Page 12 | I’ve turned my emergency alert off because I’m such a rebel!

GroovyGangConscript · 23/04/2023 12:10

I'm quite looking forward to it going off.

#Not much happening in my life at the moment

ShowUs · 23/04/2023 12:10

DiscoDragon · 23/04/2023 12:00

How rude! I live in a small village on Dartmoor where most of these fantasy scenarios of impending doom are highly unlikely to ever happen, and even if they do it would be all over social media and the news anyway. If I somehow still manage to miss out on the alert that terrorists have decided to attack our small farming community I'm 100% certain that my family/friends/neighbours would let us know!

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This is what I don’t understand though.

You are ok with getting the information from the news or social media but not a text on your phone?

The news and social media are always behind because it takes time for someone to report on it and get to the area etc.

Social media is faster than the news but you need to be on it at the right time to know anything.

I live in a tiny village in Cornwall and doubt anything will happen here but I still go shopping and leave my village sometimes.

I never thought I could get shot dead whilst in Plymouth.

BurscoughBooths · 23/04/2023 12:11

oOiluvfriendsOo · 23/04/2023 11:50

What about the missing or abducted children that are found through these alerts in countries that currently use it.
Mass hysteria over something that could prove very useful.
Keep it on, turn it off, no need to tell the world......

The government have NOT said it will be used for missing children.

Gov website says:

Reasons you might get an alertYou may get alerts about:

severe flooding
fires
extreme weather

Needmorelego · 23/04/2023 12:11

@Mueslikid a factory fire could be a danger to life though.
I don't know the stats but I believe more people have died of cancer etc from the dust from the World Trade Center collapse on 9/11 than actually died in the buildings.
If a local factory is on fire it could be blowing out all kinds of chemicals in the air.

Jenasaurus · 23/04/2023 12:11

Leftbutcameback · 23/04/2023 12:05

For those who are interested to know what the noise sounds like here it is (from a previous test)

Thanks for sharing this, I found myself watching it a few times! I was weirdly transfixed by the sound. Why do they all go off at different times, is it due to the phones settings?

Parker231 · 23/04/2023 12:11

afterdropshock · 23/04/2023 12:07

I try not to have my phone on me all the time, turn off mobile data and location. So I would likely be at home in the event of my phone going off. I turned it off in protest as I never opted in to this or gave my number willingly. I can understand people sharing how to turn off alerts to share info, or to be an anti establishment voice. Not showing off.

You don’t opt in or give your number. It will have been one of the regular updates on your phone which you consent to by updating your phone.

KvotheTheBloodless · 23/04/2023 12:12

LlynTegid · 23/04/2023 10:10

Mine is off because I object to it being on a Sunday afternoon. I value Sundays being different from the rest of the week and want some of the few differences to remain.

I think it is an attempt by this government to distract you from their failings by timing it just before local elections.

But how on Earth is you having yours off making any kind if difference?! Are you religious, and believe Sunday is a day of rest? I am Catholic and think Sundays should be a day of rest where possible for Christians (I understand not all jobs/lifestyles allow this though), but I doubt even the Pope would have an issue with a test on a Sunday.

As for 'climate lockdowns' - how does a phone alert remotely link in to that? Do you not understand how the technology works?

lidolemon · 23/04/2023 12:13

I have turned mine off. I haven't announced it on FB, or actually discussed it much past my family. I'd prefer to have a system, where you could choose to get a text but not a noise, as well as both, or none.

I fully accept the consequences of that decision.

ShimmeringShirts · 23/04/2023 12:13

@ShowUs its as ridiculous as saying you’d rather not give your child their immunisations in case it “turns them” autistic. The amount of people that would rather dead children than autistic children (or would rather autistic children are put in harms way rather than have them deal with an alarm sound for a second) is ridiculous. Idiocy like that should not be allowed to reproduce.

ShimmeringShirts · 23/04/2023 12:14

And I say that as someone with ASD and two children with ASD and ADHD.

SpeedSnap · 23/04/2023 12:14

KvotheTheBloodless · 23/04/2023 12:12

But how on Earth is you having yours off making any kind if difference?! Are you religious, and believe Sunday is a day of rest? I am Catholic and think Sundays should be a day of rest where possible for Christians (I understand not all jobs/lifestyles allow this though), but I doubt even the Pope would have an issue with a test on a Sunday.

