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To be sixk of Rishi Sunak and his money making

119 replies

Viviennemary · 17/04/2023 23:48

Haven't Sunak and his wife got enough money without trying to rake in even more more by his wife investing in some child education scheme which benefits from the recent budget. He is now to be investigated for not declaring it what greed. Makes me sick. What is the matter with these people and obsession with wanting even more money to add to the billions they have already got,

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TooBigForMyBoots · 18/04/2023 11:29

Keepthetowel · 18/04/2023 08:38

I think Rishi will have so many different investments that it will be difficult to make any policy without affecting them one way or another.

The government have named the 6 agencies it will be using. If you have that many investments, you should take the time to check out if you would personally benefit. Particularly if you are the Prime Minister.Hmm

New Tory PM, same sleazy party.Angry

ilovesooty · 18/04/2023 12:03

He's a sleazy dishonest little shit.

Perhaps the electorate will realise that when they make their choices, but I'm not holding my breath.

SerendipityJane · 18/04/2023 12:20

For reasons that aren't important here, the ongoing Capita hack has re-raised discussions of how Fujitsu - a company that still has some juicy government contracts - lied under oath to get innocent postmasters sent to prison. Those that didn't commit suicide, that is.

When a government is happy to allow it's minions to break the law with impunity then maybe it's time to storm the winter palace ? Before they lock you up for something that never happened.

Everanewbie · 18/04/2023 12:44

Well I don't begrudge Rishi and his wife making investments. They have a duty to their successors to invest well to preserve and grow the wealth they have earned and themselves inherited. Only the politics of envy and people with the political "tories are evil" blinkers would claim that in itself is somehow corrupt or wrong. The specific investment in question is being investigated. We should wait for the results of that investigation to decide whether Rishi has violated the letter and/or spirit of the rules.

Fifthtimelucky · 18/04/2023 12:49

According to The Times yesterday, Sunak did declare his wife's shareholding. But he declared it to the Cabinet Office under the rules for ministers, rather than under the separate process for MPs.

I have no idea whether that is sufficient but no doubt the investigation will make a decision on that. Either way, I think it's a bit different from not declaring it at all.

WarmWinterSun · 18/04/2023 12:50

Investment is good for business do I have absolutely no problem with Mrs Sunak having shares in a childcare company. The PM’s failure to declare the investment is a separate issue.

Viviennemary · 18/04/2023 12:51

He is a slippery eel. At least Boris didn't pretend to be holier than thou. Sunak didnt want the opposition to know so we the voters would find out. What a chancer.

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SerendipityJane · 18/04/2023 13:12

Well I don't begrudge Rishi and his wife making investments. They have a duty to their successors to invest well to preserve and grow the wealth they have earned and themselves inherited.

So the end justifies the means ?

GretaGood · 18/04/2023 13:18

The thing is they are sooo rich they have no need to wheel and deal like Cameron and Johnson did - the Blair’s made a mint in property but legit so good luck to them.

flutterbyebaby · 18/04/2023 13:58

Well this post has sure brought out those people capable of corruption.

IAmTheWalrus85 · 18/04/2023 14:09

sst1234 · 18/04/2023 07:38

What is your issue? That his wife invested? Should she not, just because you think she is rich? That’s a pathetic argument.

If he’s done something corrupt, that’s another story.

I think you need to read the news stories to understand the issue before commenting.

Nightlystroll · 18/04/2023 14:17

The thing is they are sooo rich they have no need to wheel and deal like Cameron and Johnson did - the Blair’s made a mint in property but legit so good luck to them.

I thought Blair, after destabilising the Middle East with his contrived war, then got a peace envoy ambassadorship in the Middle East and then used his business consultancy company to charge countries like Kuwait millions for advice. And that he advanced the business causes of investors in his company by using his position as peace envoy to access leaders of Middle Eastern countries.
Isn't that how he made so much money?

Nightlystroll · 18/04/2023 14:18

SerendipityJane · 18/04/2023 13:12

Well I don't begrudge Rishi and his wife making investments. They have a duty to their successors to invest well to preserve and grow the wealth they have earned and themselves inherited.

So the end justifies the means ?

Do we know the means as yet?

