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To think this is the worst thing about parenting small children?

529 replies

Iheartherain · 05/05/2023 05:28

5 bloody am.

I thought the clocks going forward had reverted us to a more civilised wake-up time of around 6, but no.

Please don’t give advice as a year or more of trying to fix this hasn’t worked 😅 but honestly it is pretty miserable. I can’t have hobbies in an evening or watch ‘adult’ TV or nights out or date nights if we got a babysitter.

I am sick of being tired and yawning, fat because I seek sugar to boost my energy and always have a headache. It’s shit.

OP posts:
whosaidtha · 05/05/2023 10:00

I'll ask again. Why is your partner not doing half of this?!
I have an early riser but it's not every day. It 3-4days a week as husband takes half. Then we each get a good lie in on the weekend. Sounds like you're doing the lions share. And what will you do when you've been up 5 times with a baby and toddler wakes at 5? Get your partner to do their share.

Tinybrother · 05/05/2023 10:01

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/05/2023 09:51

Where on earth did you get the impression my teens were causing me an undue amount of worry ? I assure you midnight pick-ups, exams, University drop offs, boyfriends, girlfriends and occasional over indulgence of alcohol are very, very, very standard teen parenting.

Things which are much harder and I thank my lucky stars I haven't had to deal with yet but some of my contempories have are:

Serious mental health problems including self- harm and eating disorders

Significant drug use

Teenage pregnancy and/ or sexual assault
Transgender issues
Bullying
Crime

Do I need to go on ?

I love babies and small children and for me spending a day with a 2 year old is pure pleasure, before I was a Mum, when I had a 2 year old and now. It just isn't hard work to me, even if they day starts early.

That’s lovely. I hope my teens are as little trouble as yours. Did you miss though that the title was about parenting small children? The OP wasn’t asking about parenting teens at all - you just decided to start making comparisons.

User1706 · 05/05/2023 10:02

Worst thing is having the 5am start getting to mid morning when toddler is getting bored so you drag yourself to something child related to keep them occupied and maybe grab a coffee. Getting asked how they sleep, you grumble your shattered and some random women goes 'oh really little noah/lewis/Emily-mae [insert whatever name you like here] has sleep through from being 4 weeks they love their sleep!' And then decides to ramble on about the importance of a good bed time routine or other amazing sleep ideas they can come up with whilst you just zone out wishing that their little darling grows up to be an appalling teen.

Tinybrother · 05/05/2023 10:03

If someone started a thread about “the worst thing about parenting teenagers” then I’m sure the responses would make many parents of toddlers thank their lucky stars that they aren’t yet at that stage, but that’s not what the OP started the thread to talk about.

Iheartherain · 05/05/2023 10:08

How tone deaf and awful would it be for me to go onto a thread on teenagers where someone is genuinely having an awful time and say how much worse I have it?

Maybe think of that before doing that to me.

@whosaidtha simply because funnily enough, we don’t live in a mansion. When you are woken by a crying child, it isn’t as simple as him being taken by someone else and rolling over and going back to sleep.

This morning for instance DH did try to take him but he was in such an obnoxious mood (which in itself is because he’s tired) that nothing anyone did was good enough. Then when I did actually manage to sneak back upstairs and try to get some sleep, DS had a tantrum downstairs which woke me and then came charging in anyway and sat on my head saying ‘poo’ (which funnily enough I knew anyway as I was choking!)

I am generally fairly laid back and have a sense of humour about it, but I am extremely tired today and so is DS, he’s fallen asleep on the way to the activity I’ve already paid for so … Arghh.

OP posts:
Comedycook · 05/05/2023 10:16

Iheartherain · 05/05/2023 10:00

@Neurodiversitydoctor you came on the thread to inform me teens are more exhausting. I stand by the fact that if someone is genuinely more drained and frazzled from teens than toddlers then they need to look at their parenting.

