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Harry Potter TV Series

98 replies

Botw1 · 14/04/2023 21:17

Surprised there's not been a thread about this

It's bound to be massive.

Anyone else looking forward to it?

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YeahOkWhatever · 15/04/2023 09:05

HeartbreakHouse · 15/04/2023 05:48

He’s awkward and really boring on talk shows I’ve seen him on.

Looking forward to the series and I’m interested as to whether they cast known actors or not. Hoping for people who aren’t so eager to give away women’s rights and damage children. Privileged and ignorant isn’t a good mix.

Good to see JK is an exec producer.

OK, I suspected this, and it's not about the acting or the personality at all.

wonderinglywondering · 15/04/2023 09:05

What will be hilarious is how woke celebs happy to trash JKR for clout will suddenly have a change of heart desperate for a part. If this happens I hope she tells them where to go.

Simon Pegg voiced Phineas Nigellus in Hogwarts Legacy, I would love to see him get a part.

Kanaloa · 15/04/2023 09:05

TheKeatingFive · 15/04/2023 09:01

Yes Emma is absolutely excruciating. The kid who played Ginny Weasley was also pretty bad, if I recall correctly.

To be fair to the actress she had literally nothing to work with. I couldn’t have fed him that mince pie and said ‘open up then’ with a straight face so props to her. Where was the Ginny from the books? Who had the huge argument with Ron when he caught her kissing Dean Thomas? Or who stole her brothers broomsticks, stuck up for Luna etc? I’ve never seen the actress in anything else so maybe she is just rubbish, but I couldn’t judge her on what she had in those films!

DonnaRix · 15/04/2023 09:08

Yeah I’ve never been sure about Bonnie Wright. Not convinced it’s her fault, I think Ginny was really badly written in the films.

There was just no personality.

PuttingDownRoots · 15/04/2023 09:09

I hope they get the age of Snape, Lupin, aunt Petunia etc correct... they are supposed to be early thirties at the beginning.

DonnaRix · 15/04/2023 09:10

I nearly named my youngest after (book) Ginny (but my husband veto’d it 🙁)

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 15/04/2023 09:11

Sturnip · 15/04/2023 09:02

Can’t she write something new?

I imagine this will be stretched out over 7 or 8 seasons but anyone vaguely interested will likely have already read the books, watched the movies and will know the overall plot very well.

I quite like the Harry Potter books and might have watched a spin off, but this sounds really pointless.

I think it's aimed partially at younger generations. There's a whole new audience out there, especially the children of the people who loved the books initially. It's an obvious market to tap, and the films were a bit of a curate's egg. They left out a lot too, which is inevitable with film adaptations.

Also, she's written quite a bit since finishing Harry Potter...

TheKeatingFive · 15/04/2023 09:13

To be fair to the actress she had literally nothing to work with.

Fair enough. Real shame, book Ginny is fab.

Snapespeare · 15/04/2023 09:13

UthredofBattenberg · 15/04/2023 09:00

I absolutely cannot wait! I've wanted a TV series for a long time. I love the films, but a lot of the book content is skipped over.

I'd like a series per book, with an episode dedicated to a chapter or two.

HBO have huge budgets so I'm hoping this will be a massive series.

Love some of the casting ideas above, fantastic suggestions.

The only thing I think I would like to see is Ade Edmondson as Peeves, such a shame we never got to see Rik Mayall in the finished film...

I'm happy with Ade Edmondson pretty much doing anything - he is very underrated as a semi-serious actor I think - I remember his version of Prince Charles in the Comic Strip presents as being very gentle and well observed ( actually, based on that - he is Theo Lovegood!)

JulieHoney · 15/04/2023 09:19

There’s a lot more in the books that would be good to see on the screen. Understandably, the scope of the characters was pared down so much for 2 hour films, whereas a series could do it properly.

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 15/04/2023 09:28

TheKeatingFive · 15/04/2023 08:54

They haven’t set themselves against JK or have a horrible attitude towards JK. They just support trans people to be who they are.

They've point blank refused to engage with the impact TRA demands have on women's dignity and safety and Dan in particular has consistently tried to silence JKR by suggesting she has no authority to speak on the subject.

Their version of 'supporting trans people to be who they are' cheerleads them in laying claim to sex segregated spaces that don't belong to them. With vulnerable women being the ones who lose out.

