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Does my friend have a crush on me or am I overthinking things?

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SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 06:43

I am so sorry this story is long. But if you want in on my life drama please enjoy!

I am 33F I have an opposite sex best friend 25M whom I’ve been friends with for five years we will call him Joe. I am married and have been madly in love with my husband 32M for 15 years and would never dream in a million years of leaving him. We are very happy together.

I am from Louisiana but I moved to the UK and became a citizen and live here with my husband and had a daughter with him about a year and a half ago.

Joe is also from Louisiana and he and I still play video games on playstation and chat on discord pretty regularly and have a gaming friend group and we hang out with but sometimes chat alone.

The thing is a few years ago Joe met a woman who was married and kept calling her hot and saying he wanted to date her. I commented on it and told him maybe it wasn’t a good idea since she was married because it might cause drama. He said “Yeah that’s the problem though. Everyone I am attracted to seems to be married. She said she’s unhappy with her marriage so I think I’m going to go for it.”

I figured it was none of my business so I said nothing else. But I thought it was weird that he said EVERYONE he likes is married because he never mentioned any other married women before.

We share selfies and pictures of our families, pets, gamer computers and art projects on discord and I shared a picture of myself after getting a new haircut and several of the boys commented that I was hot and Joe said “Wow I’m speechless.” We are the type of group that makes a lot of adult jokes and stuff and sometimes the guys drink too much and say stupid things. The guys comment on the girls pictures saying they are hot all the time. So I don’t really think I’m anything special. They’re just being guys.

During our gamer sessions he would often bring up the fact that he’s into the married girls and it’s a really big problem. There were times I felt like he was flirting with me but no one single incident that I could describe really. I had a really weird gut feeling about it so I went with my instincts and made a comment that he’s got a girlfriend now so he doesn’t need to worry about that.

Joe and his girlfriend dated for a few months and then she left him to try and repair her marriage. He was really devastated. I tried to support my friend but there was something that made me feel alarm bells going off. I knew he was really depressed about the break up but I felt like he was leaning on me in a way that was… how do I put it… unfair to my spouse I guess? I hope that makes sense. Joe would message me at like 3am and want me to call him and he would be sobbing on the phone and it would take me 2-3 hours to calm him down. I did this about 4 times until my husband commented on it and then I started distancing myself from it.

But Joe would say things like “I’m just falling apart. I don’t see any point in my own life.”

I would pretend like I didn’t see the discord messages because I was asleep but I felt really guilty about it.

Eventually I became pregnant and the pregnancy made me so sick that I kind of dropped off the face of the earth because I was having too many medical problems. I told my friends. They congratulated me and wished me well. We stopped talking for over a year because of it.

I got in touch with my friends group again and they welcomed me back. Another friend I will call Will updated me on everyone. When he got around to Joe he said “Joe’s not doing too well. Shortly after you left he changed and had a huge break down.” I felt really bad because I remember he was in a bad place but I felt like he should have gotten over the break up by now.

I talked to him and he said he was doing well but something was off about him. He mentioned he wasn’t sleeping well because of the nightmares. A few months went by and he would ask how I was doing and how the baby was. I would send pictures here and there but one situation sat weird with me. He said he had a nightmare but couldn’t remember it just as I sent a picture of my husband playing with the baby holding her up in a reusable shopping bag. He then said “Oh I remember! It was about this horrible giant four armed monster with two legs. It looked like a spider but had two heads and one was the face of a baby with a huge grin and it was eating all of my hopes and dreams!”

I… reread the “nightmare”. I looked at the picture. Four arms were visible. The baby’s legs were in the bag. Husbands legs were visible. Two heads were visible… One was a baby.

Why… what? Was it a coincidence? If not why would he be this indirect? I literally laid this all out for my husband. He said it was a weird coincidence but he thinks I’m over thinking things. I convinced myself he was right but it just… feels like more…?

I laughed it all off and didn’t say anything. I started slowly finding time between new parenthood and gaming at night and Joe seems himself slowly again. He starts making jabs that he’s still into married women and even his physical therapist. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤨 I tell him he’s a glutton for punishment. He laughs.

He then starts making jokes about how he’s kind of into single moms now… Why am I getting that nagging feeling in the pit of my stomach again?

Over time he starts talking about how great Louisiana is and how I should move back and talking about how terrible the weather in the UK is compared to there. It feels like it’s been escalating lately. The thing that’s made me really convinced it’s not in my head is recently he said he’s thinking about picking up a single mom.

I really have no interest in dating Joe. He is my best friend and I want it to stay that west. But I worry I’m like… somehow stringing him along without realizing it?

But if I confront him I’m worried our friendship won’t survive.

I know not everyone will get it but I really love hanging out with Joe as friends and we go way back. But if my instincts are true I’m a bit concerned about two things.

