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Original poster

To think I can’t be bothered to fight for a £25K a year job?

73 replies

Teamscreen · 04/05/2023 15:32

My manager lied and said I’d nothing all year (if that was the case he never told that to me, sent warnings and rightfully I would have been sacked but I never even had an informal/formal meetings). The head of department has a very bad view of me having only heard my manager lie to save his poor actions of not training me.

I did work, but it’s a struggle when you’re self trained in a role you’ve never done before. My manager never checked my work, never asked me what projects I was doing etc.

I have now been told I need to show I’m worth employing, I need to put in extra work, go above and beyond and I might be lucky enough to be rated as average. Literally. Like they want to me to fight for something that I’m being paid for £12K below the average of that job.

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Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:34

and rightfully I would have been sacked

interesting

MXVIT · 04/05/2023 15:34

Leave then

AMuser · 04/05/2023 15:35

Sorry I can’t understand what you’re saying. It’s like your post starts in the middle of a conversation.

OriginalUsername2 · 04/05/2023 15:39

I had the same experience at a similar wage. Worked to the bone as a “trainee assistant manager” but the managers above were always putting off my training until less busier times ahead. Then when other managers covered I looked like an idiot for having no idea how to do certain managerial tasks.

I can’t deal with any of that bs anymore. Can you go self-employed?

monotonemusings · 04/05/2023 15:42

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:34

and rightfully I would have been sacked

interesting

OP is saying if that were the case

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:43

Suggests to me the OP recognises that had due process been followed… she knows she’d have been out on her ear

monotonemusings · 04/05/2023 15:43

AMuser · 04/05/2023 15:35

Sorry I can’t understand what you’re saying. It’s like your post starts in the middle of a conversation.

It makes perfect sense. OP has missed the word "done" but it makes sense. Try reading it again?

EmmaEmerald · 04/05/2023 15:44

AMuser · 04/05/2023 15:35

Sorry I can’t understand what you’re saying. It’s like your post starts in the middle of a conversation.

Yes, I thought that too, did you miss part of it out? How did this all start?

I sympathise, job stress is the pits.

Woopzies · 04/05/2023 15:45

monotonemusings · 04/05/2023 15:43

It makes perfect sense. OP has missed the word "done" but it makes sense. Try reading it again?

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"My manager lied and said I’d nothing all year"
What is this even supposed to mean?!

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:46

Absolutely nothing In writing from him suggesting a meeting to discuss performance? Nothing in writing to suggest unhappy with performance and addressing it? Nothing?

Original poster
Teamscreen · 04/05/2023 15:46

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:34

and rightfully I would have been sacked

interesting

If someone doesn’t do their job then on a very basic level without looking into every external reasons then they should be managed out of the company.

Whys that interesting?

OP posts:
Clarinet1 · 04/05/2023 15:47

I think you have two options - either you take uo
the lack of training and supervision with HR or with the Head of Department who sounds sympathetic or you look elsewhere.

Original poster
Teamscreen · 04/05/2023 15:47

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:46

Absolutely nothing In writing from him suggesting a meeting to discuss performance? Nothing in writing to suggest unhappy with performance and addressing it? Nothing?

No. Genuinely nothing.

OP posts:
Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:48

Ok so essentially he’s now said… you need to improve your performance?

has he said this in writing!?

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:48

How long have you been there?

Original poster
Teamscreen · 04/05/2023 15:49

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:43

Suggests to me the OP recognises that had due process been followed… she knows she’d have been out on her ear

No, I’d expect an investigation, formal meetings, being put on a plan, had warnings if I’d been shit and job and sat there and done nothing all year.

You can’t be “out on your ear” unless gross misconduct is found.

OP posts:
Original poster
Teamscreen · 04/05/2023 15:51

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:48

Ok so essentially he’s now said… you need to improve your performance?

has he said this in writing!?

No I went to him and told him I wasn’t happy and then he’s gone to his manager and head of department and told them I’m bad at my job and do nothing.

His manager has backed him up, despite him and me having never worked together or me ever reporting into him. So he would have genuinely no idea if I was shit or amazing.

OP posts:
Kazzyhoward · 04/05/2023 15:53

Perhaps you're being paid £12k under the average because you clearly can't do the job. Sounds like you're on a "trainee" wage whilst you're learning how to do it.

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:55

Teamscreen · 04/05/2023 15:49

No, I’d expect an investigation, formal meetings, being put on a plan, had warnings if I’d been shit and job and sat there and done nothing all year.

You can’t be “out on your ear” unless gross misconduct is found.

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“Had due process been followed” ie of course employees can be kicked out if due process is followed

you are struggling to understand quite basic posts

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:56

Teamscreen · 04/05/2023 15:51

No I went to him and told him I wasn’t happy and then he’s gone to his manager and head of department and told them I’m bad at my job and do nothing.

His manager has backed him up, despite him and me having never worked together or me ever reporting into him. So he would have genuinely no idea if I was shit or amazing.

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So literally all that has happened is that you’ve been told to pull your socks up sharpish?

Bamboozleme · 04/05/2023 15:56

Are you still on probation?

how long have you been there?

Taptap2 · 04/05/2023 16:08

If you have been there for less than 2 years they can just sack you.

TattiePants · 04/05/2023 16:11

Teamscreen · 04/05/2023 15:49

No, I’d expect an investigation, formal meetings, being put on a plan, had warnings if I’d been shit and job and sat there and done nothing all year.

You can’t be “out on your ear” unless gross misconduct is found.

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Assuming this hasn't been going on for 2 years, you can be let go for any reason (unless there is a protected characteristic). Whilst your manager sounds rubbish, surely you've raised the fact that you haven't been trained and don't know how to do your job repeatedly?

Theunamedcat · 04/05/2023 16:12

Go to another job they can't leave you to your own devises for a year and say hang on a minute we think your shit prove to me otherwise that is seriously bad management

tfresh · 04/05/2023 16:15

OP if your work performance is anything like your posts here, I can see why you're having issues.

How about you write using sentences and paragraphs the actual problem, and maybe people could help you

Or even try that at work!