To be appalled at the cost of food?

[pinotnow]

I know this has been done to death and we are in a cost of living crisis, but listening to the news they are intimating that it is slowly levelling out and the worst is over. Yes as far as I can see it's spiralling out of control.

I did a Lidl shop this weekend and bought absolutely nothing for main meals as I have a Hello Fresh box for three days coming, boys are going to their dad's for the weekend on Thursday and I have store cupboard stuff in already.

Therefore all I bought was stuff for lunch boxes, snacks, fruit and breakfast cereal. No cleaning stuff, oil or pet food needed this week and one bottle of wine. I thought it would be a bit less than I usually pay (only the second time I've used Hello Fresh) and certainly the trolley wasn't as full.

It came to £78!! Maybe £5 or so less than I have usually paid lately. It's out of control. How on earth are people supposed to manage and when will it stop going up all the bloody time?

How is this relevant on a thread about how much individual food prices have gone up? There are plenty of other nasty threads where you can keyboard warrior away to your heart's content about what weight you think a woman should be. Off you pop.

Thank you @Catspyjamas17
We aren't all 5ft 2 either, a size 14 is perfect on me

Besides if we want people to be healthy( slim doesn't equal healthy) then people need to be able to afford and cook healthier food and have the time and energy to do so as well as the availability of cooking facilities/energy

@Neurodiversitydoctor

"All that processed meat is a category 1 carcinogen."

Thought the orthorexics would turn up. Now be honest and explain the actual risk, rather than suggesting the OP is giving her sons cancer.

It really is peak MN when you start a thread about the debilitating cost of food and are told it's your own fault as you feed your kids junk!

Exactly. If people are hungry they don't sleep well or have the energy to exercise and their health deteriorates. Their health will also deteriorate if they live on cheap carbs and palm oil, so it's lose-lose, and as the general population's health gets poorer more pressure is lumped on healthcare services where they exist; accessible and affordable dentistry is a pipe dream for most people even if they're not working long shifts for crap money on zero hours contracts.

Children can't learn effectively at school if they're hungry because they won't be able to concentrate, regardless of how bright and able they are. If their blood sugar is low they'll be ratty and their behaviour will suffer so they're more likely to get into trouble and be punished further - I don't know if anybody saw or remembers a fairly recent press article about the teachers who clubbed together to buy a toaster so that children arriving at school with no breakfast could have toast. These children don't stand a chance against equally bright ones who have sufficient food (and likely their own bedroom, reliable internet access and so on); they're fucked before they even start.

The combination of expensive food, housing and utitilties with low wages is a time bomb, and it's barely started ticking yet.

It’s not orthorexic, it’s been widely-publicised…

https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2015/10/26/processed-meat-and-cancer-what-you-need-to-know/amp/

https://www.nhs.uk/Live-well/eat-well/food-guidelines-and-food-labels/red-meat-and-the-risk-of-bowel-cancer/

@TokyoStories

It's widely used as a scare story on a slow news day. Category one means it's a proven cause, where we understand the mechanism, not the likelihood that it will happen. So smoking is a category one as is processed meat but they have vastly different risks. Learn to understand the data.

@TokyoStories
sent evidence that processed meat is a Category 1 carcinogen.
Which it is.
So she was absolutely correct and should not be insulted for not understanding the data by way of ….what…? Trying to make out she doesn’t know what she’s talking about or maybe using classic MN personal insults to gain the upper hand.

@LiveAHappyLifeBePositive

I originally responded to someone who answered OPs post with a claim that she was filling her basket with carcinogens. That is scaremongering and not supported by the data. One of the links provided by @TokyoStories literally states that a few sausages a week for healthy individuals is nothing to be alarmed about. Don't post links if you've not read them.

I simply provided evidence to processed meats being category 1 carcinogens and the risks associated with consuming them, as you requested. What you do with that information is up to you. By all means crack on with your sausages.

It was me who posted that about carcinogens. There was an awful lot of processed meat in the OP's list not a couple of sausages. As other's say crack on, personally I haven't bought processed meat since 2013 when the link was established. DH has a family history of bowel cancer.

gross who would want to do that to their body with the carcinogenic meat not to mention the ground up buttholes and everything horrid that goes into it.

I’ve had cancer
im aware of nitrites and cancer link.
im still buying sausage as they’re quick easy and cheap.
id rather be able to afford better meat. Its part of a diet that includes lentils which take a lot of energy to cook if they’re whole.

People make lots of differing choices - and that’s ok surely.

Bowel cancer causes the second most cancer deaths after lung cancer and more than 10% of cases are attributable to red and processed meat consumption. Seems like a reasonable risk to be worried about. Especially since OP could buy diced chicken for half the price per kg of the processed fridge raiders that she is complaining are expensive.

@TokyoStories was responding with evidence to a comment she had previously made.
She is allowed to provide evidence.
She was right to do so.
Making demeaning remarks to MNs who offer evidence to prove their point is completely uncalled for.
This action deserves calling out.
Which I did.

The health/poverty/food link is profoundly upsetting. Yes nitrates, heavily processed, crap-stuffed foods are a factor. Poor people buy shit food and suffer poor health, and anyone suggesting trying to eat more nutritiously ethically gets told to sod off for being elitist and expecting the poor to live on lentils.

While everyone scraps about that, the government can get on with quietly giving not one single shit.

*or ethically

£2 a dozen nights paid the other day

Size 14 is slim for someone tall.
A size 14 on someone short appears overweight, but not vastly.
It's all relative.

Yeah, I’m 5ft 8 and a size 14 and not overweight.

5'8 here too.

Size 14 is definitely overweight.
Size 8 is slim.

How would you describe yourself then?

It depends on your build. I was still a size 10 at the very top of the healthy weight range (I'm 5ft 5). I just have a small build so it could work the other way as well.

I went to Lidl last night for the first time in a while. I buy specific items from there, so can easily recognise any price increases. Man, the prices have shot up! Still reasonable in most cases, but still a hike from what they were not long ago.