  1. That would mean he doesn’t respect my marriage.
  2. It would imply he’s had a crush on me for years and he’s potentially holding out waiting for my marriage to fall apart and he’s totally wasting his time, energy and emotions.

aibu to think that Joe likes me?
Yabu - you’re reading way too much into it. Joe doesn’t like you stop being so self centred.
yanbu - Joe has a crush on you how are you this clueless?

If I am not being unreasonable what is the best course of action? Do I just ignore it and hope he comes to the conclusion to give up on his own? Or do I say something to him and tell him to give up?

OP posts:
Gtsr443 · 02/05/2023 06:47

If he's such an old friend why don't you just ask him if he fancies you?

VioletPickles · 02/05/2023 06:47

Err I think you should give Joe a wide berth. Focus on your family and cultivating other friendships.

Creepyrosemary · 02/05/2023 06:48

But if I confront him I’m worried our friendship won’t survive.

But that would be best for his future though. He can't move on and become happy if he is and stays in love with you.

shysquirrel · 02/05/2023 06:49

To be honest, it kind of sounds like YOU have a crush on Joe. There's a weird dynamic where you're messaging him in the middle of the night until your DH calls you out.

februarysunset · 02/05/2023 06:52

I think you're loving the attention and I think this thread is an extension of that attention-seeking.

The obvious thing to do is to distance yourself. The fact you've managed to keep this weird friendship going across the Atlantic all this time is because you've wanted it to continue.

Mortimercat · 02/05/2023 06:53

shysquirrel · 02/05/2023 06:49

To be honest, it kind of sounds like YOU have a crush on Joe. There's a weird dynamic where you're messaging him in the middle of the night until your DH calls you out.

That is what I was thinking! 😊

Pahpahpotato · 02/05/2023 06:53

Absolutely agree with PP who have pointed out you love the drama and thrive on attention (posting your picture so ‘the guys’ could all call you hot is teenage shit)
You have no respect for your husband or your family or you’d have ended this ‘friendship’ a long time ago. Ps it’s not a friendship.

AbsoIutelyLovely · 02/05/2023 06:54

He’s an immature weirdo.

Goingthere · 02/05/2023 06:58

shysquirrel · 02/05/2023 06:49

To be honest, it kind of sounds like YOU have a crush on Joe. There's a weird dynamic where you're messaging him in the middle of the night until your DH calls you out.

Yep!

MushMonster · 02/05/2023 07:01

Time to let go. Wish him good lyck and step miles away!

MushMonster · 02/05/2023 07:03

Luck! Lol

flumpalamp · 02/05/2023 07:04

Pahpahpotato · 02/05/2023 06:53

Absolutely agree with PP who have pointed out you love the drama and thrive on attention (posting your picture so ‘the guys’ could all call you hot is teenage shit)
You have no respect for your husband or your family or you’d have ended this ‘friendship’ a long time ago. Ps it’s not a friendship.

Yup

Ludlow2 · 02/05/2023 07:08

SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 06:43

I am so sorry this story is long. But if you want in on my life drama please enjoy!

I am 33F I have an opposite sex best friend 25M whom I’ve been friends with for five years we will call him Joe. I am married and have been madly in love with my husband 32M for 15 years and would never dream in a million years of leaving him. We are very happy together.

I am from Louisiana but I moved to the UK and became a citizen and live here with my husband and had a daughter with him about a year and a half ago.

Joe is also from Louisiana and he and I still play video games on playstation and chat on discord pretty regularly and have a gaming friend group and we hang out with but sometimes chat alone.

The thing is a few years ago Joe met a woman who was married and kept calling her hot and saying he wanted to date her. I commented on it and told him maybe it wasn’t a good idea since she was married because it might cause drama. He said “Yeah that’s the problem though. Everyone I am attracted to seems to be married. She said she’s unhappy with her marriage so I think I’m going to go for it.”

I figured it was none of my business so I said nothing else. But I thought it was weird that he said EVERYONE he likes is married because he never mentioned any other married women before.

We share selfies and pictures of our families, pets, gamer computers and art projects on discord and I shared a picture of myself after getting a new haircut and several of the boys commented that I was hot and Joe said “Wow I’m speechless.” We are the type of group that makes a lot of adult jokes and stuff and sometimes the guys drink too much and say stupid things. The guys comment on the girls pictures saying they are hot all the time. So I don’t really think I’m anything special. They’re just being guys.

During our gamer sessions he would often bring up the fact that he’s into the married girls and it’s a really big problem. There were times I felt like he was flirting with me but no one single incident that I could describe really. I had a really weird gut feeling about it so I went with my instincts and made a comment that he’s got a girlfriend now so he doesn’t need to worry about that.

