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To ask school why DS was told there are 72 genders?

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Ersorrywhatnow · 17/04/2023 16:14

DS - 13 - came home from school & said he had a ‘weird’ Philosophy & Ethics lesson led by a new-ish ( non-binary/trans) teacher where they discussed sexuality and gender and 72 genders were mentioned. They covered some of the ‘main’ ones like pansexual, bisexual, trans etc

I told DS that there’s not 72 bloody genders. But am curious as to what materials were used, where they came from and whether or not this was a genuine discussion as DS said it was stated as fact. So for example
When they discuss Judaism or other religions the teachers don’t state ‘god exists’ they talk about belief systems and how they are similar, how they’re different etc

it sounded like this lesson was more - this is fact.

or so I just leave it, knowing that DS is sensible, and knows that gay, trans, bi etc people exist in the world and that’s fine ask the school what the lesson was exactly?

I’m gay, BTW, so this isn’t some anti LGBTQ thing

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merrymelodies · 17/04/2023 17:44

I don't know whether to laugh heartily or cry with frustration.

Since when do we describe ourselves by our sexual preference(s). Or am I missing something...?

BruceAndNosh · 17/04/2023 17:44

FOJN · 17/04/2023 16:25

I hope there aren't 72 sets of pronouns to remember too

If only there were so few.

Click on the categories on the right hand side to see how many neo pronouns there are in each category. You'll no doubt find a very special person on Tiktok to explain how to use ux/uxs/uxself pronouns so you don't commit an act of literal violence.

https://neopronounlist.carrd.co/#nonthemed

That will be very useful for Scrabble, thank you

TakeHimHomeandCallHimClark · 17/04/2023 17:44

Nobody except an obsessive teenager would have time to memorise 72 genders. It's identity games for the Pokemon generation.

Or TopTrumps, maybe?
'Mine has elements of cake, so that outranks your astrogender on tastiness and warmth, though you beat me on universal breadth and brightness.'

LangClegsInSpace · 17/04/2023 17:44

dementedpixie · 17/04/2023 16:19

Look they even have a flag!

This would have been better

To ask school why DS was told there are 72 genders?
loislovesstewie · 17/04/2023 17:46

If my kids were young and being taught this claptrap then I would be complaining. There is absolutely no evidence that these genders exist. It's really word salad and nothing else. Furthermore if any child has a learning disability then this must confuse them to hell. It's indoctrination nothing less.

HelpMeGetThrough · 17/04/2023 17:47

@LangClegsInSpace Battenberg Gender, tasty!!!

JustDanceAddict · 17/04/2023 17:48

Bisexual and pansexual - anything ‘sexual’ isn’t a gender so if he was taught that, it’s wrong.
I would love to know the 72 genders!!

maddening · 17/04/2023 17:50

Genders are more akin to personality traits imo.

Tessisme · 17/04/2023 17:50

Sure there are new genders every bloody week. Just the two sexes though. Hang on to that!

dementedpixie · 17/04/2023 17:50

Miaow!

Is there not a school where there is a kid that's cat gender and they have to pander to them?

To ask school why DS was told there are 72 genders?
Soontobe60 · 17/04/2023 17:51

Ersorrywhatnow · 17/04/2023 16:23

Guess it’s just a shoulder shrug, and move on then.

Id be sending them a strongly worded email - if they’re claiming that bisexual is a gender, what other absolute lies / nonsense / bollox are they teaching them?

Irritateandunreasonable · 17/04/2023 17:51

QueenSmartypants · 17/04/2023 16:16

I don't have a problem with there being 72 genders I just wonder how anyone can remember them all

It’s cool you don’t have a problem with it but that doesn’t change the fact theirs only two.

Jackiebrambles · 17/04/2023 17:52

No way would I let that lie, I’d be wanting a meeting with with head of department or head teacher! I bet they don’t even know what ‘ash’ was teaching.

MargotBamborough · 17/04/2023 17:54

Ersorrywhatnow · 17/04/2023 16:38

Given the teacher, Ash, told them that anyone who identifies with the gender that matches their biology makes them ‘ privileged’ I feel there’s a bit of an agenda, but the teacher isn’t the Phil/ethics teacher normally. They do another subject usually.

I'd like to know whether Ash can describe the features of the gender that matches having a female reproductive system so I can work out whether I identify with it or not.

GoneTillNovember · 17/04/2023 18:06

FOJN · 17/04/2023 16:25

I hope there aren't 72 sets of pronouns to remember too

If only there were so few.

Click on the categories on the right hand side to see how many neo pronouns there are in each category. You'll no doubt find a very special person on Tiktok to explain how to use ux/uxs/uxself pronouns so you don't commit an act of literal violence.

https://neopronounlist.carrd.co/#nonthemed

Holy moly. How exactly does 'no pronouns' work? How do you refer to that person?

Also love jam/jam/jams/jamself 😋

GabriellaMontez · 17/04/2023 18:07

I'd be asking why only 72?

Seriously as long as they teach 2 sexes I don't care.

juldan · 17/04/2023 18:20

Here is the link to one of the lists, but there is no cakegender or catgender☹️.https://72gender.com/72-genders-list/
So there must be more than 72 genders. Maybe we will soon find out that the number of genders is ♾️
Total rubbish!

Ersorrywhatnow · 17/04/2023 18:26

The science dept is deffo teaching biology. This was Philosophy & Ethics which runs the gamut from RE to myth to moral dilemmas etc

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whynotwhatknot · 17/04/2023 18:29

well its not a fact is it

UncomfortableSofa · 17/04/2023 18:30

How silly, there aren't 72 genders!

Nope, there are 101 according to my DS12's teacher.

FFS.

Always4Brenner · 17/04/2023 18:40

juldan · 17/04/2023 18:20

Here is the link to one of the lists, but there is no cakegender or catgender☹️.https://72gender.com/72-genders-list/
So there must be more than 72 genders. Maybe we will soon find out that the number of genders is ♾️
Total rubbish!

Got to 24 and gave up my brain hurts can’t understand it I give up. Gibberish.

lifeturnsonadime · 17/04/2023 18:41

@LangClegsInSpace

That's made me fancy a battenburg, I haven't had one for years!

Gender ideology has no place in schools. It's a quasi religious belief and it's harmful to women and children.

I'd be complaining OP. The school's job is to educate not indoctrinate.

dalecooper · 17/04/2023 18:45

Seems rather bizarre to state it as fact. I would certainly question that.

TheClitterati · 17/04/2023 18:45

Lcb123 · 17/04/2023 16:17

I just don’t really know why it matters

So why teach it in school then?

MargotBamborough · 17/04/2023 18:53

Ersorrywhatnow · 17/04/2023 18:26

The science dept is deffo teaching biology. This was Philosophy & Ethics which runs the gamut from RE to myth to moral dilemmas etc

To be fair, gender ideology is a quasi religious belief so that's probably where it belongs, if anywhere.

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