Yet ANOTHER woman killed by a man

[tiredsofingtired]

34 year old woman in Bournemouth.

31 year old arrested. (On suspicion)

Yesterday it was Suma Begum killed by her husband.

Literally wouldn't surprise me if there's another tomorrow.

So tired if this but we must not become desensitised to this.

Men need to stop killing women.

The word you are looking for is MURDERED! So here, I'll 'fix it' for you...

'1700 women, who should STILL BE ALIVE, have been murdered in the UK by men in the past decade!'

HTH 👍

Why? It was a very calm and balanced post.
Silencing perfectly appropriate comments just because you don’t agree is not a route to aim for.

Because they want to talk about men when we are talking about women. The only people trying to silence people are the posters who are insistent that we are doing wrong by not talking about male suicide or violence against men by men in every frigging thread about violence against women.

It would be nice to have just one thread where posters didn't actually try to silence conversations about women tbh

Yeah it was one hell of a leap from yet another poor woman being murdered at the hands of a male abuser to well women are basically privileged and men do al the hard work anyway and it's al the feminists fault.

Old cobblers is spot on.

Too much racist garbage, I'm sure you meant to say 🙄

Men who murder women don't generally murder first. There's usually a patterns and signs that they are dysfunctional and it escalates so saying oh not all men, no no it's ONLY rare it's only x y z means women are silenced. Crimes are not taken seriously as the man "only" exposed himself, "only" lashed out etc etc. "Only" got in a fight. Etc etc. Until a woman is dead and THEN everyone focuses on why didn't she say etc etc and blame the women. Again snd again the women blazers talk about how rare, how unlikely these poor mens are misunderstood etc. I actually feel sick when I see these minimising posts. Someone has you on a very tight leash. It's male violence, its deliberate and it never ends.

Not all men murder women, but almost every woman that is murdered by a man.

How's that for you?

And yet there are plenty of examples where men even had nicknames at work like 'the rapist', 'the bastard' and yet no one said anything. I would take a wild guess that men who kill their partners have shown snippets of who they are beforehand, it often escalates from other behaviours. There is also the fact that a lot is societal and takes all men to help eradicate it.

I’ll admit, I’m biased. I have two young boys and as I said, this attitude doesn’t sit well with me.

If a 20 year old woman is killed by her ex-boyfriend, it’s an awful awful crime and it should never happened. If, god forbid, one of my boys reach 20, and get stabbed and killed on a night out or in the city centre, I don’t think it would be less of a crime.

As for the claim that women can’t talk about crime on women, there’s a whole forum dedicated to feminism where this topic is discussed regularly.

Aah, typos and grammatical errors!

There was a lady murdered by her partner in the block of flats I live in a few years ago. It was awful to see the police searching her flat & picking her life apart. I feel for any family who have to go through this

Ds is year 9 at school, they had a talk from local community police officer last week on domestic violence. They covered controlling coercive behaviour, red flags etc.. This is part of how we have to tackle it, educating our young people.

I agree. Great to read this.

Yes, perhaps you're right. When I last looked at that thread it was pretty civil, so it was frustrating to see that it had been deleted. Sometimes I feel like the moderation here is quite controlling, but I guess I shouldn't have assumed that was the case with that thread - perhaps it took a racist turn during the night.

It was discussing the statistics that showed that asylum seekers account for significantly more sexual crimes than their representation in the population - e.g. 1% of the population in France but committing nearly 20% of serious sexual crimes including rape. And the 1200 sexual assaults in one night in Germany.

Uncomfortable reading but I found it interesting. Shying away from facts due to political correctness is how the trans situation has become so bonkers IMHO.

There is a section on feminism where this topic is discussed regularly. And regularly posters (including one of the ones on this thread) pop up to minimise the issue, moan about how we don't talk about mens issues enough and try to stop the conversation. Its tiresome and predictable that women are not allowed to talk about women without being told to centre men in the discussion.

The posters who do kick up a fuss about us discussing women are often asked to start a thread that does centre men so that that can be discussed separately but for some reason they never do.

If God forbid anything ever happened to one of your boys, and I hope it doesn't, and you came to mumsnet to post about it then you would be right to be equally frustrated if the thread was over run by posters saying but what about women.

This is a thread about sorrow for women who have died and its turned into 'but men die too why aren't you talking about them instead'

news.sky.com/story/newport-man-charged-with-murder-of-all-round-beautiful-soul-12882975

Rest in peace Kelly.