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So fed up of my flat stinking of pot/anti social behaviour

133 replies

IroningThrone · 30/04/2023 21:37

I live in a small block of flats. There's 12 of us, and until recently it's been fine. A new couple moved in and ever since its been hell. A few highlights-

-a screaming argument at 4am that turned physical and was so bad multiple police vans turned up. They have arguments at least once a week but usually more.

  • their dealer accessing the flat courtyard by the back gate, threatening to put their windows in and screaming obscenities until he was dragged away by the police
  • they sit and smoke pot in the communal area/stairs and it stinks to the point i dread bringing my kids in. They've just been smoking it and now my flat also stinks (for context, the front door is about 2m from my bedroom door and i can smell it in my bed.) If i dry anything innthe hall, it stinks too (to the point I was pulled aside at work about it!)
  • they jam both the back security gate and the main (key fobbed) security doors open so their druggie mates can get in. I've had stuff stolen from my post box (they're locked but it was forced open)

I've just had to put my uniform back in the wash because I had the airer in the hall and it all stinks. I'm so fucking fed up of them being selfish and generally disruptive twats. I'm sick of ringing the police because they're fighting again or one of their mates is trying to break into the place. It's so bad I'm actually scared to be in the communal areas when they're in them.

Wibu to speak to to Thirteen? (Social housing, though in a smaller "decent/nice" area). I'm unfortunately not in a position where I could move. (pic is of my hall to show the space - please don't judge the carpet, I'm waiting for my new hoover to arrive!)

So fed up of my flat stinking of pot/anti social behaviour
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Nimbostratus100 · 01/05/2023 00:21

YouWonJayne · 30/04/2023 23:49

They really are the worst. They always claim it’s better than booze - BIL spouts crap about “no one ever died from smoking weed” and “it doesn’t affect me at all” yet cannot link his manic depression and serious paranoia to his weed smoking.

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really? if hed like me to show him the graves of a few people I know who have died from smoking weed, I'd be happy to

Northernsouloldies · 01/05/2023 00:33

Ivesaidenough · 01/05/2023 00:20

I also think this is a thinly disguised Keyansier. He has some unusual views.

Hope that wasn't about me?. I was backing up op, we have neighbours who are of the ilk and they are a pita. Apologies in advance if I have misunderstood.

YouWonJayne · 01/05/2023 00:35

Northernsouloldies · 01/05/2023 00:33

Hope that wasn't about me?. I was backing up op, we have neighbours who are of the ilk and they are a pita. Apologies in advance if I have misunderstood.

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They’re referring to Keyan name changing from Keyansier

Northernsouloldies · 01/05/2023 00:38

Cheers, I wasn't wanting lumped into that category.

MouseMinge · 01/05/2023 00:40

@IroningThrone you're clearly not being unreasonable, despite one poster deciding to be a total arsehole about it. You do need to get onto the social housing people. It may take time because unfortunately, these things do, but you should get some help. Keep pushing if they're being slow about it. No one should have to live like this and I'm so sorry you're having to deal with utter fuckers as neighbours.

Murdoch1949 · 01/05/2023 05:24

I'd be constantly complaining to the housing association about this. They have a tenant whom is causing a problem to the neighbours and needs to be warned of their behaviour.

mischlerischler · 01/05/2023 05:33

I would 100% complain. They sound awful.

PP who thinks they sound nice - you must be an awful neighbor. Domestic violence is never nice. No one would want to live around people like that.

ThinWomansBrain · 01/05/2023 05:54

Get in touch with the housing association - as a PP suggested, encourage other neighbours to as well. It sounds hellish.

loislovesstewie · 01/05/2023 06:22

Keep a diary of all incidents, speak to the HA about the anti-social behaviour. Legally a tenant is responsible for the behaviour of guests in their home ,so that is another point you should mention. Neither should they be leaving communal doors open or unsafe . It might take a while for action to be taken as the HA will need cast -iron evidence of issues in order to issue notice and obtain a PO. But you are entitled to quiet enjoyment of your home and that is not what you are getting. If you had no issues prior to them moving in, that mention that. I haven't read the whole thread , but do they have children? If they have the police have hopefully alerted social services to the violence etc.

Lostmary · 01/05/2023 06:25

@Keyan when this many people are telling you you’re wrong it’s probably best to notice the consensus.

OP YANBU at all. I think sometimes people forget that weed is a class B drug and therefore it’s unacceptable to subject others to it regardless of what your personal opinion on smoking weed is. I’m very much in the decriminalisation camp, despite not smoking it myself, but it’s illegal and therefore unacceptable. Your neighbours are clearly scumbags and not just for the weed smoking.

