Page 8 | To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

Kedfs · 2023-04-30T08:13:17+00:00

When there are people reliant on food banks to survive and we are told that there is no money to pay for nurses and teachers pay rises? Whatever your thoughts are on having a monarchy, having a coronation is unnecessary and was abandoned by other monarchies years ago. If he really wants one, can’t he pay for it himself, given that he has billions of pounds?

mumda · 30/04/2023 15:55

President Blair.

Convinced it's money well spent yet?

Fandabedodgy · 30/04/2023 15:55

It will generate far more than that in tourist revenue both for the actual coronation and resulting bookings.

PrettyMaybug · 30/04/2023 15:57

If it actually IS costing £250 million for the Coronation, that's not that much really, when you think we used to give £350 million a WEEK to that cliquey, corrupt 'boys club' ... The EU.

And we haven't spent any money on any Coronation for 71 fecking years.

YABU. And so is anyone agreeing with you What a daft thing to get worked up about.

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 15:58

kitsuneghost · 30/04/2023 15:34

Do you realise how little 250m is in the grand scheme of the economy? That is less than £7 per household. The benefits bill (every year) is 216 billion.

Maybe.

But how GRAND it would be if the King said - you know what? I will livestream the crown bit, sacrafice the rest of my big day and DONATE that money to XXXXX.

Bet he would be popular then...

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 16:02

PrettyMaybug · 30/04/2023 15:54

@MidgeHardcastle

Interesting that people gnash their teeth over the cost of royal events then are completely disinterested in the revenue/profit afterwards. I suppose there's no frothing to be had that's why...

This. ^ Selective hearing, and very typical of the toxic far-left frothers.

Actually I am really interested in the profit afterwrads.

Problem is THERE ARE NO NUMBERS!

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 16:04

mumda · 30/04/2023 15:55

President Blair.

Convinced it's money well spent yet?

President David Attenborough

Convinced it's money well spent yet?

JenniferBooth · 30/04/2023 16:06

A bank holiday Saturday is going to cost people money Money to get to work because public transport wont be running. So many who work in retail etc will yet again have to fork out for taxis at time and a half like they did for the Platinum Jubilee and the Queens funeral as well as all the usual bank hols. If Charles had chosen tomorrow as Coronation Day it would have at least shown some awareness of this as tomorrow is a usual bank hol anyway.

DownNative · 30/04/2023 16:08

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 15:15

The Royal Family is very much part and parcel of UK soft power, tbh.

What are you talking about?

P&PoW got booed at an American sports event in Boston.

Actually got booed.

Their tour of the Caribbean was an utter disaster.

Our actors and creatives do a hell of a lot more for our soft power than the Family.

Lets throw the money there instead? Or at research and developemnt?

Or - jsut ask them to stop SPENDING and COSTING so much money at this time.

This is an extradordinary and expensive ego trip.

There are elements of "let them eat cake" here or Neros games.

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What are YOU talking about?!

The Coronation will have leaders from around the world attending and the King has already met foreign leaders last year.

Did you miss the news about his successful trip to the Federal Republic of Germany not too long ago?!

Large crowds!

No doubt President Biden will meet the Royal Monarch when he makes his State visit in June as his predecessor, President Trump did with the late Queen Elizabeth II.

Now....check out the Soft Power Global Rankings before you spout biased to God tripe....🤦‍♂️

To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

Florenz · 30/04/2023 16:08

Saturday isn't a bank holiday.

DownNative · 30/04/2023 16:15

Of course, all the condolences when the Queen passed demonstrates UK soft power. She was a credit to us all.

IcedPurple · 30/04/2023 16:58

Harebrain · 30/04/2023 10:19

Rather than asking us all to take part in a “great help out” it would have been nice if he’d put the cost of his coronation towards good causes and had a small, family event.

But it's not a family event. It's a state event.

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 16:59

DownNative · 30/04/2023 16:08

What are YOU talking about?!

The Coronation will have leaders from around the world attending and the King has already met foreign leaders last year.

Did you miss the news about his successful trip to the Federal Republic of Germany not too long ago?!

Large crowds!

No doubt President Biden will meet the Royal Monarch when he makes his State visit in June as his predecessor, President Trump did with the late Queen Elizabeth II.

Now....check out the Soft Power Global Rankings before you spout biased to God tripe....🤦‍♂️

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Now....check out the Soft Power Global Rankings before you spout biased to God tripe....🤦‍♂️

I invite you to read my post again. I do not dispute that the UK has soft power. I question how much of that power is because of the Royals.

