Well, I hated the coronation…

[TheColourofspring]

I can see I am in the minority on here but I found yesterday to be distasteful on a gigantic scale. To watch the most privileged people travel in gold coaches & be decorated with diamonds and gold that is priceless in the face of millions of people struggling to eat/heat their homes just feels so wrong.

Our primary school has just opened a food bank. There are kids & families in crisis- children coming into school hungry & smelly as families can’t afford to wash clothes (I am not joking) - living in Dickensian conditions. Some of the teaching staff use the foodbank.

Yesterday was a display of obscene wealth. The royals didn’t even pay for it- we did. How can we find money for that absolute nonsense yet we can’t find money for large swathes of the population to feed themselves.

While Charles was sitting there in his gold costume holding these priceless items, plenty of families weren’t eating. It made me really angry.

I am tired of all the arguments for a royal family- how somehow these displays are quaint. Yesterday was an obscene display of wealth, inherited privilege and everything that’s wrong with this country. Seems a conversation about the royals is long overdue.

Haha people are obsessed with the world laughing at them on here.

It’s all they can think about.

This deserves to be presented twice. I'd love to know if the OP started a lot of threads about this corrupt government. Also I'm pretty sure there are as many far more sex offenders in Parliament over the last thirty years as in the Royal Family and we elected them!

@TheColourofspring because France and equality are not two words that go together in my mind.

Also, I have experienced anti-Englishness from some Welsh people so I think you need to be truthful about your motives and you did let it slip that you don’t like the Union Jack.

You keep going on about poverty and hungry children but don’t explain how getting rid of the Royal family would get rid of this.

As I see it there are three major problems with this country (1) the lack of affordable childcare, (2) the lack of affordable housing and (3) the shit healthcare system. The Goverment have started to make attempts to resolve (1). No political party will do anything about (3) because they haven’t got the guts to dispose of the NHS. I’d like to hear how the major political parties are going to resolve (2).

It is sometimes directed at politicians but based on what is in our region, which contains several large population centers, including a major university city, I’d say it is neither widespread or happening all the time.

There was a lot of tradition that was done away with to pare down the ceremony. Also most of the Royals do a huge amount of charity work so I don't begrudge them digging their old family bling out once every 70 years or so.

@Spirographcity yes I have as it goes. Why does it have to be one or the other though? I am writing about the royals as it happened yesterday. I also write about hating tories too 🤷🏻‍♀️

@TheColourofspring

Then surely the issue lies with parliament and has nothing to do with the monarchy.

And in many ways the issues lies with us as we vote them in

However most people that have dont want to share more wealth with people that don't. That's human nature

Maybe a bit of charity here. Taxes there but those at the top don't spend them wisely or fairly so that's the fundamental issue.

However I can't see communism or even socialism being accepted nor would
I Want too tbh.

The radio said yesterday that the coronation cost significantly more than the queens coronation which was 45 million.

I adore the royal family and our British traditions and enjoyed watching it but I'm Guessing they didn't pay for this themselves. Happy to stand corrected if I'm wrong but I don't suppose the tourism that the event brought in generates more income than the cost of the event. In these times of austerity, I can see the point the OP was trying to make.

Some of the cost of the coronation isn't necessary at all. All the emergency services are getting a coronation medal. The cost of that would be huge. It's nice for recognition but I think maybe a pay rise would be better than a medal.....

I'm with you, OP.

The display of privilege and wealth was a kick in the teeth to all the people struggling with the cost of living right now and we are supposed to doff our caps at a bloke in a gold coach and crown.

The Royal Family get 'subsidies' from parliament that equates to approximately 25% of the national income they generate. The rest remains in the government coffers for them to fritter away on goodness knows what.

The remainder of their income is from rents on Crown lands etc.

It operates just like any other nationalised business, really. The country would be financially worse off without the royal family. This idea of taxpaters funding them is somewhat of a misnomer.

So very much to be unhappy about in the coronation - the grossly lavish celebration of a self-serving institution.

but what about the animal cruelty??? I thought we were meant to be a nation of animal lovers - why didn’t anyone seem to be thinking about the misery of so many of those poor horses? All the gold and glamour etc makes people blind…

Hear, hear.

The fact that the monarchy is non-partisan (at least publicly) is very important.

So we'd be better off as a nation without that billion then?

Your objection quite rightly about the level of inequality in this country should be directed towards the politicians and governments that have created it and allowed it to continue.

Use your vote in 2024.

That is not an argument for them to continue in their unearned privilege.

@chopc

Yesterday was a moment in British history. The royal family are a part of British culture. I loved the traditions.

Thank you! Yes!

In fact, we should be bringing back more Royal traditions. I like the one where every so often we behead one of them.

This. I'm getting sick of all these whinging threads. There have always been the very wealthy and the very poor, it's hardly a new thing, nor are the RF the only family with inherited wealth. Like much of life it is the luck of the draw whether you are born into wealth or not, being envious of others is not helpful.

Instead of all this resenting the wealth of others maybe start resenting your government, who are the ones to blame for much of the current issues being faced.

The people who have caused food banks are conservative politicians, people who have donated to the conservative party (including foreigners) and conservative and brexit voters. The current royal family support mental health and environmental charities. And Charles reduced spending on the coronation . You are shooting the wrong horse.

Good grief. The family bling gets an outing, and this.

Save your ire for the industry fat cats and celebrities.

Yes OP it's absolutely sickening, and anyone who doesn't see so is a brainwashed moron.

Didn’t the queen only start paying tax in the 90s? And surely her funeral would have cost a fair bit. Plus there were numerous Jubilee celebrations over the years, again costing millions. People don’t seem to worry about those things though.

This. I'm getting sick of all these whinging threads.

Why don't you go on the fawning threads? Serious question. I avoid those and prefer it here.

I totally agree. Luckily my country has long had an anti-monarchy majority, which dramatically reduces the blithering idiocy for events like this. You won't ever see those polls reported in the UK's royalist, unionist, imperialist media!

I see it as a basic test of intelligence and integrity. There are some 8 billion people in the world, and the coronation lets me know which tens of millions in the UK are just not worth bothering with.

I've been noting businesses too. I doubt many people will flock to buy unrelated products just because a business goes doolally for the coronation, and the effect will be short-lived. Many more people are quietly taking note, and will swerve those businesses forever. It's a very odd marketing decision.

If you worked hard OP you could have a nonce for a brother, a crown on your head, and a cult of morons chanting your name!

I'm not 'jealous' (or even envious) of the wealth of the royal family or anyone else. I'm not rich by any means, but I'm far more privileged than many and grateful for it.

However, like the OP, I am angry about the inequality in this country and find the amount of taxpayers money spent on the coronation especially vulgar and distasteful at the moment, given the amount of people in the UK struggling to make ends meet. No, the royal family aren't single handedly to blame for the state of the country, yes I vehemently hate Tories and hold them responsible too, but that doesn't mean people aren't entitled to be angry about the much more deserving causes that those public funds could have been spent on.

@CoozudBoyuPuak sums it up perfectly. Some people are incapable of critical thought, and that suits the ruling classes just fine.

If we could guarantee a fair, decent leader maybe we could live in the more equal society the Republicians think they would achieve, unfortunately what happens too often is you end up with an absolute ruler of a different sort. Here you can say you hate the RF and nothing happens, too many places if you go against state or religion you will live to regret it very quickly. I'll stick with the Kibg thanks