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To be appalled at the cost of food?

474 replies

pinotnow · 08/05/2023 20:55

I know this has been done to death and we are in a cost of living crisis, but listening to the news they are intimating that it is slowly levelling out and the worst is over. Yes as far as I can see it's spiralling out of control.

I did a Lidl shop this weekend and bought absolutely nothing for main meals as I have a Hello Fresh box for three days coming, boys are going to their dad's for the weekend on Thursday and I have store cupboard stuff in already.

Therefore all I bought was stuff for lunch boxes, snacks, fruit and breakfast cereal. No cleaning stuff, oil or pet food needed this week and one bottle of wine. I thought it would be a bit less than I usually pay (only the second time I've used Hello Fresh) and certainly the trolley wasn't as full.

It came to £78!! Maybe £5 or so less than I have usually paid lately. It's out of control. How on earth are people supposed to manage and when will it stop going up all the bloody time?

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user1469095927 · 09/05/2023 00:00

@Haematomato I have noticed the same - around £80 to £90 this time last year now I am lucky to get our weekly shop below £120. Interesting you say that about Morrisons as I always thought of them as more expensive than Aldi, although I do like using their click and collect for a treat and when I cannot be bothered going to the shops. We do eat a lot of fruit (not fancy - apples and bananas mostly with grapes and oranges thrown in)

BruisedViolet · 09/05/2023 00:00

AbigHoleinmybucket · 08/05/2023 23:28

Actually the thread is about survival and that means that many of us don't have choices about what we eat.

I'm with CC on this. Feeding my family something that people have fed on since the beginning of time is more important right now than the thing (cow, chicken, goat) I am eating. It all comes down to the good old food chain.
It would be lovely to know every piece of animal/ produce I bought had had a comfy,decent life but frankly that's not my greatest concern right now.
The problem nowadays is that people put animals before people.

Absolutely agree. I would love to be privileged enough to uphold my ethics during a COL crisis. But I can't afford to.

adriftinadenofvipers · 09/05/2023 00:00

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I absolutely get your point. I don't like animal cruelty either. I buy local farm-produced meat but I am fortunate to be able to afford it. However, I appreciate that lots of families have no choice. It's between eat and not eat - basic survival.

Principles are fine, if you can afford them. Many people can't.

AlmostWife · 09/05/2023 00:02

It is insane how much things have gone up. Last year we were spending £45-50 per week. Now it’s around £65-70 — and that’s with us buying lunches most days (don’t have kids and can afford it, I know it’s a luxury though).

BonnieBairn · 09/05/2023 00:04

@minimadgirl you can get some food products on the NHS for food intolerances/allergies so maybe worth asking your GP or local chemist.

Brittl · 09/05/2023 00:04

Orders76 · 08/05/2023 23:56

You're braver than most, whilst I respect that you would do the hard work it does have a mental impact too.

No it doesn't if i want to eat the meat I have to come to terms with I would have to kill it if its not readily available. A lot of my work colleagues are immigrants and they were complaining you cannot get hold of chickens easily here to rear and slaughter yourself. Apparently it tastes much better and the satisfaction of doing it yourself is much higher.

I think a lot of people have become detached from eating meat and dairy. It just arrives on the supermarket shelves. I do live rurally near farms so it is more normal to me.

Swrigh1234 · 09/05/2023 00:05

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Don’t know about pretentious and vile. The self congratulatory superiority complex just comes across as a bit embarrassing. Like trying too hard. Anyway, read the room. Most people don’t have the time or the energy or the inclination to get on their high horse (is that animal cruelty too?) and wag their finger at others. They are simply trying to get by. Your lecturing comes across as bit unhinged.

LiveAHappyLifeBePositive · 09/05/2023 00:10

mumda · 08/05/2023 23:51

I've just downloaded the Lidl app. We don't go often and I'm not sure if we'll save any money with it but it's worth a try.

Lady at Morrisons told me I should have the app for there too although we mostly shop online for home delivery. I've now got a voucher on there for two pounds off fruit. Not read the terms and conditions but we'll see.

I know if something is free then my data is the price.

We shop at Aldi and Lidl. We thought about the app but decided didn’t want our data ‘out there’.
However, how much did you have to spend to get the £2 voucher, if it’s worth it I’ll do it.

coolnice · 09/05/2023 00:12

Swrigh1234 · 08/05/2023 21:08

There is definitely some profiteering going on. It makes no sense that food inflation is still almost 20% unlike the rest of the world. The consumer is being taken for a ride.

"Some" profiteering

It's almost ALL profiteering they're doing it cos they can at this point . Sane with the energy companies

they're cheeky bastards and need stopping

Orders76 · 09/05/2023 00:18

Brittl · 09/05/2023 00:04

No it doesn't if i want to eat the meat I have to come to terms with I would have to kill it if its not readily available. A lot of my work colleagues are immigrants and they were complaining you cannot get hold of chickens easily here to rear and slaughter yourself. Apparently it tastes much better and the satisfaction of doing it yourself is much higher.

I think a lot of people have become detached from eating meat and dairy. It just arrives on the supermarket shelves. I do live rurally near farms so it is more normal to me.

Exactly, if it is normal and not an ethical dilemma for you, I understand. Vegetarian having been brought up in poorish/ eat the whole animal times.

DishwasherHelp · 09/05/2023 00:20

Swrigh1234 · 09/05/2023 00:05

Don’t know about pretentious and vile. The self congratulatory superiority complex just comes across as a bit embarrassing. Like trying too hard. Anyway, read the room. Most people don’t have the time or the energy or the inclination to get on their high horse (is that animal cruelty too?) and wag their finger at others. They are simply trying to get by. Your lecturing comes across as bit unhinged.

Oh, unhinged. Of course. Don't be daft.

