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School ski trip cancelled due to chaos in Dover - fuck the tories

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TheColourofspring · 02/04/2023 10:57

My 15 year old son has just spent 17 hours in a coach in dover waiting to go on a much anticipated ski trip. It’s cost us over £1500 over a year and we hoped, given everything our kids lost over covid, it would be a positive experience.

The school just notified us to say that now- due to health and safety, drivers hours etc- the trip needs to be cancelled and the kids are on their way back from dover.

Absolutely FUCK the lying Tory cunts - they ruin everything. They try and blame the French yet all of this lies at their door. Fuck them all for ruining 100 kids trip (and probably thousands more) and ruining everything they touch with their stinking corrupt lies and their lies about brexit.

My son was in tears.

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SchoolTripDrama · 02/04/2023 19:08

What did they expect though? It's the beginning of one of the bigger school holidays other than summer! Of course it's going to be jam packed, especially since Brexit. Did the situation with the Lorries recently, not teach people anything?!

Pottedpalm · 02/04/2023 19:08

jgw1 · 02/04/2023 18:55

Would they be back in time from Milan to do the 3pm school pick up though?

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School holidays.. hence the trips to France.. non?

Rhondaa · 02/04/2023 19:09

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 19:07

The UK choose to become a third world country, the French don't owe us any favours unless the UK is willing to pay for extra fast stampers.

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Systems and protocols can change anywhere and anytime. They don't owe us any favours, they should just do their job effectively and efficiently.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 02/04/2023 19:09

Rhondaa · 02/04/2023 19:05

They are stamping passports of those entering their country I would say it is their responsibility to get their arses in gear yes as we stamp those entering ours?

You know this goes on globally don't you, passport stamping? Not quite sure why French staff at Dover can't organise themselves. Or are we still saying But Buses?

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But why should the French taxpayer foot the bill for more checks at the border when that's the result of the UK's decision to leave the EU? Surely that's our problem?

jgw1 · 02/04/2023 19:09

IClaudine · 02/04/2023 19:01

And maybe a spare coach for the spare coach?

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Now I think perhaps you are being a little bit silly.

What I don't understand though is why there isn't a spare ferry or two parked in Dover waiting in case there is particularly high demand.

SchoolTripDrama · 02/04/2023 19:09

But I do feel awful for your son and I hope he still manages to do something fun

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 19:10

Rhondaa · 02/04/2023 19:09

Systems and protocols can change anywhere and anytime. They don't owe us any favours, they should just do their job effectively and efficiently.

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You mean they should just wave people through like they used to?

TezTickle · 02/04/2023 19:10

Nocutenamesleft · 02/04/2023 15:52

Is it not just the sheer volume of traffic though rather than Brexit?

Oh bugger off with your common sense!

Rhondaa · 02/04/2023 19:11

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 19:10

You mean they should just wave people through like they used to?

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No they should staff to reflect demand as every other port and airport does.

jgw1 · 02/04/2023 19:11

Rhondaa · 02/04/2023 19:05

They are stamping passports of those entering their country I would say it is their responsibility to get their arses in gear yes as we stamp those entering ours?

You know this goes on globally don't you, passport stamping? Not quite sure why French staff at Dover can't organise themselves. Or are we still saying But Buses?

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@Janiie I have travelled to and from a number of countries. Very few of them have stamped my passport, mores the pity. Do you think at the time I landed they waved me through because the border staff were taking care of the essential business of eating cake and drinking alchol at work?

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 19:12

SchoolTripDrama · 02/04/2023 19:08

What did they expect though? It's the beginning of one of the bigger school holidays other than summer! Of course it's going to be jam packed, especially since Brexit. Did the situation with the Lorries recently, not teach people anything?!

Were there problems with coaches like this before? Or should they just use a crystal ball.

TezTickle · 02/04/2023 19:13

LakieLady · 02/04/2023 17:21

It's not up to the French to control British border, ffs.

If we were still in the EU, we'd be able to send asylum seekers back to France under the Dublin agreement, but we lost that right when we left. "Taking back control" of our borders was just another big, fat Brexit lie.