Teens aren't more exhausting. They cause you more emotional turmoil and you're less in control but toddlers are far more exhausting. I have teens and I often nap on the weekends while they watch TV, play Xbox, read etc.

QueefQueen80s · 05/05/2023 10:17

It will pass OP! The 5am wakeup for the day are full energy is awful. Mine both stopped around 3.

MammaTo · 05/05/2023 10:22

Yeah it’s absolutely shit.

I particularly hate when people say “ohh these are the best days of your life” or “you’ll miss all this one day”. Hhmmm WILL I REALLY THO?

Whilst I appreciate that it’s probably true, when you’re in the trenches it’s infuriating.

Sending solidarity to the no sleeping club.

MammaTo · 05/05/2023 10:25

User1706 · 05/05/2023 10:02

Worst thing is having the 5am start getting to mid morning when toddler is getting bored so you drag yourself to something child related to keep them occupied and maybe grab a coffee. Getting asked how they sleep, you grumble your shattered and some random women goes 'oh really little noah/lewis/Emily-mae [insert whatever name you like here] has sleep through from being 4 weeks they love their sleep!' And then decides to ramble on about the importance of a good bed time routine or other amazing sleep ideas they can come up with whilst you just zone out wishing that their little darling grows up to be an appalling teen.

Hahaha THIS! Offering all their suggestions as if you haven’t tried everything under the sun to get some sleep.
Do you have a bed time routine? Have you tried white noise? Blah blah blah.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/05/2023 10:32

The OP was " isn't this the hardest thing?" and it's AIBU so personally I think it's OK to say " no actually it isn't".

OP then insisited it must be and if I personally find teenagers tougher, it's due to my parenting.

GneissGuysFinishLast · 05/05/2023 10:33

MammaTo · 05/05/2023 10:22

Yeah it’s absolutely shit.

I particularly hate when people say “ohh these are the best days of your life” or “you’ll miss all this one day”. Hhmmm WILL I REALLY THO?

Whilst I appreciate that it’s probably true, when you’re in the trenches it’s infuriating.

Sending solidarity to the no sleeping club.

This has me laughing 😂

Ive got quite a large age gap (7 years) and I remember the toddler years with my eldest being crap at the time, but I did look back with rose tinted glasses and thought it couldn’t have been THAT bad and maybe, just maybe, it was actually quite lovely.

So I had another baby.

Thar baby is now a toddler.

Its not lovely. It’s as shit as the first time.

Yes, there ARE lovely moments. But also lots of shit ones.

No doubt when this one gets bigger I’ll convince myself it wasn’t really that bad, like I have already done with pregnancy, c sections and recovery, and having a newborn.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 05/05/2023 10:37

MammaTo · 05/05/2023 10:25

Hahaha THIS! Offering all their suggestions as if you haven’t tried everything under the sun to get some sleep.
Do you have a bed time routine? Have you tried white noise? Blah blah blah.

It’s also never a random suggestion either.

I’d understand “oh we accidentally discovered that if you add half an avocado to their dinner they sleep” because it’s not something you’d expect.

Its always “have you got a blackout blind” or “have you tried a set routine?”

Tinybrother · 05/05/2023 10:39

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/05/2023 10:32

The OP was " isn't this the hardest thing?" and it's AIBU so personally I think it's OK to say " no actually it isn't".

OP then insisited it must be and if I personally find teenagers tougher, it's due to my parenting.

Your brain skipped over the “parenting small children” bit

Iheartherain · 05/05/2023 10:40

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/05/2023 10:32

The OP was " isn't this the hardest thing?" and it's AIBU so personally I think it's OK to say " no actually it isn't".

OP then insisited it must be and if I personally find teenagers tougher, it's due to my parenting.

If you’d explained you are unable to read full sentences I wouldn’t have been so snappy Flowers

OP posts:
User1706 · 05/05/2023 10:40

lottie2888 · 05/05/2023 08:22

It does get better. It just seems like there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Pre kids I did a job where I worked nights so I thought ‘ this is going to be a walk in the park ‘ nothing prepares you for the exhaustion.
sometimes I wonder if people who tell you they love having little children are lying. I certainly didn’t enjoy it. I look back at instances and thought that was nice but day to day the grind never ends.