Joe and his girlfriend dated for a few months and then she left him to try and repair her marriage. He was really devastated. I tried to support my friend but there was something that made me feel alarm bells going off. I knew he was really depressed about the break up but I felt like he was leaning on me in a way that was… how do I put it… unfair to my spouse I guess? I hope that makes sense. Joe would message me at like 3am and want me to call him and he would be sobbing on the phone and it would take me 2-3 hours to calm him down. I did this about 4 times until my husband commented on it and then I started distancing myself from it.

But Joe would say things like “I’m just falling apart. I don’t see any point in my own life.”

I would pretend like I didn’t see the discord messages because I was asleep but I felt really guilty about it.

Eventually I became pregnant and the pregnancy made me so sick that I kind of dropped off the face of the earth because I was having too many medical problems. I told my friends. They congratulated me and wished me well. We stopped talking for over a year because of it.

I got in touch with my friends group again and they welcomed me back. Another friend I will call Will updated me on everyone. When he got around to Joe he said “Joe’s not doing too well. Shortly after you left he changed and had a huge break down.” I felt really bad because I remember he was in a bad place but I felt like he should have gotten over the break up by now.

I talked to him and he said he was doing well but something was off about him. He mentioned he wasn’t sleeping well because of the nightmares. A few months went by and he would ask how I was doing and how the baby was. I would send pictures here and there but one situation sat weird with me. He said he had a nightmare but couldn’t remember it just as I sent a picture of my husband playing with the baby holding her up in a reusable shopping bag. He then said “Oh I remember! It was about this horrible giant four armed monster with two legs. It looked like a spider but had two heads and one was the face of a baby with a huge grin and it was eating all of my hopes and dreams!”

I… reread the “nightmare”. I looked at the picture. Four arms were visible. The baby’s legs were in the bag. Husbands legs were visible. Two heads were visible… One was a baby.

Why… what? Was it a coincidence? If not why would he be this indirect? I literally laid this all out for my husband. He said it was a weird coincidence but he thinks I’m over thinking things. I convinced myself he was right but it just… feels like more…?

I laughed it all off and didn’t say anything. I started slowly finding time between new parenthood and gaming at night and Joe seems himself slowly again. He starts making jabs that he’s still into married women and even his physical therapist. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤨 I tell him he’s a glutton for punishment. He laughs.

He then starts making jokes about how he’s kind of into single moms now… Why am I getting that nagging feeling in the pit of my stomach again?

Over time he starts talking about how great Louisiana is and how I should move back and talking about how terrible the weather in the UK is compared to there. It feels like it’s been escalating lately. The thing that’s made me really convinced it’s not in my head is recently he said he’s thinking about picking up a single mom.

I really have no interest in dating Joe. He is my best friend and I want it to stay that west. But I worry I’m like… somehow stringing him along without realizing it?

But if I confront him I’m worried our friendship won’t survive.

I know not everyone will get it but I really love hanging out with Joe as friends and we go way back. But if my instincts are true I’m a bit concerned about two things.

  1. That would mean he doesn’t respect my marriage.
  2. It would imply he’s had a crush on me for years and he’s potentially holding out waiting for my marriage to fall apart and he’s totally wasting his time, energy and emotions.

aibu to think that Joe likes me?
Yabu - you’re reading way too much into it. Joe doesn’t like you stop being so self centred.
yanbu - Joe has a crush on you how are you this clueless?

If I am not being unreasonable what is the best course of action? Do I just ignore it and hope he comes to the conclusion to give up on his own? Or do I say something to him and tell him to give up?

You are over invested in this friendship.
You need to focus on your child and husband who you claim to be madly in love with.

I feel you are are massive part of the problem here.

How can you as a parent have so much time to game??
You sound like a.love struck teenager if I'm honest and this thread is a REVERSE.

Ludlow2 · 02/05/2023 07:12

You are behaving disloyal to your partner.

Does he know what is happening?
Does he agree with you sending his photos.

You sound like you would cheat and are the problem.

Ludlow2 · 02/05/2023 07:14

AbsoIutelyLovely · 02/05/2023 06:54

He’s an immature weirdo.

She is too.
Deserve each other.

SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 07:16

shysquirrel · 02/05/2023 06:49

To be honest, it kind of sounds like YOU have a crush on Joe. There's a weird dynamic where you're messaging him in the middle of the night until your DH calls you out.

I can see why you would think that but that’s not true.

To @Ludlow2 I expected this response because I know it’s easy from a mere snippet of my life to jump to these conclusions. But you are wrong. Joe and my american friends on discord is my connection to my old country and I often get lonely because I don’t have those connections here.

I don’t have hours to game. You assumed that. I game maybe twice a month. When my husband is working I chat on discord or hop in the voice chat.

There are about ten other women in our group and they asked me to post the picture. It was just a haircut not an onlyfans link.