Thesharkradar · 18/04/2023 14:20

sst1234 · 18/04/2023 07:38

What is your issue? That his wife invested? Should she not, just because you think she is rich? That’s a pathetic argument.

If he’s done something corrupt, that’s another story.

not spotted the conflict of interest here then?

Cam22 · 18/04/2023 14:21

I find Sunak’s wife very remote. Odd person. Even Carrie was pleasant.

ilovesooty · 18/04/2023 14:23

Cam22 · 18/04/2023 14:21

I find Sunak’s wife very remote. Odd person. Even Carrie was pleasant.

For goodness sake. Do you know them?

In any case what the wives are like is neither here nor there.

Thesharkradar · 18/04/2023 14:23

Cam22 · 18/04/2023 14:21

I find Sunak’s wife very remote. Odd person. Even Carrie was pleasant.

She needs to be remote she's the power behind the throne, Rishi works for her making rules that make her and her family richer

Cam22 · 18/04/2023 14:29

Thesharkradar · 18/04/2023 14:23

She needs to be remote she's the power behind the throne, Rishi works for her making rules that make her and her family richer

Yes, there is that to consider.

VladimirVsVolodymyr · 18/04/2023 14:34

@WoodenFloorboards that is a great analogy!

MandyMotherOfBrian · 18/04/2023 14:35

WoodenFloorboards · 18/04/2023 08:33

Brown surely has integrity, whatever his flaws.

Even though you might argue that having been at the centre of world events as Chancellor for so long he probably saw being Prime Minister of the UK as a stepping stone to heading up the IMF or whatever, he was obviously motivated by the work, not the after dinner speaking fees at the end of it.

Hmm, well, in 2012/13 he earnt more than other MP in after dinner speeches and article writing, at a whopping £1.37million! It apparently was paid in to his charitable trust but it’s unclear if he had any salary from that. He still also benefits from approx £115,000 per year PDCA available to former PMs, only Blair and Major claim (very marginally more) than Brown. There’s always benefits of former office to be had.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 18/04/2023 14:37

Nightlystroll · 18/04/2023 14:17

The thing is they are sooo rich they have no need to wheel and deal like Cameron and Johnson did - the Blair’s made a mint in property but legit so good luck to them.

I thought Blair, after destabilising the Middle East with his contrived war, then got a peace envoy ambassadorship in the Middle East and then used his business consultancy company to charge countries like Kuwait millions for advice. And that he advanced the business causes of investors in his company by using his position as peace envoy to access leaders of Middle Eastern countries.
Isn't that how he made so much money?

Anthony Blair Peace Envoy - surely falls in to the ‘You Couldn’t Make It Up’ category.

Cyclebabble · 18/04/2023 14:38

The man and his wife are very wealthy. This I do not have an issue with. It is therefore quite possible he was simply not aware of the investment his wife was holding, or thought the disclosure previously given was adequate. I cannot see this as a major issue.

Iwasafool · 18/04/2023 14:42

Ohyeahwaitaminute · 18/04/2023 07:49

I bet Kier Starmer isn’t as ‘financially angelic’ as people are implying he is.

Is that based on anything? I mean we know what Sunak has done but if you are just making stuff up about Starmer it isn't much of an argument is it.

Nightlystroll · 18/04/2023 14:44

IAmTheWalrus85 · 18/04/2023 14:09

I think you need to read the news stories to understand the issue before commenting.

But isn't the problem that we don't have all the details so we don't fully understand the issue and yet even so we are all, including you, commenting as if we do.

LadyEloise1 · 18/04/2023 14:45

"....Many billionaires and millionaires seem to want more and more money...."

I have great admiration for Chuck Feeney, the Irish American who with Robert Miller set up the Duty Free Shoppers Group and made a ton of money from their venture.
Miller has beautiful socialite daughters who married Greek royalty, a Von Furstenberg and a Getty.
Chuck Feeney was lower profile and set up The Atlantic Philantrophies and in 1994 secretly transferred his 38.75 % stake in Duty Free Shops to The Atlantic Philantrophies foundation.
Money was given away in secret.
He, like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have signed up to the Giving Pledge.
Chuck Feeney has given away over 8 billion in the course of his life.

(One aspect of his philanthropy I would have misgivings about are his political donations).