Well, I hated the coronation…

[TheColourofspring]

I can see I am in the minority on here but I found yesterday to be distasteful on a gigantic scale. To watch the most privileged people travel in gold coaches & be decorated with diamonds and gold that is priceless in the face of millions of people struggling to eat/heat their homes just feels so wrong.

Our primary school has just opened a food bank. There are kids & families in crisis- children coming into school hungry & smelly as families can’t afford to wash clothes (I am not joking) - living in Dickensian conditions. Some of the teaching staff use the foodbank.

Yesterday was a display of obscene wealth. The royals didn’t even pay for it- we did. How can we find money for that absolute nonsense yet we can’t find money for large swathes of the population to feed themselves.

While Charles was sitting there in his gold costume holding these priceless items, plenty of families weren’t eating. It made me really angry.

I am tired of all the arguments for a royal family- how somehow these displays are quaint. Yesterday was an obscene display of wealth, inherited privilege and everything that’s wrong with this country. Seems a conversation about the royals is long overdue.

@TheColourofspring

You are right . The waste of money is a disgrace but that's not the real objection to the farce

It literally puts the cap on the social inequalities in our society
It reinforces ' know your place in this fixed system'

The arrests of protesters using rushed through laws combined with C and C hobbling about with ridiculous crowns - it was disturbing

You aren't in the minority OP - they know that's which is why they are trying to frighten people into silence and acquiescence

@Freysimo no idea! Can’t see anyone in government good enough at the moment. But that doesn’t mean they don’t exist!

If we didn’t have the Royal Family, imagine productivity increase! GDP would be through the roof.

The ONS have said it’s almost incalculable to estimate the working hours lost due to people making anti-Meghan posts on Mumsnet.

@TheColourofspring I think you need to be honest about what your problem is. Ending the Royal family is not going to get rid of poverty and it won’t make the country richer. You lost me when you started going on about France being the defender of equality. When I look at my counterparts in our Paris head office compared to my team in London, there’s one huge difference. Give me the hugely diverse team in London any day.

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I know you weren’t asking me but: Floella Benjamin please.

I cannot fathom HOW you think that is preferable to having the stability of a non- political head of state.

It sounds horrendous to me. Also your main argument seems to be about the wealth of the monarchy. The elected head of state would presumably have access to vast wealth and privilege too - so anyone who wanted to live like a king for a bit could run for president and we'd risk electing an idiot who just wants to PLAY king (look at Trump)

Yesterday what I saw was someone taking their responsibility incredibly seriously, and a lot of people showing reverence for the function of the crown. No one was fawning over Charles, as an individual, everyone (including Charles) was observing respect for the role of monarch.

The entirety of the armed forces give their allegiance to the crown - I'm not sure any other head of state could garner the respect from the armed forces that the Royals do (there is a reason Anne rode with them from the ceremony)

Put the Guardian down: you imagine wrongly.

Exactly. The world doesn’t give a shit.

How can you say this yet bang on about the coronation funds being better spent elsewhere? That £1bn literally flows to businesses, who pay wages and taxes.

@Dibblydoodahdah i am being transparent about my views. I disagree with the monarchy and all it stands for. I am Welsh - so what? And I like some of French life- so what? France is a socialist republic effectively- its got problems like all countries- but I like a lot about it. As I do many other countries that don’t have the systems we have 🤷🏻‍♀️

More that it's impressive, interesting diversion from some sleb's arse.

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The thing is, just because you didm't enjoy the coronation it's wrong to assume you might throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater and ditch the monarchy. i too found the coronation a gaudy, distasteful spectacle. But I recognise the monarchy has a constitutional role. So why not just let them get on with it. We don't need a Coronation like we saw yesterday to have a king with a constitutional role. Personally I think it makes us look daft. And I have friends overseas who echo this. 'Quaint' isn't necessarily a good look on the world stage.
No, let the King do what he does and meet the PM every week and be head of state. But without the bells and whistles. Other civilised countries with monarchies manage to do so.

I can't vote (can't see the option to in app?) but totally agree. The whole thing looked and felt ridiculous and so far out of touch with reality. I really wonder if we have lost compassion or we have always been like this.

I'm in Scotland though, and where I am, very few people were interested, certainly
In my circles of family and friends.

Do you honestly believe that if we were a republic that society would suddenly become fair and equal.

Because I don't

LET THEM EAT QUICHE.

@ThankmelaterOkay 🤣 Quite!

I'm mildly obsessed by the anointing that us plebs are not allowed to see and the insertion of the Royal oven glove along with Penny Mordaunt as a walk on Valkyrie. If Chaz had footed the bill I would be more minded to be charitable about the whole nonsense as mediaeval cos-play. But as we know he didn't because no doubt like L'Oréal he considers he is worth it.

SPOILER ALERT - The Crown actually showed us their recreation of The Anointing. Look away if you don't want to spoil the mystery.

I don't agree with 'a lot of people over the world wanted and expected a show.' I think it's 'that if there is going to be a show, I will watch it '

It was 70 years since the last coronation. Most people alive today weren't alive 70 years ago.

@HeBeaverandSheBeaver of course not- I am not that naive- but my point is that the current system really isn’t working for a lot of people

People angry at a Coronation that cost £100m, rather than the billions spent on illegal Covid contracts.

Yes £100m is a lot, but, the majority of that is spread amongst thousands of people & companies, who will return it to the economy pretty quickly.

The billions on Covid is resting in the accounts of a few wealthy people, because (as we know) trickle down economics doesn’t work.

You have to admire a government, who so easily distract people. So many people distracted by a few diamonds and a gold coach, directing their ire at that - where are the hundreds of threads of the daily economic inequalities - the ones that actually affect people? The cost of the RF is peanuts (in the scale of GDP) their role ceremonial.

YANBU. It’s obscene and I find it embarrassing. It’s like living out real Game of Thrones… because a couple had it off their offspring is sovereign?!

The whole things is lunacy & the sooner people wake up to the propaganda the better.

@ExtraOnions no, I’m quite angry about that too to be fair!

@Zampa sorry I was out of date, you are right about the Trussell Trust, in 2021 they had an income of £57m and only dispersed £18m. Last year their income dropped to £34m and they dispersed £50m. I assume their donations were hit by the COL crisis and people donating money to Ukraine.