In ten years when yours won’t get out of bed but you are no longer able to sleep in then just make sure to hoover outside their room every Sunday morning at 6am.

@Saniflo thats hilarious!!!!!! Inspired even!

My grandparents did this to my mum and her siblings. My mum said on Sunday mornings after she'd had a night out, my grandma would vac the house making sure to 'accidentally' bash all the bedroom doors whilst my (partially deaf so very loud) grandad sang Elvis in the shower. 😂😂😂

Tinybrother · 05/05/2023 10:41

There are other parts of parenting small children that may be tougher for different people of course. I have to say that early rising isn’t so much of an issue for me because mine like to come into bed with me for a cuddle - they aren’t up for a party. I always feel so sorry for the people with babies that want a 3-hr party in the middle of the night - one of mine woke every 45 minutes of the night for 18 months but I could remain horizontal the whole time. Likewise at 5am mine come into my bed and let me doze, so I feel pretty lucky about that.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/05/2023 10:42

So the worst bit of small children, maybe but like others I'd give the prize to the 2am vomit of people too young to make it to the bathroom.

Iheartherain · 05/05/2023 10:55

Sure, and that happens every single day, doesn’t it? Without fail. Totally.

OP posts:
Neurodiversitydoctor · 05/05/2023 10:59

Iheartherain · 05/05/2023 10:55

Sure, and that happens every single day, doesn’t it? Without fail. Totally.

Are you OK OP ? Really? you seem very angry about this and absolutely determined that this is the worst thing in the world. It isn't, it's fairly common, it can be tweaked but probably only fixed with time.

Good sleep, good food and good coffee may make you feel better about this. I would add regular exercise and taking a multi vit if you can. You can do this honestly.

TakingTheCake · 05/05/2023 10:59

YES this is definitely one of the big ones.

Life would be so much easier all round if little ones slept until a reasonable hour!

Same with the tired/sugar/fat struggle.

Bunnycat101 · 05/05/2023 11:02

The thing that strikes me from your posts is that you 2yo is knackered so actually doesn’t seem to thrive on the 5am wakings. Some children are naturally wired that way and will always be early risers but it doesn’t necessarily sound like it’s the natural preference here. That might mean your DS does start to grow out of it or there is something you might be able to alter. Ive got one night owl and she’s a disaster in the morning (but is still jumping around at 9pm) and one lark who is her best self first thing.

HerrickForever · 05/05/2023 11:05

Loafbeginsat60 · 05/05/2023 05:33

It is shit definitely but they do sleep later as they get older. It will come...

I think the worst thing is d&v when they both have it at the same time and you only have one loo personally 😂

Yep. In my case, a 2yo, a 3yo and me, all with D&V and only one loo.

Hell. Pure hell.

Allthenaughtydogs · 05/05/2023 11:05

Reading this thread reminds me I made the best decision not to have children.
I can do what I like, when I like and sleep whenever…… I don’t understand why people do it?
And I’m 40’s, so not some young thing whose biological clock is yet to tick……..

Comedycook · 05/05/2023 11:07

Allthenaughtydogs · 05/05/2023 11:05

Reading this thread reminds me I made the best decision not to have children.
I can do what I like, when I like and sleep whenever…… I don’t understand why people do it?
And I’m 40’s, so not some young thing whose biological clock is yet to tick……..

Good for you. The sleepless nights and early mornings are short lived. Perhaps when the op is a elderly woman with adult children and grandchildren around to support her, she will say it's all been worth it.

Allthenaughtydogs · 05/05/2023 11:14

@Comedycook if you have kids so they can ‘support you’ when you’re older, that strikes me as a very poor decision.
There’s no guarantee they would even stay in the same country!