To find it hard to believe that the US can find no better presidential candidates than Biden or Trump?

[DisquietintheRanks]

33 million adults and that's the choice? Really?

I am well aware that a country who ended up with Truss as PM is in no position to cast the first stone and Americans must vote as they see fit, but am I the only knew who finds the thought of another Biden/Trump face off profoundly depressing?

The US election process is incredibly unwieldy and time consuming and above all - expensive!! So as pps said, the only presidential contenders are the very rich.

Imho each state should elect its own party with its own leader. The leaders then form a government which meets for national issues in Washington under an overall leader - which leader to be decided by the party which represents the most states.

The public doesn’t vote for the president and therefore no one billionaire has to raise millions to waste time canvassing from state to state.

But some states have half a million people in and some have 40 million. Representing the most states doesn’t mean representing the most people.

Barak and Michelle Obama were not super-rich prior to him becoming President, although they are now.

We seem to be aping a lot of their divisions and hatred.

How ? Its an ideological split a significant proportion of Americans are very religious much more so than here. The republican and Democrats are opposites in every way.

Leave/remain is just one example.

The problem is that it's not a United States. It's a bunch of very diverse States. A child could colour the way most will swing. Throw in religion, abortion, gun control, flyover states with MAGA zeal and professional lobbyists with unlimited funds for ad buy and you get the perfect storm.

Enter Trump. Biden would do well to look at Hillary's defeat.

Just saw this on Twitter

Joe Biden hosted the football team today! He was to be presented with a ball signed by the team, a helmet and a football jersey with his name on it. But Biden grabbed only a sweater and began to wander, looking for a way out.

https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1652368461975134208?s=20

He is behaving like an old man with dementia. Why did he run for the Presidency?

No, that's incorrect as the US has strict requirements in order to be President so it'd make no sense to run if you don't meet them.

Anyone running for office of the US President must be:

1 - a natural-born citizen of the United States

2 - at least 35 years old

3 - have been a resident of the United States of America for at least 14 years.

Kanye West met all of these requirements, ran for office and obviously didn't make it. AFAIK, nobody runs without meeting the requirements.

I don't know. Biden v Trump.
But what about Sunak v Starmer. Macron v Le Pen.
I mean these are two sizeable countries and that's the best they can do?

This is completely illegal under the US Constitution as it stands. Actually, in international law there is no democratic right to secession whatsoever. Almost zero countries accept secession as a democratic right.

The US had a war about 180 years ago that ended any debate over secession, i.e., it's unconstitutional. Another war for secession is not very likely in the United States and the Capitol Hill thing did not spur on secessionist tendencies in the US.

He didn't do that. The tweet you saw showed only a tiny part of the ceremony, and a highly skewed version of events. This is a classic right-wing tactic. (And stop mindlessly repeating the 'dementia' trope - also a right-wing tactic.)

Robert Kennedy is essentially a good man. I don’t think I could say that about any of the other mentioned candidates.
Joe Biden most definitely has dementia or some other degenerative condition going on, and there is a lot of evidence out there to suggest - not leave from his own daughter - that he is in fact a paedophile. Trump is not an admirable person but at least he never showered naked with his teenage daughter. Trump’s children have turned out ok, Biden’s family on the other hand; there is something very wrong there.

Not LEAST from his own daughter*

Joe Biden was actually older when he started his term than Reagan was when he finished.

He'll be 86 by the time he finishes a second term.

I see that Trump’s Republican support just keeps going up, outstripping DeSantis by a fair bit now

All the trials seem to be feeding into that

But why isn’t there another Democrat being built up over Biden?

Trump definitely has dementia and has made it clear that he would like to have sex with his own daughter 🤮🤮🤮

I’m not sure but I think it’s possible Trump will win

His ratings with his base keep going up anyway

Trump a businessman 🤣
he's a con man and a grifter

But how stupid do you have to be to be taken in by him not once but twice?

As well as a con man and a grifter he's also very much the useful idiot, various groups are salivating at the thought of what they could get away with if they can get control of him and have him do their bidding

I can't believe it.

It's a very real prospect that trump could run from a prison cell.

Indeed. One pundit wrote:

“It is a ghastly reality that the only job left that Donald Trump could get in this country is president of the United States.”

And:

“It’s unclear whether there will be time to complete the trial before the November 2024 election. This raises the prospect of having a US president spending his entire term and the rest of his life behind bars. Yes, this really could happen.”

I cringe at the memory of the world cheering when Biden beat Trump. Now Trump looks like a preferable president.