/2023 10:10

Too many posts that violated the censorship rules talk guidelines, apparently

Whiskyinajar · 15/05/2023 10:34

onefinemess · 15/05/2023 09:32

The 0.0001% of men who kill women need to stop.

There, fixed it for you OP.

32 million men in the UK. Rounded up figure of 170 women killed by men each year since 2009. Times x10 for the past decade is 1700.

So yeah, 99.999% of men don't kill women.

And the men who do, don't generally advertise the fact before hand, so the "good men" can't "call out bad behaviour".

Oh yes they do advertise their behaviour beforehand. You only have t see the WhatsApp prosecutions of police officers to know that men can be generally very disrespectful towards women. This needs to change and until the decent men start saying "I don't want to be a part of thud "banter"" then disrespect, violence and murder will continue.

Your post more or less says "but it's not all menz" Apologist rubbish of the worst kind. Yeah he put his hands round her throat but she didn't die!

Yes we already know it's not all men, but when women are murdered it's nearly always by a man she loves and trusts. And he's often described as "kind and gentle." Newsflash, "kind and gentle" men don't kill women, abusers do that and there are nearly ALWAYS warning signs. Go and educate yourself.

Ktime · 15/05/2023 10:37

onefinemess · 15/05/2023 09:32

The 0.0001% of men who kill women need to stop.

There, fixed it for you OP.

32 million men in the UK. Rounded up figure of 170 women killed by men each year since 2009. Times x10 for the past decade is 1700.

So yeah, 99.999% of men don't kill women.

And the men who do, don't generally advertise the fact before hand, so the "good men" can't "call out bad behaviour".

97% of killings are by men.

Your statistics are bullshit.

LittleLegsKeepGoing · 15/05/2023 10:49

onefinemess · 15/05/2023 09:32

The 0.0001% of men who kill women need to stop.

There, fixed it for you OP.

32 million men in the UK. Rounded up figure of 170 women killed by men each year since 2009. Times x10 for the past decade is 1700.

So yeah, 99.999% of men don't kill women.

And the men who do, don't generally advertise the fact before hand, so the "good men" can't "call out bad behaviour".

That's not remotely helpful.

My sister's boyfriend hit her so hard across the head that we could see her scalp inside the wound. His reason, because she had 'attitude' aka asked him a question. The police don't give a shit, he's getting a slap across the wrist and my sister has been told to be more careful with her moods asking questions

The police are part of the reason that violence against women is seen as OK, the ones who lose their lives are just the tip of a very violent and misogynistic way of life that's seen as broadly acceptable. Women are asking for it and are moody harridans. Poor blokes are being penalised for something that isn't their fault. Fucking ridiculous.

gymorgin · 15/05/2023 10:57

Ktime · 15/05/2023 09:57

Anyone know why the Suna Begum thread was deleted?

Unfortunately it went off on a racist tangent.

SinnerBoy · 15/05/2023 10:57

onefinemess · Today 09:32

The 0.0001% of men who kill women need to stop.

Well, that's one way to miss the point entirely. What is the figure - 1 in 4 women will be victims of domestic violence by their husbands and partners. So that's about 8 million British men who beat their wives and girlfriends.

Puts a bit of perspective on things, no?

Floralie · 15/05/2023 11:00

I don't think OP or anyone else suggested that all men commit these horrendous crimes against women, but useless input with your skewed stats so thanks for bothering.

It is horrific isn't it OP, its sad we live in a society where so many men feel like its their divine right to take the life of women, and evidently feel emboldened to act this way.

Breezycheesetrees · 15/05/2023 11:08

Fucking hell, the apologists for male violence on this thread makes me want to weep.

The 3 women a week who are killed by men are just the tip of the iceberg - our society is soaked in misogyny at every level, which is why these crimes continue to happen, society and the media continue to excuse it and they often go under-punished.

For every man who actually does kill a women in his life, there are many many others who abuse women routinely in so many ways, but stop short of murder. It's a society-deep problem, not a case of a small number of murderers and the rest of the men are all good and harmless. Of course we should be demanding that ALL men step up and address the underlying hatred of women that permeates our culture.

gymorgin · 15/05/2023 11:48

randomchap · 15/05/2023 11:41

https://www.femicidecensus.org/data-matters-every-woman-matters/

Gives a good understanding of the stats.

This is interesting thank you.

PSNonsense · 15/05/2023 11:51

I just KNEW when I opened this that there would be a NAMALT apologist popping up soon. Didn't realise it would be that soon.

Every. Fucking. Time women try and discuss male violence towards women. Which is a problem.

IhearyouClemFandango · 15/05/2023 11:55

notinterestedinthetruth · 15/05/2023 09:56

It's terrible that any person should be murdered, esp by their partner, however, if you actually look at the numbers for 2022, there were almost 3 times as many male homicide victims than female, so it should really be men that are in uproar that they are being killed by other men.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/march2022

Yup, male violence is a real issue.

bookworm44 · 15/05/2023 12:32

onefinemess · 15/05/2023 09:32

The 0.0001% of men who kill women need to stop.

There, fixed it for you OP.

32 million men in the UK. Rounded up figure of 170 women killed by men each year since 2009. Times x10 for the past decade is 1700.

So yeah, 99.999% of men don't kill women.

And the men who do, don't generally advertise the fact before hand, so the "good men" can't "call out bad behaviour".

Why would you even comment like this? Just why??

HappiestSleeping · 15/05/2023 13:07

onefinemess · 15/05/2023 09:32

The 0.0001% of men who kill women need to stop.

There, fixed it for you OP.

32 million men in the UK. Rounded up figure of 170 women killed by men each year since 2009. Times x10 for the past decade is 1700.

So yeah, 99.999% of men don't kill women.

And the men who do, don't generally advertise the fact before hand, so the "good men" can't "call out bad behaviour".

You missed that 72% of murder victims are male, so men mainly kill men. And that apart from a small rise in the last year, the trend is mainly downward.

None of that makes it any easier for the friends and families of those concerned though.

What would be nice is for something to be done about the ones who do have a predictable pattern of behaviour.

Collidascope · 15/05/2023 13:14

Laura Richards' Crime Analyst podcast is worth a listen. She tends to focus on MVAW and points out again and again that there were opportunities to prevent these murders. So often victims are failed.

purpleboy · 15/05/2023 13:24

Good men can call out bad behaviour, they see it everyday, they just ignore it. Very few men step in when this behaviours starts at low level, by the time someone becomes a murder they have usually had years of abuse and violence under their belt. It doesn't just come from nowhere.
Boys will be boys is where it all starts.

kettlebellchips · 15/05/2023 13:36

notinterestedinthetruth · 15/05/2023 09:56

It's terrible that any person should be murdered, esp by their partner, however, if you actually look at the numbers for 2022, there were almost 3 times as many male homicide victims than female, so it should really be men that are in uproar that they are being killed by other men.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/march2022

I’ve seen this posted before and sadly what some people will say some version of men deserve it (they shouldn’t have been out at a pub, they shouldn’t have gone to the football match)

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