Where's the self-congratulation?

I objected to the poster who said they didn't care about animal cruelty. It's pretty basic stuff.

Emotionalstorm · 09/05/2023 00:20

Guys everyone just needs to accept they are poorer and stop asking for payrises.

Porkandbeans1 · 09/05/2023 00:22

There was an article in the latest money week about price gouging (or greedflation as they were calling it). I found it interesting that companies are known to use the news to get away with raising prices. So if wheat shortages are all over the papers they can/will react and raise prices because consumers are expecting it.

To be appalled at the cost of food?
Brittl · 09/05/2023 00:22

Local farmshop meat organic produce costs a fortune. We are a high earning family and I still balk at paying £18 for an organic chicken. Most people wouldn't. I could get a kilo of salmon fillets or lamb leg for the same price. Meat substitutes are expensive the good ones anyway compared to the price of your bog standard meat.

Livinginanotherworld · 09/05/2023 00:23

Comedycook · 08/05/2023 22:27

Yes I was expecting some sanctimonious drip to comment on this and I wasn't disappointed.

Yes I'm a truly awful human being for feeding my family on a budget.

I would go without eggs if there was only battery eggs available, the conditions those hens are kept in is horrifying.

MikaBelle · 09/05/2023 00:24

DishwasherHelp · 09/05/2023 00:20

Oh, unhinged. Of course. Don't be daft.

Where's the self-congratulation?

I objected to the poster who said they didn't care about animal cruelty. It's pretty basic stuff.

There's a small number of posters who are convinced that they're speaking for 'the thread.' They're not. Even poor people give a shit about animal welfare, but some can't process the fact.

DishwasherHelp · 09/05/2023 00:28

Livinginanotherworld · 09/05/2023 00:23

I would go without eggs if there was only battery eggs available, the conditions those hens are kept in is horrifying.

Yep, same.

There's a few posters who can't understand having little money doesn't HAVE to wipe out basic compassion.

Brittl · 09/05/2023 00:30

MikaBelle · 09/05/2023 00:24

There's a small number of posters who are convinced that they're speaking for 'the thread.' They're not. Even poor people give a shit about animal welfare, but some can't process the fact.

I think a good majority of humans are self serving and put themselves over animals. If its a choice between never eating a chicken again or eating them raised in poorer conditions many would choose the latter. They are detached from the process it just arrives in plastic packaging on the supermarket shelves. A friend of mine complained in a restaurant because there was a tiny pinfeather in her chicken. She said it was disgusting, I told her just pull it out , it was a living thing of course there's going to be evidence of that sometimes.

MikaBelle · 09/05/2023 00:30

DishwasherHelp · 09/05/2023 00:28

Yep, same.

There's a few posters who can't understand having little money doesn't HAVE to wipe out basic compassion.

This. Totally.

PurpleWisteria1 · 09/05/2023 00:39

pinotnow · 08/05/2023 20:55

I know this has been done to death and we are in a cost of living crisis, but listening to the news they are intimating that it is slowly levelling out and the worst is over. Yes as far as I can see it's spiralling out of control.

I did a Lidl shop this weekend and bought absolutely nothing for main meals as I have a Hello Fresh box for three days coming, boys are going to their dad's for the weekend on Thursday and I have store cupboard stuff in already.

Therefore all I bought was stuff for lunch boxes, snacks, fruit and breakfast cereal. No cleaning stuff, oil or pet food needed this week and one bottle of wine. I thought it would be a bit less than I usually pay (only the second time I've used Hello Fresh) and certainly the trolley wasn't as full.

It came to £78!! Maybe £5 or so less than I have usually paid lately. It's out of control. How on earth are people supposed to manage and when will it stop going up all the bloody time?

Try going to America. Food here is dirt cheap compared to how much it’s risen there. Even in the cheaper supeermarkets it’s 2-3x more on everything than we pay. Mental.

AbigHoleinmybucket · 09/05/2023 00:45

PurpleWisteria1 · 09/05/2023 00:39

Try going to America. Food here is dirt cheap compared to how much it’s risen there. Even in the cheaper supeermarkets it’s 2-3x more on everything than we pay. Mental.

What I've found living abroad is that it's not the price, it's the range of products on offer.
In the UK we'll have one item from a range of suppliers and prices.
Take pasta, you can get a pack for 40p or £2. This range of products just isn't available in many countries so everyone ends up buying the same pasta at the same price regardless of their income.

AbigHoleinmybucket · 09/05/2023 00:48

In fact I find this is Lidl. and Aldi which is why I don't shop there. I usually end up spending more.

Cheesecakeandwineinasuitcase · 09/05/2023 00:51

Trez1510 · 08/05/2023 21:21

Totally with @Rummikub here.

It's the shrinkflation that's really doing my head in.

I buy a pack/tub of something and expect it to last for xx days but it doesn't.

It's so frustrating and it's a sneaky way of costing us more.

The ‘large’ single bags of crisps are shrinking so much that pretty soon they will end up being the same size as a regular bag of crisps.

PurpleWisteria1 · 09/05/2023 00:53

Swrigh1234 · 08/05/2023 22:24

Sorry but that’s a nonsense comparison. Utter nonsense. In fact this kind of uniformed nonsense misleads people.
Do you know how wages in New York, or US, generally compare to wages in the UK?

Yes I do actually.
Food over there is around 2-3x more expensive than ours at the moment comparing similar supermarkets.
wages are certainly NOT 2-3x more than here generally speaking.
We have had extremely cheap food for ages. Now we just have cheap food. If you went there you would be shocked.

Cakeoutintherain · 09/05/2023 00:54

@FrenchandSaunders we had loads of chips and had one small and one large fish shared between 2 with mushy peas for two of us and it was enough. Maybe it’s a regional thing.