Well, I hated the coronation…

[TheColourofspring]

I can see I am in the minority on here but I found yesterday to be distasteful on a gigantic scale. To watch the most privileged people travel in gold coaches & be decorated with diamonds and gold that is priceless in the face of millions of people struggling to eat/heat their homes just feels so wrong.

Our primary school has just opened a food bank. There are kids & families in crisis- children coming into school hungry & smelly as families can’t afford to wash clothes (I am not joking) - living in Dickensian conditions. Some of the teaching staff use the foodbank.

Yesterday was a display of obscene wealth. The royals didn’t even pay for it- we did. How can we find money for that absolute nonsense yet we can’t find money for large swathes of the population to feed themselves.

While Charles was sitting there in his gold costume holding these priceless items, plenty of families weren’t eating. It made me really angry.

I am tired of all the arguments for a royal family- how somehow these displays are quaint. Yesterday was an obscene display of wealth, inherited privilege and everything that’s wrong with this country. Seems a conversation about the royals is long overdue.

Or like the nearly 2 billion of personal wealth Charles has ?
That he doesn't pay tax on ?

The nearly 2 billion that he won't touch to pay for it even contribute to his PR party ?
That 2 billion?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/20/revealed-king-charless-private-fortune-estimated-at-almost-2bn

Happy you enjoyed yourself though please could you clean up after yourselves.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/05/07/litter-streets-london-coronation-anger/

Did you?

No one in this country is taxed on their wealth.

We are all taxed on income from employment, property and assets we own.

The King and Prince of Wales pay income tax.

@PrettyMaybug

"They didn't get the screen time and the TV gold moment they wanted."

Tell me you have a clue without telling me you haven't a clue

The police action will be contested - on going publicity for republic
Informed fair minded people objected strongly to the police action and donations and membership of republic increased

The international media are reporting on the protests and will co tinier to follow the story

It’s taxpayer spending.

The argument that lost money is small fry in the context of other lost money is weak.

It taxpayers money we can choose to spend it on what we like. If sufficient taxpayers made it clear they didn’t want to fund any more coronations, that would be the end of them.

250 million could cover 100,000 or so operations.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions regarding the monarchy.

However one person's right to protest does not trump another person's right to celebrate or to try and disrupt that celebration.

Quite frankly the protesters are akin to a disgruntled ex who decides to try and disrupt the second marriage of their ex by protesting outside the church.

By all means campaign, protest or lobby for the abolition of the monarchy but to try and disrupt the one day event that the majority of the population wish to celebrate just looks sad and bitter.

We as taxpayers don’t have any say on day to day tax spending.

We elect MPs to sit in the House of Commons on the basis of a broad spending policy only. We don’t elect the members of the government or the cabinet or the prime minister

@LittleBearPad

No.
Wealth is taxed by inheritance tax . The 'royals ' refuse to pay that

The income tax they do pay is voluntary and they decide themselves what to offer

Their finances are completely obfuscated. MPS have asked for clarity re the finances of the Dutchys - as because they are not submits to the same rules as the rest of us . They should be paying corporation tax but decide for themselves

It's corruption

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/05/how-the-british-royal-family-hides-its-wealth-from-public-scrutiny

Listening to people speak on this I had sympathy for the police as they said a huge event went off incredibly well and security was good

I know they probably don’t need the public to say it but it must be a huge amount of work to ensure these events go as smoothly as they do

@Mirabai

"It taxpayers money we can choose to spend it on what we like".

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No we can't - we don't get a choice in paying the £120 billion a year in interest payments on Government debt do we?

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-11440971/amp/UK-national-debt-payments-set-total-120-4bn-year.html

Besides the link between representative democracy and voters getting an actual say in how the government spends taxpayers money is very weak.

@1dayatatime

The majority of the population was not interested !

Where have you been ? 15 % were 'very interested '

And protest is a right - not a concession

This has all backfired very badly

@SunnyEgg

Republic had been in talks and agreement with the police for months leading up to this

They had a dedicated area

You don't understand what this means for democracy and probably wont until it affects something you care about

That's what happens with a cult though isn't it, a bloke who lives forever and sits in a golden carriage isn't going to be asked to pay tax is he, he's too godlike etc 😄But because of the vast RF PR spend and new anti protest laws, they keep their army of cult followers who will go mental, like on this thread, savaging anyone who dares criticise dear leader! There's no point arguing when they're that far gone.

We absolutely have a say in what we choose to fund via our elected representatives in parliament. If the majority of voters over a long period don’t want to fund the royal family, coronations and all, that will be the end of the royal family as a publicly funded institution.

'The majority of the population was not interested !'

At least 20M (obviously more because I'm pretty sure it wasn't just one person watching in each household, there were 3 in ours) tuned in to all or part of the coronation - or was everyone just tuning in to snark?

It's funny how opinion polls are a true accurate reflection when they confirm your particular view, but not worth the paper they're written on and 'no-one I know has ever been contacted by a polling company' when they don't.

Only in generalities. Not in detail.

As a democracy we choose what we prioritise and vote in the party that reflects that. The country voted to waste billions on Brexit and fuck up the economy - so that is what we did.

If voters prioritise NHS spending over the royal family politicians will follow.

Generalities and detail. Your local council represents you on a local level.

But you only need a generality of no more RF funding and that’s that.

The NHS is prioritised over the Royal Family. What a funny thing to say.

In 2021/22 the Department for Health and Social Care spent £190 billion.

We absolutely have a say in what we choose to fund via our elected representatives in parliament.

We don’t. We had absolutely no say in the government pissing money away on stamp duty holidays, eating out to help out subsidies or fraudulent bounce back loans which collectively make the cost of the coronation look like small change.

Hotfootgoose · Yesterday 06:19
I know lots of families are struggling, but how much does it cost to wash clothes? People used to do this in a river years ago, so I doubt s blob of soap is the problem here.”

Good God, heard it all now. What a very stupid comment.

I was snarking so you can take mine off... my takeaway is I need new oven gloves.

Splendid. The Royal Family can likewise decide no more Crown Estate funding to the government…