Yes, this. They can both get to fuck and stop shitting on women.

CreepyDibillo · 15/04/2023 09:29

Qilin · 15/04/2023 08:50

I think it's being produced by Warner Bros (with JKR as an exec producer) for their HBO Max (or just called Max sometimes I think) steaming service.

It's currently not available in the UK iirr, but I can't imagine this series not being available in the UK so I suspect the streaming service will be expanded to cover the UK or will be available in another service.

HBO productions are usually on Sky Atlantic in the UK (Game of Thrones, And Just Like That, The Gilded Age, White Lotus etc) . Whether this one will follow suit remains to be seen as the current agreement only runs until 2025.

I am so excited for the series, I just hope they do it justice 🙏

MrsMitford3 · 15/04/2023 09:30

Snapespeare · 15/04/2023 05:25

apologies for cross pollination (also posted on Fem board) this is my rationale for James McAvoy as Snape- his enunciation as Cyrano was paced and Rickmanesque (albeit in his home accent, couldn't Snape be a scot?) His longing for Roxanne, his movement when duelling and his anger.

Pop him in a wig and call him Severus!

Suranne Jones as McGonnagle is lovely - I am a huge fan. I wonder if she might be Trelawney?

OMG that clip is fantastic-goosebumps.
He'd be a terrific Snape! And Snape could def be a Scot-why not?

I wonder how many big names will be cast versus unknowns-I really hope it's a success.

I think the challenge will be that the early books are very much children's books and as they go on the get darker and more adult. I have recently gone back and re-read early ones and was surprised at how quickly the films become the story in your head.
There is a lot taken away from periphery characters and given to the Big Three-usually Hermione gets anything good Neville says or does.
I always thought Percy's betrayal and redemption story line was an interesting one but it does lift right out for the films.

You don't really see Harry and Ginny's romance or actually anything good about Ginny at all-the films really did her dirty.

I hope it's brilliant but it's def see they have a challenge ahead!

Waitwhat23 · 15/04/2023 09:35

For anyone who hasn't seen it, this is JKR's essay (her own words) about why she defends the single sex exemptions in the EQA2010 -

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Quote from her essay -

'I believe the majority of trans-identified people not only pose zero threat to others, but are vulnerable for all the reasons I’ve outlined. Trans people need and deserve protection. Like women, they’re most likely to be killed by sexual partners. Trans women who work in the sex industry, particularly trans women of colour, are at particular risk. Like every other domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor I know, I feel nothing but empathy and solidarity with trans women who’ve been abused by men.

So I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside. That is the simple truth.'

And the petition referred to? There is another petition which asks for the Government to make it clear that the single sex exemptions in the EQA2010 refers to biological sex and not a legal fiction, which has been signed by 110,000 people. Both should be getting debated in Parliament at some point in the near future.

Kanaloa · 15/04/2023 09:42

I always thought Percy's betrayal and redemption story line was an interesting one but it does lift right out for the films.

OMG yes! I think one wonderful thing about that storyline is that we get Percy. He’s really having the same issue as Ron when Ron says ‘it’s rubbish being poor.’ He wants a better life, he’s just a bit of a twit about it initially.

So many storylines cut out of the films that will be exciting to see on screen. Regulus for example! Did he appear in the films at all? And yet he’s quite important in the last book. Or the story of how Merope came to be pregnant with Tom Riddle’s baby.

Mortimerat · 15/04/2023 10:01

I honestly think I will struggle to get used to new actors, I am going against the grain but I liked Radcliffe and Watson, after the first couple of films anyway. Grunt was awful and never improved. I am disappointed with their stance on JKR / trans debate.

But I think I will give it a go and I will enjoy seeing all those things that were missed out of the films. I have read the books several times, but not for a few years now and I have probably forgotten a lot. I have always said that the films make absolutely no sense stand alone and you needed to have read the books to be able to follow the story.

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 15/04/2023 10:02

I def think there are people who liked the film actors because it's what they grew up with and got used to iyswim.

LlynTegid · 15/04/2023 10:03

I don't think it should be made. Much as I think JK Rowling should be supported in her views about protecting women.

There are some films (and tv series and indeed some theatre) that are so of their time or iconic that I would like to see them have something akin to heritage protection and not be remade.

PizzaPizza56 · 15/04/2023 10:10

Let's have Snape and the Marauders as the right age this time please! Early 30s!!