As for 'climate lockdowns' - how does a phone alert remotely link in to that? Do you not understand how the technology works?

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I am laughing at the thought of the Pope shrugging at a trial emergency alert and giving people a side eye for not wanting their day of rest being interrupted.

WhatTheHeckyPeck · 23/04/2023 12:16

Leftbutcameback · 23/04/2023 11:42

Flood warnings are provided on a property basis to people who live in flood risk areas, but not everyone. If there was a severe flood warning it wouldn’t reach tourists or commuters / those travelling. This could be useful in those circumstances.

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But if the emergency alert is area specific then surely those outside of those areas at the time it is issued (tourists and commuters to use your examples), wouldn't get it anyway would they?

Iwantmyoldnameback · 23/04/2023 12:17

SpeedSnap · 23/04/2023 12:08

The IRA sent coded warnings ahead of attacks back in the day.

I remember being turned away from a small bomb by the police.

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They did, where I worked was evacuated and the alarm was different to the normal fire sound. This meant the assembly point was further from the building than usual. It was actually a false alarm to occupy the police while they left the area after shooting a well known personality.

Okunevo · 23/04/2023 12:17

ShowUs · 23/04/2023 12:04

The ridiculing of autistic people and those with mental illnesses on these threads is appalling.

How loud do you think it’s going to be?

The amount of parents who would rather their child be put in harms way rather than deal with a potential, unlikely meltdown is very concerning.

I assume these autistic children never watch TV or play computer games with the sound on, have smoke alarms in their homes, play with other children who tend to scream and shout, go to the cinema or play sports, don’t go to school with other SEND kids or have school bells, never goes in a car incase of someone beeping and don’t leave their homes incase there is a loud noise.

I am autistic, my child is autistic and I work with autistic children.

No one I know will be turning off the alarm because they care about their kid’s safety and it is better that they hear the sound in a non-emergency in the safety of their own homes, than in an emergency when it is much more difficult to cope with a meltdown.

If you have an autistic child you will also have ear defenders which they can wear.

I meant autistic adults and adults with mental illness. It's not just this thread, it's others. People seem to understand when it's a child.

We are all different, if it went off in public I would find that easier, I expect unexpected things to happen when I am out, I accept I can't control everything. My home is my safe space, I don't want it in my home.

CallintheClownies · 23/04/2023 12:18

StupidFaces · 23/04/2023 09:47

Urgh

Facebook … numerous posts over the last days consisting of:

“EMERGENCY ALERT SWITCHED OFF!!”

“Leaving my emergency alert on so I can reply and tell them to go and fuck themselves!”

“Remember everyone, emergency alerts can and should be switched off by tomorrow!”

“That’s my emergency alert turned off lol”

Why??? What’s so big and clever about turning the alert off? Don’t people realise that most countries have had this for years? Turning it off doesn’t make you Billy Big Bollocks and boasting about it just makes you look stupid!

YABU - I’ve turned mine off and I’m proud of it! Down with the establishment!

YANBU - people are ridiculous

Wow. Would you like a medal?

ShowUs · 23/04/2023 12:18

DiscoDragon · 23/04/2023 12:10

I have no idea how loud it's going to be and that's the problem! My son doesn't get distressed by all loud noises but he gets very panicked when there are siren/alarm type noises like our smoke alarm. I just don't see the need to willingly subject him (or myself) to that for no good reason. There is no threat to my childs safety, it's only a stupid test today!

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He can wear ear defenders though which I will have at the ready just incase it’s excruciatingly loud, which I doubt it will be.

Surely you test your smoke alarms?

It is always better to hear these noises in a non-emergency.

At my SEND school we regularly have fire alarm drills to desensitise the students to the noise and reduce the amount of meltdowns.
I can’t imagine what would happen if there was an actual fire and they had a meltdown and refused to leave the building because they hadn’t heard the noise before.

ThankmelaterOkay · 23/04/2023 12:18

Nocutenamesleft · 23/04/2023 12:03

Hahah. It could also reveal husband secret phones……

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Either way, domestic violence spike coming up.

DiscoDragon · 23/04/2023 12:19

ShowUs · 23/04/2023 12:10

This is what I don’t understand though.

You are ok with getting the information from the news or social media but not a text on your phone?