I think it is as well as.

Global leaders will come because that is what global leaders do - they go to each others events. Not because of the Royal Family.

And yes, Biden will get his State dinner. But every country in the world has their version of State dinners.

IcedPurple · 30/04/2023 17:00

Nolosomi · 30/04/2023 10:10

Even if a quarter was spent (paid for by Charlie would be nice and right) there would still be the same revenue - it’s just such a disgusting amount of money to spend.

Do you think American or French presidents should pay for their own inauguration?

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 17:02

IcedPurple · 30/04/2023 17:00

Do you think American or French presidents should pay for their own inauguration?

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False equivalence!

IcedPurple · 30/04/2023 17:05

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 17:02

False equivalence!

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I didn't say the two events were 'equivalent' but they do have similarities.

Both are state events formalising the accession of a Head of State. As such, it is the state who pays for them, not the person being inaugurated or crowned.

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 17:09

IcedPurple · 30/04/2023 17:05

I didn't say the two events were 'equivalent' but they do have similarities.

Both are state events formalising the accession of a Head of State. As such, it is the state who pays for them, not the person being inaugurated or crowned.

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OK - I will bite even though I know you are messing around.

One is ELECTED.

The other is INHERITED.

IcedPurple · 30/04/2023 17:10

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 17:09

OK - I will bite even though I know you are messing around.

One is ELECTED.

The other is INHERITED.

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Which is entirely irrelevant to the point I am making, block capitals or not.

Deadpalm · 30/04/2023 17:13

Everyone is unelected in UK for me 😂 since I can't vote.
Maybe that's why I don't mind royals😂

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 17:23

IcedPurple · 30/04/2023 17:10

Which is entirely irrelevant to the point I am making, block capitals or not.

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I need help here as I do not understand the point you are making?

Should the French President pay for his own ceremony - is that it?

I am not being goady - I really do not understand.

IcedPurple · 30/04/2023 17:24

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 17:23

I need help here as I do not understand the point you are making?

Should the French President pay for his own ceremony - is that it?

I am not being goady - I really do not understand.

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In which case I'll cut and paste from my post above.

"Both are state events formalising the accession of a Head of State. As such, it is the state who pays for them, not the person being inaugurated or crowned."

GuessHowMuchItCost · 30/04/2023 17:26

Even if it’s £250 million, that’s only a few quid per person. But that’s money that goes back into the economy. You have to think where does the £250 million go? It’s not thrown out of the window. It’s to pay the overtme for the police and security staff on the day, to pay for decor, flowers, etc for the abbey, to pay for caterers and buy food for the invited guests, even the robes that have been made have generated income for the people who supplied the material. People act like the country has just burnt a pile of money. In reality, the £250 million will be spread among many ordinary people in many sectors of the economy. Overtime payments, food orders, cleaning, street sweeping, restoration workers for the coronation chair, people who clean jewelry, entertainers, technical work behind the scenes for the broadcast and the concert.

I am more than happy to part with a few quid for these people to work over a bank holiday and get some overtime or extra sales.

Coyoacan · 30/04/2023 17:29

@L1ttledrummergirl

It's not because there is no money. It's because successive governments have wasted money, or outright given it away to family and friends.
The country has been robbed

This

CherryCokeFanatic · 30/04/2023 17:32

GuessHowMuchItCost · 30/04/2023 17:26

Even if it’s £250 million, that’s only a few quid per person. But that’s money that goes back into the economy. You have to think where does the £250 million go? It’s not thrown out of the window. It’s to pay the overtme for the police and security staff on the day, to pay for decor, flowers, etc for the abbey, to pay for caterers and buy food for the invited guests, even the robes that have been made have generated income for the people who supplied the material. People act like the country has just burnt a pile of money. In reality, the £250 million will be spread among many ordinary people in many sectors of the economy. Overtime payments, food orders, cleaning, street sweeping, restoration workers for the coronation chair, people who clean jewelry, entertainers, technical work behind the scenes for the broadcast and the concert.

I am more than happy to part with a few quid for these people to work over a bank holiday and get some overtime or extra sales.

Couldn’t you say the same about any form of government spending. Including pay rises for nurses, teachers and the like. Do you support them?

girlfriend44 · 30/04/2023 17:36

Just sign a book and be done with it.

It's over the top.

DidyouNO · 30/04/2023 17:37

Probably a better way to spend £250m than Nicola Sturgeon wasting the same on ferries. At least the monarch has helped generate most of this money.