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To not expect to pay excessive amount as we're family.

601 replies

Boop1e · 11/04/2023 14:15

In laws brought themselves a caravan on a haven site a year ago. Decided to spend some pension money on it.
the site fees have renewed and have gone up just like everything else in life.
They don't rent it out and we only use it as family.
Anyway father in law has just charged his own son £75 for 3 nights to use it. He owed me money for ordering him a new tablet and doing him a favour so took the money out of that which I couldn't afford to lose.

Before the season started he mentioned charging £25 a day but nothing else happened and no mention of it again before we went.

He's also charged brother in law £150 to use but they paid upfront.

Am i being unreasonable to feel this is a lot to charge your own children and £10 or so a day would be sufficient. I'm not convinced I spend £25 a day heating and lighting my 3 bed home. They get their passes included with the caravan for 10 people.

Husband won't challenge it because it won't make any difference.

OP posts:
Facem81 · 11/04/2023 15:56

PuddlesPityParty · 11/04/2023 15:54

No one is missing that. The FIL had stated he was going to start charging. People are allowed to do that. Not his fault the OP thought it was a bit of a LOL joke.

Yes so point is

If he’s charging this time

It is because he bloody well needs to!

BadNomad · 11/04/2023 15:56

Believe me, he hasn't made a profit from that. He'll be lucky if it even covers the gas, water and electricity used.

PeaceLilyCactus · 11/04/2023 15:56

You’re being ungrateful. There’s so many people who’d be happy to be so lucky.

Facem81 · 11/04/2023 15:57

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 11/04/2023 15:55

So she's had 3 free holidays out of them already then. £75 is still a bargain for a holiday.

Exactly!!!!!

That was my point along with fact he must genuinely need to charge this time

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 11/04/2023 15:57

A) they BOUGHT it; not BROUGHT it
B) they are entirely reasonable to ask for contributions to its upkeep in the form of rental to anyone they let use it.
C)you knew in advance he was asking £25/day
D) if he’s deducted it from money owed to you and it’s a problem then get the money from your husband and tell him to speak to his dad about it.

YABVU

toomuchlaundry · 11/04/2023 15:58

@Boop1e do you get free holidays from your parents too?

Ladybug14 · 11/04/2023 16:00

Now you know that you have to pay and that it wasn't a joke, you don't need to stay in the caravan again

You can find another holiday destination to whinge about Confused

SheilaFentiman · 11/04/2023 16:00

Boop1e · 11/04/2023 15:31

Fair point. Think my biggest beef is being asked after the event when he'd not definitely confirmed he'd charge.

Why do you think the onus was on him to confirm he would charge, and not on you or DH to check, given he'd already said, "oh, costs have gone up, we'll have to charge a bit this year" or words to that effect?

Mari9999 · 11/04/2023 16:01

OP, why then do you not use your family''s caravan since there wss no question that it would be free?

allmyliesaretrue · 11/04/2023 16:01

I wouldn’t be quibbling over a caravan in a location you have already been at less 3 or 4 times! Spread your wings and experience somewhere new!

Albiboba · 11/04/2023 16:01

Wiseflower · 11/04/2023 15:47

It depends on how much high the site fee is, maybe they rely on you to help pay for it. If so, they should rent it out to everyone.
They would have considered the site fee before they purchased the caravan.

However, it does seem mean to charge you if you have a family to support along with bills, mortgage. It is a low charge but nontheless, an extra charge. Travelodge and Premier Inn can be cheaper in comparison!

They should see it as a treat for the family and not use them to pay for the upkeep or the site fee. This is something they would have considered at first.
It should make them feel happy that their grandchildren are able to enjoy a holiday in their caravan.

In what world is a family of 4 staying at a premier in for less than £25 total per night??

allmyliesaretrue · 11/04/2023 16:02

allmyliesaretrue · 11/04/2023 16:01

I wouldn’t be quibbling over a caravan in a location you have already been at less 3 or 4 times! Spread your wings and experience somewhere new!

At least ffs

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 11/04/2023 16:02

Ladybug14 · 11/04/2023 16:00

Now you know that you have to pay and that it wasn't a joke, you don't need to stay in the caravan again

You can find another holiday destination to whinge about Confused

Pretty much anywhere then as shel have to spend money!

