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Feeling Triggered with MIL visits

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MelThomas1 · 16/04/2023 09:24

Hi everyone,

Just wanted some input and advice from you guys.

My mother in law has been round more often during the Easter holidays. I can't really pinpoint a direct comment or act that is a big deal but I find her so triggering to the point this Friday I was in tears after she left. She came on Friday and bought lots of toys for the kids, even though she never buys them anything (aside from Christmas where she gives money usually). I said in a polite way, aww thank you for the gifts but you shouldn't have, they've got so many, they have so many toys as it is. I reminded my children to say thank you to her for the toys as she was leaving, and she made a comment saying, "What I buy my grandchildren is between me and them, nothing to do with you. Don't get involved with me and my grandchildren!" I just find her so bizarre. All I was doing is teaching my children to be polite and say thank you. She's always making passive agressive comments. My first DD died a day after she was born, and she wasn't very supportive, in fact she was the opposite, it was like she was pleased I didn't have a baby. She didn't hug me or say anything comforting. In fact, she called me two days after burying my baby to "share the good news" with me that her nephew in America has had a beautiful baby girl two days prior and how excited she is for them and she is going to buy clothes and toys for them. Then about three or four weeks after burying my baby, she brought the neighbours round with their six month old baby and took the baby and placed him on my lap and said how cute is he, here you go, hold him. And she just had this intense stare like she was looking for me to be upset. And when I did finally cry, she smiled and said I'll take him, if you want.

She also would say how it's not a big deal my baby died and I'm being impatient by crying all the time as many others have gone through much worse than I have and they have handled it better than me and how I actually didn't know my baby or raise her up so how can I be so upset. And then she said I raised my son up for 26 years and gave him to you, look at me do I complain about that. I lost my son to you. I never understood why she was so horrible to me considering I went out of my way to involve her in my pregnancy, took her shopping to help choose baby stuff like clothes, buggy, baby swing, blankets and so on. I made a lot of effort because I knew she would be feeling insecure and jealous and wanted to abate that and let her know she is a part of our lives.

There's lots of these horrible comments that have been said over 15 years and after my other children were born, I always felt triggered when she held my children. She even made comments about how ugly my rainbow DD was compared to the next door's baby who was born a week earlier. She would say my DD isn't as cute but she might grow into her nose and comments like that. Thankfully, we had enough money to move out just after my rainbow DD turned one and since then I've kept a distance, short weekly or fortnightly visits for 2-3 hours. She's even said when my rainbow DD was little that she should call her mama, and how my children would be more attached to her than me (this was when I was living with her). I find it so triggering when she keeps saying to my children, you're my sweetheart, etc, after calling them ugly as babies. She hugs them rarely but when she does she stares at me as she is hugging them and says, look they're hugging me, look she wants to play with me, etc. And when my children were toddlers and they would call out to me saying Mama or Mummy, she would run and say yes, I'm here.

I just squirm when I'm around her, and I feel so triggered when she is there. I honestly have to prep myself before I see her, have a pep talk with myself. It sounds so ridiculous, doesn't it considering I am in my thirties and have a teenage daughter. This feeling only happens with her. My father in law and his wife are fine, I love inviting them regulalry and going to theirs.

My children saw me upset on Friday and they asked why, and I was so close to telling the older ones (8-13 years) about the real reason I was upset and how their granny has been horrible but I just left it. They're only kids, they won't understand and I don't want them to be affected.

AIBU for being upset or uncomfortable around her?

OP posts:
BrutusMcDogface · 16/04/2023 14:21

She’s an evil, nasty piece of shit to treat you like that. You don’t have to have her in your life! I wouldn’t have her anywhere near me or my kids!

ArrrMeHearties · 16/04/2023 14:33

She sounds utterly disgusting. I'd be staying as far away from her as I could especially after all you have been through

WhiteBobbin · 16/04/2023 14:39

So sorry about your daughter. Your MIL is vile and deliberately cruel.

You talk about owing her contact wi TV your children, nope. You can stop that completely if you want. She will behave far worse to them as they get older, don’t let her do that. Speak to your husband and tell him this has to stop. Write down all the things she has said and done to you and let him read. If he wants to go NC support him. I made the mistake of not doing that when my DH suggested we go NC and suggested we should keep making the effort.

mamabear715 · 16/04/2023 14:40

You've had good advice & I can't add any more, just wanted to say you have been very patient & forgiving, well done you! But you don't have to put up with this. Hugs. xx

greenel · 16/04/2023 14:50

Oh you need to stop being a doormat (not meant harshly) and cut this woman out of your life. She was watching your daughter chew on a phone wire and not stopping her - that isn't just malicious, that's wanting harm on your children.

She sounds dangerous and just because she's granny does not mean your children need a relationship with her. They aren't missing out, in fact they're in danger around her, and won't care when they're old enough to understand why.