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wombridgewalkabout · 02/05/2023 07:16

Suggest Joe gets therapy to help him work out why he is only attracted to unavailable women. Tell him he’s running away from living his own life by doing this and needs to work out why.

SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 07:17

shysquirrel · 02/05/2023 06:49

To be honest, it kind of sounds like YOU have a crush on Joe. There's a weird dynamic where you're messaging him in the middle of the night until your DH calls you out.

I can see why you would think that but that’s not true.

To @Ludlow2 I expected this response because I know it’s easy from a mere snippet of my life to jump to these conclusions. But you are wrong. Joe and my american friends on discord is my connection to my old country and I often get lonely because I don’t have those connections here.

I don’t have hours to game. You assumed that. I game maybe twice a month IF I AM LUCKY. When my husband is working I chat on discord or hop in the voice chat.

There are about ten other women in our group and they asked me to post the picture. It was just a haircut not an onlyfans link.

OP posts:
SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 07:17

shysquirrel · 02/05/2023 06:49

To be honest, it kind of sounds like YOU have a crush on Joe. There's a weird dynamic where you're messaging him in the middle of the night until your DH calls you out.

I can see why you would think that but that’s not true.

To @Ludlow2 I expected this response because I know it’s easy from a mere snippet of my life to jump to these conclusions. But you are wrong. Joe and my american friends on discord is my connection to my old country and I often get lonely because I don’t have those connections here.

I don’t have hours to game. You assumed that. I game maybe twice a month IF I AM LUCKY. When my husband is working I chat on discord or hop in the voice chat.

There are about ten other women in our group and they asked me to post the picture. It was just a haircut not an onlyfans link.

OP posts:
SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 07:17

shysquirrel · 02/05/2023 06:49

To be honest, it kind of sounds like YOU have a crush on Joe. There's a weird dynamic where you're messaging him in the middle of the night until your DH calls you out.

@shysquirrel I can see why you would think that but that’s not true.

To @Ludlow2 I expected this response because I know it’s easy from a mere snippet of my life to jump to these conclusions. But you are wrong. Joe and my american friends on discord is my connection to my old country and I often get lonely because I don’t have those connections here.

I don’t have hours to game. You assumed that. I game maybe twice a month IF I AM LUCKY. When my husband is working I chat on discord or hop in the voice chat.

There are about ten other women in our group and they asked me to post the picture. It was just a haircut not an onlyfans link.

OP posts:
SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 07:18

shysquirrel · 02/05/2023 06:49

To be honest, it kind of sounds like YOU have a crush on Joe. There's a weird dynamic where you're messaging him in the middle of the night until your DH calls you out.

@shysquirrel I can see why you would think that but that’s not true.

To @Ludlow2 I expected this response because I know it’s easy from a mere snippet of my life to jump to these conclusions. But you are wrong. Joe and my american friends on discord is my connection to my old country and I often get lonely because I don’t have those connections here.

I don’t have hours to game. You assumed that. I game maybe twice a month IF I AM LUCKY. When my husband is working I chat on discord or hop in the voice chat.

There are about ten other women in our group and they asked me to post the picture. It was just a haircut not an onlyfans link.

OP posts:
SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 07:19

@shysquirrel I can see why you would think that but that’s not true.

To @Ludlow2 I expected this response because I know it’s easy from a mere snippet of my life to jump to these conclusions. But you are wrong. Joe and my american friends on discord is my connection to my old country and I often get lonely because I don’t have those connections here.

I don’t have hours to game. You assumed that. I game maybe twice a month IF I AM LUCKY. When my husband is working I chat on discord or hop in the voice chat.

There are about ten other women in our group and they asked me to post the picture. It was just a haircut not an onlyfans link.

OP posts:
SoulCrusher · 02/05/2023 07:19

@shysquirrel I can see why you would think that but that’s not true.

To @Ludlow2 I expected this response because I know it’s easy from a mere snippet of my life to jump to these conclusions. But you are wrong. Joe and my american friends on discord is my connection to my old country and I often get lonely because I don’t have those connections here.

I don’t have hours to game. You assumed that. I game maybe twice a month IF I AM LUCKY. When my husband is working I chat on discord or hop in the voice chat.

There are about ten other women in our group and they asked me to post the picture. It was just a haircut not an onlyfans link.

OP posts:
CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 02/05/2023 07:20

Your whole extremely long, boring, over inflated and self indulgent post, just screams that you are absolutely relishing the (pathetic) drama.

I would be so pissed off if I was your husband and couldn't imagine a scenario speaking to a bloke for 3 hours at 2am, because he's been dumped.

You and Joe both need to get a grip because you both sound really, really annoying.

KittyOuchies · 02/05/2023 07:21

He sounds like a nutcase. A drain on your emotions.

Cut contact.

It's not fair on him but it's definitely not fair on your husband!!