The news and social media are always behind because it takes time for someone to report on it and get to the area etc.

Social media is faster than the news but you need to be on it at the right time to know anything.

I live in a tiny village in Cornwall and doubt anything will happen here but I still go shopping and leave my village sometimes.

I never thought I could get shot dead whilst in Plymouth.

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Firstly, I barely use my mobile phone as mobile reception where I live is appalling. Most of the time it's sitting with a flat battery somewhere in the house. Secondly, social media and news sites don't honk loudly at me! Also my parents and family who live close to us are able to understand that their grandson/nephew hates loud noises and so I've opted out of these alerts and they would let us know straight away if there was some emergency that we needed to be aware of.

MobyJeff · 23/04/2023 12:19

SirTarquin · 23/04/2023 12:04

Seems a load of fuss about nothing really.

Biggest use of emergency alerts is extreme weather which we don't really have here in the sense of tornados or tsunamis appearing out of nowhere. Most extreme weather here is pre-warned via forecast several days in advance.

Terrorist attack news (in terms of avoid the area after the event) spreads quickly on main news and social media.

Pre-terrorist attack unexpected event (eg. Manchester arena) there is no chance to warn because that is precisely how it occurred- under the radar.

So - unless the government are going to abuse it with daft alerts about a burst watermain in the local high street - you are looking at an microscopic amount of situations where an emergency warning is going to be warranted or likely.

Quite.

CallintheClownies · 23/04/2023 12:21

Are you sure you have written the right choices for your vote?

I think you are being unreasonable to make such a song and dance about this.

But your option of 'being unreasonable' is that you are such a hero and down with the establishment.

Maybe your options were

1 I am being unreasonable for being so silly over this and making a fuss.

2 I am being reasonable for making a fuss and being a rebel.

ClaudiaWankleman · 23/04/2023 12:22

Nimbostratus100 · 23/04/2023 10:40

you would rather not know if an asteroid was about to hit, when receiving the message " go inside, close doors, sit in hall away from windows" could save lives?
You would rather get caught outide in a maelstrom of flying glass, when moving your self 20 m in one direction could have avoided it?

what a rebel you are

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This batshit response is so beautifully mumsnet. Never change, weirdo posters who go out of their way to miss the nuance in anyone else’s posts, please.

oOiluvfriendsOo · 23/04/2023 12:22

BurscoughBooths · 23/04/2023 12:11

The government have NOT said it will be used for missing children.

Gov website says:

Reasons you might get an alertYou may get alerts about:

severe flooding
fires
extreme weather

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Well if a missing child isn't determined an emergency then I'm astounded.

Maybe I should have read the use for the alert before bumping my gums.

Leftbutcameback · 23/04/2023 12:23

Jenasaurus · 23/04/2023 12:11

Thanks for sharing this, I found myself watching it a few times! I was weirdly transfixed by the sound. Why do they all go off at different times, is it due to the phones settings?

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I think it’s due to different networks, and how the phones are connected. Sometimes if you watch your phone you can see it switch between 3g and 4g and it would then only go off on 4g. Also if you’re on the end of a cell mast signal. The tests were done on test channels, but also locally (Reading and Suffolk) so some on the edges of the real world cells didn’t get them. There is what they call “bleed” around the edges. Today is the first national test so location doesn’t matter.

Finally this was video from an earlier test and they were still refining the tech. When I observed the Reading test (in a shop) all the phones went off pretty much exactly together.

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StupidFaces · 23/04/2023 12:23

CallintheClownies · 23/04/2023 12:21

Are you sure you have written the right choices for your vote?

I think you are being unreasonable to make such a song and dance about this.

But your option of 'being unreasonable' is that you are such a hero and down with the establishment.

Maybe your options were

1 I am being unreasonable for being so silly over this and making a fuss.

2 I am being reasonable for making a fuss and being a rebel.

You clearly misunderstood my OP

Hope you have better luck
understanding the upcoming alert test at 3pm 😂

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AndrexPuppy · 23/04/2023 12:25

I haven't read 12 pages of thread, am responding to the OP but ime, FB is made for this kind of nonsense. 'School of Hard Knocks' & 'University of Life' and all that.

Some people will need to turn the alert off for safety reasons. Some will choose to so as not to alarm nervous pets or family members. Some will do it to 'stick it to the man'. Whatever.