She senses your weakness and preys on it. The only way to deal with someone like her is to cut her off and not give her a reaction. Protect your children and if DH can't see it, I would consider quietly recording conversations you have with her. That's the level of manipulation you're working with around her. She will only get worse as the children get older. Do you have to live that close to her - that was a mistake, she can now show up whenever she wants. So cutting contact is the only way to go because you'll never be able to reason with her or expect understanding from her.

Also, YOU are the mother. No adult, other than DH, can have a relationship with your underage child, that you are not approving of or involved in.

coconutpie · 16/04/2023 17:12

After reading the first paragraph alone, I would be going NC with her. Add in all the other paragraphs, I don't know how you can still see that vile woman every two weeks. It is never too late to stand up for yourself. I wouldn't be letting your DC have contact with her either. She is vile and unhinged and the way she treats you is disgusting.

MinnieGirl · 16/04/2023 18:39

I’m so sorry for the loss of your daughter, and the way your MiL treated you.

You don’t need to keep the relationship going for the sake of your kids. She is nasty and toxic, and your kids do not need to be exposed to her spiteful behaviour. Show them that you won’t allow her to hurt your family.

You are the gatekeeper to her grandchildren. And if she wants to see them she behaves. Next time the kids ask you what’s wrong tell them! Granny doesn’t seem to like mummy, and sadly she is always very nasty to me when she thinks no one is around. Kids will probably have picked up vibes, and you are also giving them permission to say they really don’t like her either…

Can you move? A street away is far too near. And start distancing yourselves…. Personally, I would be completely NC with the evil old bag….

thelengthspeoplegoto · 16/04/2023 18:50

She's a nasty piece of work. Getting your kids to call her mama - this would make my blood boil.
You need to look her right in the eye and tell her, 'I'm their mama, not you.' She sounds absolutely awful.

PauseTheRain · 16/04/2023 18:54

I'm sorry. She sounds spectacularly cruel.

mosiacmaker · 16/04/2023 18:55

Why don’t you just see her once a month, if that? I don’t even spend as much time with my parents, who I love, as you spend with her! YANBU to be triggered but YABU to keep spending so much time with her!

LlamasUnited · 16/04/2023 19:00

She sounds sociopathic tbh. I’d take steps to stance myself as much as possible. Take care OP x

LlamasUnited · 16/04/2023 19:01

*distance

Spambod · 16/04/2023 19:01

I am so sad to read this op. I am so sorry about your lovely baby. Your family deserve better. She sounds like a complete monster. It is not your fault. I would not want her having a relationship with my children going forward.

mrssunshinexxx · 16/04/2023 19:05

Cut ties. This woman is evil. She will only harm you and add nothing positive

itsabigtree · 16/04/2023 19:17

She's bat shit crazy. Poison to the core. She won't change. You have no obligation to see her. Your kids don't need to have a relationship with a weird, cruel old lady. Next time your kids ask why your upset... tell them.
And keep her out of your life.

melisma · 16/04/2023 22:19

My goodness OP, there are many MIL threads on Mumsnet, but this really is terrible behaviour from her. You are under NO OBLIGATION to have a relationship with this woman. I really feel for you - good luck.

Overthinkingnotdrinking · 16/04/2023 22:24

Bloody hell op. I’m so sorry for your loss and having this awful woman in your life. You deserve better then this cruelty.

Fraaahnces · 17/04/2023 01:45

Jeesus @MelThomas1 is this your MIL? (*see photo) The only way to deal with her is to totally destabilize her. Don’t ever let her speak to you like that again. Find your voice. “Who do you think you are speaking to me like that? Please leave my home immediately.” Don’t take the kids to her home, never, EVER leave them unsupervised around her and limit visits further and further. Also ensure that you keep your phone on record when in her company so that she can’t gaslight you in front of DH. You can show him later how she speaks to you.
I wouldn’t resort to insulting her. It’s not worth it. Just stand up in your own power. She won’t handle it. I would even say “Right… Feel better? You’ve had your fix for today. That’s enough for you. Go home now.”

Feeling Triggered with MIL visits
emptythelitterbox · 17/04/2023 02:00

She's vile and evil.

Cut her out permanently.
Do it now. Do it today. You absolutely don't have to put up with it.

Agree with pp that there is zero benefit to allowing your children to be exposed to this evil.

Have the children heard the way she speaks to you?

Find a good therapist too as you have been abused and traumatized by her for 15 years.

SixPurpleChairs · 17/04/2023 02:29

Weird af. She sounds mentally unwell and I agree you shouldn't expose your children or yourself to her. I'm sorry you lost your baby.

HanSB · 17/04/2023 02:39

She’s evil and actively hates you and wishes to cause you emotional distress with her behaviour. You don’t have to tolerate her and be subject to her poison. It’s no wonder you feel like this. Cut your contact with her. Let your husband deal with her and her atrocious behaviour. Being family doesn’t excuse anything

Murdoch1949 · 17/04/2023 04:50

Talk all this through with your husband. Then don't let her in unless your husband is home, as she behaves better in his company. When she is in your house, busy yourself with jobs so you are not forced into chatting to her. Have the minimum of contact with her, she's an unpleasant woman who obviously has 'issues'. Keep the doors locked!

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