Hiddendoor · 15/04/2023 10:23

I'm looking forward to all the memes. But will anything beat "DID YOU PUT YER NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIIIIIIIRE"?

Kanaloa · 15/04/2023 10:27

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 15/04/2023 09:03

I agree. Maybe the solution is just to put all the auditionees names in a hat and pick them out haha. They could call it a Sorting Hat!

😂

You either get sorted into Hermione, Harry, Ron, or Go Home.

No shade though, it must be hard to choose child actors aged 11 knowing they’ll need to handle quite deep material when they’re 15/16/17. It’s such a weird jump.

Baabaa75 · 15/04/2023 10:32

LlynTegid · 15/04/2023 10:03

I don't think it should be made. Much as I think JK Rowling should be supported in her views about protecting women.

There are some films (and tv series and indeed some theatre) that are so of their time or iconic that I would like to see them have something akin to heritage protection and not be remade.

While I agree somewhat in principle the original HP films don't fall in this category. They are fairly bad films in the main, long overdue to be done properly 🤷

risefromyourgrave · 15/04/2023 10:51

Snapespeare · 15/04/2023 08:59

@risefromyourgrave "There’s no way either James Acaster or Nish Kumar would sully themselves with the dreadful JKR’s work on their CV, TWAW don’t you know?! They probably think the new series will literally cause a trans genocide"

I made you a story!

Neville swirled his cup tentatively and willed the tea leaves to form something wonderful. He didn't want much. He had friends now and his Grandmother had been quite pleased with his mock OWLS results. Divination had always been a bit of a problem for him. It was.... unpredictable. You knew where you were with plants.

Professor Trelawney neared his desk. Padma and Pavrati gazed at her adoringly as she wafted towards them, her mismatched robes gently floating in time with her gliding step.

'Neville!' Hermione hissed, 'come on! Turn it over!' He startled at her voice and turned the teacup quickly onto its saucer, draining the dark brown tea and gazed into the cup as Trelawney approached.

'Now then child, what do you see?' Trelawney fixed him with a stare, her owlish eyes magnified by her glasses.

'A...a sickle?' Neville stuttered.

'VERY good Neville! and is there anything else?'

Neville felt his palms moisten. He scrutinised the tea leaf patterns in his cup carefully, his nose just inches away from the haphazard flecks of tea.

'Ummm. Is it....? Is it a RAT? I think its holding something...'

Trelawney leant towards him encouragingly, 'Not quite dear, try again.'

Neville looked hopelessly at Hermione - 'it's not a rat...it's.. its...'

Hermiones hand shot up. Trelawney sighed with resignation, 'yes Miss Granger?'

' it's a Ferret Miss! A Ferret, holding a nut, travelling backwards'

Neville flushed. Of course. A reverse ferret motivated by wizard gold and personal pride.

It was staring him in the face. Why hadn't he seen it all along?

Nevilles shoulders slumped. His Grandmother would be disappointed.

😁 I love it! And oh my God, I’d love to see Nish Kumar try to justify his taking any money from Hitler/Stalin herself.
But I’d hate to see Nish Kumar or James Acaster in anything to do with JKR, they really don’t deserve it, so hopefully it’ll remain a fan casting and nothing more.

risefromyourgrave · 15/04/2023 10:55

I think the hardest one to cast will be Hagrid, that’s honestly the one absolutely sublime casting in the film, albeit I think JKR has said she had Robbie Coltrane in her head when she wrote Hagrid. So sad he’s gone.

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 15/04/2023 11:20

risefromyourgrave · 15/04/2023 10:51

😁 I love it! And oh my God, I’d love to see Nish Kumar try to justify his taking any money from Hitler/Stalin herself.
But I’d hate to see Nish Kumar or James Acaster in anything to do with JKR, they really don’t deserve it, so hopefully it’ll remain a fan casting and nothing more.

Hehe

Fwiw, I suspect nobody who's been critical of JKR and is prominent enough to have got attention for that is going to be approached or audition. The humour to be found there will be in them having failed so hard.

What I could see happening is that some people who are on the TWAW train now but can't afford principles will audition, one of them might be successful and they don't quite manage to scrub all evidence from their social media. So at some point someone unearths them liking a tweet calling JKR a literal murderer in 2020 or whatever, with accompanying shitstorm.

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