MyFaceIsAnAONB · 11/04/2023 16:02

YANBU, we didn’t pay anything for holiday flat over the Easter weekend as family owns it. Obviously we offered but I expected it to be free and it was. If you own some kind of holiday accomm then you don’t need to penny pinch.

Charlize43 · 11/04/2023 16:03

£25 per night is extremely cheap! Does he have a bookings website?

BananasForBrains · 11/04/2023 16:03

We put in pre payment meters on the permanent pitches on our seasonal area this year at the caravan site I manage. These are towable caravans so will be using much less than a static. We also managed to fix at a fairly decent rate, and there is no standing charge. Most are just 2 people in the van. Seasonals are feeding back that they are going through about £10 a day electric. So I expect really you are probably only paying them about £10 a day to stay, after electric, which must be at least £15, possibly more depending on their electric rate. So peanuts!

Albiboba · 11/04/2023 16:04

Facem81 · 11/04/2023 15:53

Everyone is missing that

THE OP HAS STAYED IN THE CARAVAN 3x PREVIOUSLY AND NOT BEEN CHARGED!!

I don’t think anyone is missing that? The OP has had 3 free holidays and this year FIL told her and her DH that he was going to start having a fee for the stay.
Just because they let op stay for free before isn’t a reason it needs to remain like that.

ladygindiva · 11/04/2023 16:05

Funnily enough I was eyeing up a caravan haven holiday just last night and even off season it's way more than 25 per night. I think he's being very fair and you're being very entitled, sorry.

Facem81 · 11/04/2023 16:05

Yes I’ve followed up 3x confirming that was my point

Albiboba · 11/04/2023 16:05

Boop1e · 11/04/2023 15:54

Exactly. My parents don't charge me and get offended if I offer.

So free holidays 3 times from your in-laws plus free holidays from your parents and you’re still moaning?

ladygindiva · 11/04/2023 16:06

Miajk · 11/04/2023 14:32

They'd be paying it anyway so what's the difference to them?

They're not covering costs their just trying to profit. People on here are weird. Why would you charge your relative 25 a night just to make money off them!

He's not profiting, he's expecting a contribution towards the site fees he has to pay which is I think entirely fair. Also as op admits, he did state a while back he intended to charge for this.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 11/04/2023 16:07

I think the main point of the feedback here is SORT OUT YOUR OWN HOLIDAYS in future (and pay for them) and stop expecting freebies from family, when you just slag them off afterwards.

Entitled? More like ungrateful and spiteful.

Talapia · 11/04/2023 16:07

Three nights in a caravan, in the Easter holidays, for £75 quid. Bargain.

I feel this is yet another in law bashing thread ...🙄

ladygindiva · 11/04/2023 16:08

MyFaceIsAnAONB · 11/04/2023 16:02

YANBU, we didn’t pay anything for holiday flat over the Easter weekend as family owns it. Obviously we offered but I expected it to be free and it was. If you own some kind of holiday accomm then you don’t need to penny pinch.

What a stupid thing to say. What if someone owns the holiday acc and their situation changes. So many entitled grabby people on this thread. Why would you NOT contribute?

Boop1e · 11/04/2023 16:08

Collaborate · 11/04/2023 15:47

OP - I think you've had a hard time here.

With family it's shouldn't be the case that if you'd have the option of paying someone commercially for something then family should also pay, at a reduced rate or not.

To cover their direct costs, then perhaps some payment is fair. For example cost of electricity, or site fees for those 3 days. To add a profit element sounds a bit unseemly between family members.

I'm sure that your F-in-L could have found an IT consultant to sort out the purchase of an iPad for him, but he didn't, and you'd presumably never consider charging for your time.

When you have family round for a meal and to stay, whether they've invited you or not, you don't (or shouldn't) charge them a room rate. Even if they stay at your house when you're on your holidays very few people would ever consider making a charge.

The easiest thing to do is to stay elsewhere in future. If you wouldn't have stayed at a caravan but for the fact that your in-laws own it then take the holidays you want, not the ones you feel obliged to take.

@Collaborate thank you

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