FeltedDogs · 01/05/2023 06:29

Do the police not bother with dealers anymore? I might be being thick, haven't lived in the UK for years but surely they should be interested?

OP they sound like utter scum, film, keep a record and demand better for your children. I'm so sorry you would have to live like this

Comfywumfy · 01/05/2023 07:09

YouWonJayne · 30/04/2023 23:47

It’s a bit weird that @Keyan thinks this behaviour is fine but on another thread tonight told an OP to call the police because her neighbours were drilling at 7.30pm

Sorry, off topic but do you have a link to the drilling thread? I can’t figure out how to see what posters have previously commented on

Rightsraptor · 01/05/2023 07:10

Keyan was determined to get in first and probably hoped to steer the conversation their way. Didn't work.

I'm not surprised you are angry about this, OP. These horrible people are putting you at risk. It's not unknown for drug dealers to kick in the door of the wrong flat. On a day to day basis, putting up with the stink of weed is something I couldn't do.

As others have said, keep a diary. It's good that there's been police involvement as that makes a stronger case against these appalling people. It'll take the housing association or whoever ages to get them out though, if they bother with it. You have a battle on your hands. Poor you, I'm so sorry you have to live like that.

TheaBrandt · 01/05/2023 07:30

That poor child in Liverpool was shot in her home by drug dealers who were nothing to do with her or her mum.

Living the scummy druggy lifestyle and associating with lowlifes who then bother your neighbours is entirely your own fault. Boggling at the view that they can’t be blamed for their dealer’s behaviour! Can only conclude that poster is simply a contrarian or a bored teen on the wind up.

LakieLady · 01/05/2023 07:42

HauntedPencil · 30/04/2023 22:29

The line " they can't help it if their dealer screams obscenities" is not one you read daily is it

I'd have thought that was pretty easy to prevent tbh: give up the drugs so you don't have a dealer.

I'd complain and complain, OP. Keep a "nuisance diary" and report it all. All the better if your neighbours do the same.

If they've only moved in recently, they may be on an introductory and if, so, it will be much easier for the HA to get shot of them.

Florissant · 01/05/2023 07:45

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Desperatelyseekingcommonsense · 01/05/2023 07:48

I think it sounds awful OP. I’ve lived in a block like that ( thankfully pre kids) and the drug users have a massive negative impact on everyone around them.

Id complain to the HA, local councillor and MP and hopefully they will be moved / evicted. Sometimes there is a belief with housing officers that you spread out the bad tenants, that way their neighbours will have a positive effect and they will become less problematic. It’s a lovely theory never actually heard of it working but heard multiple complaints about the negative effects.

My top tip if you want a council to take action is put in a Freedom of information request. They are expensive, they hate them and they can not be ignored.

DisquietintheRanks · 01/05/2023 07:55

NeatCompactSleeper · 30/04/2023 22:41

Aww diddums.

Seriously? Where do you live that the neighbours are quite chill about this sort of behaviour? Sympathy OP- it sounds grim.

LakieLady · 01/05/2023 07:56

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If they were "nice people" they wouldn't be behaving in the way that they are.

Giselletheunicorn · 01/05/2023 08:01

I can't believe there are people here minimising this! The OP has young kids, there are drug dealers wandering around her building, her clothes stink of weed and vans of police turning up in the early hours. Of course it's unpleasant and stressful!

Agree with one of the other posts, OP. Keep a diary of what goes down and speak to housing association.

TheaBrandt · 01/05/2023 08:03

Yeah I totally looked down my nose at our hell neighbours after two years of it. I used to be quite left wing til I lived next door to them. Your “nicey nicey be kind they can’t help it I’m quite left wing and such a nice person” drains away pretty fast living cheek by jowl with people like that.

Irequireausername · 01/05/2023 08:16

If they're council tenants, report them to the council. In my experience they'll eventually be moved, especially if multiple people complain.

Greenfairydust · 01/05/2023 08:19

''@Keyan · Yesterday 22:16
I can see both sides to this. One on hand, you sound like a serial complainer (sorry, but it's hot it comes across to me). That can be annoying in itself.''

Don't be daft...

The neighbours' behaviour is totally unacceptable.

Any decent person would not want to live in that environment.

I assume you are yourself partial to some of the activities described by the OP because that could be the only reason for thinking potheads and dealers messing up the place for everyone else is acceptable...

Back to you OP: make a firm complaint to the freeholder of the flat (housing association?).

The tenants behaviour breaches the condition of their tenancy and they should be evicted.

Coffeeandbourbons · 01/05/2023 08:21

Just because you don't like their choice of activity - they may not like yours either

Theyre taking drugs for fucks sake! That’s not an ‘activity’ that’s illegal.

YANBU