Tories lose over 1000 seats in local elections

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Which was their damage limitation number so when they lost 800 they could say 'we've not done as badly as we feared'.

AIBU to be cracking open the champagne while they try to figure out how the hell they can put a positive spin on this?

Looks like tories did badly but Labour didn't increase their vote share very much, so come a general election it might not be enough. I could never vote for Kier, maybe if it was Andy Burnham or Yvette Cooper but my local mp is so safe he'll never be ousted.

Me too, and she will be superb.

So people who voted Labour before did again and tories stayed home or voted independent.

I mean they kind of are, if by 'the people' he means anyone with eyes/ears/a brain/a conscience who would vote anything other than Tory. Bit of a shoot yourself in the foot strategy though

Jesus, you must be on an enormous salary if tax was 100K+. Like 300K? Why on earth wouldn't you want to contribute earning that amount, you can bloody afford it

I wouldn't come back either @Dorisbonson. After 13years of this Tory government the UK is a much poorer, neglected, country where nothing much works and there is little hope. They've fucking wrecked the place.

And it is going to take a long time to recover.

I’d vote Labour too if someone like Andy Burnham or Yvette Cooper were leader. Im
not convinced about Starmer.
I also don’t think the Tories deserve another term in office.

It's so obvious when you look at the charts that most people didn't vote Tory, now let's hope that translates into a non Tory government next year. After which I hope the venal b*stards are never in power again in my lifetime and their pig ignorant selfish supporters have either all died out or been banished to a remote island somewhere off Alaska. (I can dream.)

Until we have PR though there's a real danger that the sods will get back in again, especially if their BBC and mainstream Press apologists keep fiddling the headlines and manipulating social media algorithms and stupid people keep falling for their lies. Which is one of the reasons today's well deserved and long overdue trouncing was not a foregone conclusion. I was trying not to be too delighted at the pictures of Tory councillors with their heads in their hands.

I'm fairly sure that for most of them their despair was nothing to do with failing their constituents. Oh no, much more likely to be because they've now fallen off the big fat sushi train and might actually have to go and find a real job (though I'm sure Rish! and his mates will find them a nice little number somewhere).

One of the issues is that while rampant True Blues only have one party to vote for, if your politics are more centrist or progressive, there are several parties who might win your vote, thereby splitting the opposition and making it more likely under the FPTP system that the Tories will get in yet again.

I just hope to God that now the SNP is effectively dissolving that the Scottish vote might help. There can't be that many Tories left in Scotland now, surely. (I sometimes fantasise darkly about the remaining cabal being rounded up and hunted by [human] hounds across the Highlands, but that's probably a tale for a future Black Mirror episode or similar.)

I'm not a fan of Starmer but he is evidently far cleverer than many give him credit for, do if that's our best option I'll hold my nose and vote next year. I really hope the end is in sight now though it will take at least a generation before the harm this lot has inflicted is repaired.

I don't think Labour can get complacent. They still have a lot of work to do. A lot of people vote in GEs that don't vote in local elections. Labour need to win seats in Scotland and the former Red Wall. The Tories are going to fight tooth and nail and Labour can't be surprised about everything they do. They can't lose and moan about the "right wing media" etc again.

I do think Labour will win next year.

The headline for these local elections is the Tories losing 1060 seats to the "Not The Tories". Labour have picked up only half of these seats (532) - only increasing their number of councillors by 25%. It is the Lib Dems (+34%) and Greens (+101%) who have done well, gaining 650 councillors between them.

Labour must totally avoid any complacency. They have not really performed well enough this time. The results show they would be the largest party at the next General Election, but are still a long way from securing a majority. Experts analysing the vote (with 228 of 230 councils reporting) predict Labour would win a maximum 298 seats - still 28 short of a majority.

The two bits of good news for Labour is that they may only need to come to an arrangement with either the Lib Dems or the SNP and not both, and they are favourites to pick up seats in Scotland if the SNP continues to self-destruct.

There is no "Not the Tories" anymore than there is "Not Labour" or "Not the Lib Dems". The parties are all independent of each other, and the last Coalition government in this country was a Tory/Libdem one.

You lot make me laugh. Seems none of you remember the shit show of the last Labour government, you know the one where the PM took us into a war that actually wasn’t and he lied, not to mention allowing the country to go broke and selling off the gold, and shat upon the great nhs.

maybe one day you will realise they are all rubbish in some form

I'm very happy. These billionaires sucking up to huge businesses and screwing everyone else need to go

I think the conservative government will win the next general election. Local elections have little bearing on general elections. It's just a protest vote and people will be back because deep down people know that the conservative government are the party of financial prudence and competence.

Xenia (if we are too believe all told on here) is so rich she owns an island and all kids at Private school, not sure she is using that many frontline council services.

YABU. The Tories have wrecked the country and brought us to our knees.

But. Labour are institutionally misogynistic. If they get in to power next year women are screwed.

It's just a protest vote and people will be back because deep down people know that the conservative government are the party of financial prudence and competence.

the Tory’s being a prudent financial government is a myth, over the last 60 years it’s labour that actually has been prudent but Tory press perpetuate the lies

But. Labour are institutionally misogynistic. If they get in to power next year women are screwed.

have you not noticed the trans laws the Tory’s have brought in during 2017?

Surely the Tories will have done something before then, as they really, really care about women's rights. No way would they ever so something so snide and just use it as part of their culture war...
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How’s the last 13 years been, in that respect?

Actually that's not completely true. Before the referendum I thought we probably should leave the EU, but then seeing the collection of bigots and casual racists who led the leave campaign I could not bring myself to vote the same way as them.

But. Labour are institutionally misogynistic. If they get in to power next year women are screwed

You only have to look at the conviction rates for rape under the Tories and the increases in child poverty to know that's simply not true.

I live somewhere where it was once said in our local paper, “you could put a blue rosette on a donkey and people would still vote for it” such was the Tory support. And now it’s gone Labour!

I only saw one placard outside someone’s house saying, “vote Conservative” in the whole area and someone had written, “are you mental?” on it in black marker 😂😂

That is one way of interpreting the results, but I would wager there is considerable anti-Tory sentiment in the country. If people think the next election is going to be close, then many of those who voted Green, Lib Dem and Labour will vote for the candidate most likely to beat the Tory, which could well result in a not insignficant majority for Labour.