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Ummm...Yes that worked out well, didn't it. How many did we return 🙄

Same as how well it's working out for Germany now 😂

jgw1 · 02/04/2023 19:13

Pottedpalm · 02/04/2023 19:08

School holidays.. hence the trips to France.. non?

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There are coach drivers doing the school run in the holidays and then sitting in rural laybys in the hundreds waiting for the return run?

The world has gone truly mad.

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 19:14

Rhondaa · 02/04/2023 19:11

No they should staff to reflect demand as every other port and airport does.

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So France should be better prepared than the UK? And spend extra money because of the choices the UK made.

TheSnootiestFox · 02/04/2023 19:14

IClaudine · 02/04/2023 19:06

And now you got your wish and many of those people went back to Eastern Europe and other parts of Europe too. It's great, because all the lovely Brexit supporters who were so upset about those people taking their jobs filled the many vacancies those people left behind. And we are simply awash with spare housing and there is plenty of capacity in the NHS and social care. Exactly what was promised.

Do I have that right?

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That's the second time today I've been accused of voting leave when quite the reverse was true. I am simply stating the facts as I recall them, as a university educated professional that was working for the Government until 2014 and then went into the third sector and dealt with far too much poverty. People were poor, scared and thought their jobs and the few school places and homes they could access were being taken away by Eastern Europeans. That's why the referendum even happened in the first place. Sorry if that fact is inconvenient but the, and I've said this three times now, uncontrolled immigration condoned by Blair and Brown caused this whole shit show in the first place.

Pottedpalm · 02/04/2023 19:14

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 19:12

Were there problems with coaches like this before? Or should they just use a crystal ball.

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They must have bookings for these coaches, probably made many weeks ahead, and they know hiw many people per coach.

Beneficialchampion2 · 02/04/2023 19:16

Not really the fault of the Tory's, they executed an idea owing to the result of a referendum that the majority of those who voted - voted for.

YABU.

Sucks to be your kid

jgw1 · 02/04/2023 19:16

Rhondaa · 02/04/2023 19:09

Systems and protocols can change anywhere and anytime. They don't owe us any favours, they should just do their job effectively and efficiently.

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I imagine the job of the French border agency staff is to protect the borders of France and the essential consumption of cake and alcohol at work. Would you agree @Janiie?

Do you have any evidence that they are not doing that job?

RosesInWater · 02/04/2023 19:17

Well maybe parents and schools need to be more patriotic and isolationist and only promote Great Britain and NI for school trips. Lots to see and do, plenty of history, there is even a ski resort! No passport queues no pesky Border Control, the food is edible and there is no language barrier.

Come on schools and parents, ask what you can do for your country.

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 19:17

Pottedpalm · 02/04/2023 19:14

They must have bookings for these coaches, probably made many weeks ahead, and they know hiw many people per coach.

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I thought SchoolTripDrama meant schools with they so I was wondering how schools could be better prepared for the delays.

itsgettingweird · 02/04/2023 19:17

TheSnootiestFox · 02/04/2023 18:57

I can't find the post to quote, but I am not batshit and remember quite clearly the free movement debacle when the Labour Government completely lost control of immigration from Eastern Europe into the UK. That is what started the rot and the appetite for Brexit and we reap what they sowed today. Anyone that doesn't get that really has no understanding of working/lower middle class daily mail reading Britain.

But it's fine.

Because now we've voted for them to return to their country of origin we have a shortage of public sector health and social care workers and Poland is expected to be a richer country than us by 2024.

But being poorer and short of employees was and is the will of the people.

SchoolTripDrama · 02/04/2023 19:17

@DuncinToffee There's allllllllways backlogs with coaches. Add in Brexit and it's a recipe for disaster

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 19:18

RosesInWater · 02/04/2023 19:17

Well maybe parents and schools need to be more patriotic and isolationist and only promote Great Britain and NI for school trips. Lots to see and do, plenty of history, there is even a ski resort! No passport queues no pesky Border Control, the food is edible and there is no language barrier.

Come on schools and parents, ask what you can do for your country.

Swim in sewage

Another76543 · 02/04/2023 19:18

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 02/04/2023 18:01

Yes, but he was the idiot that decided to hold a referendum in the first place. I absolutely lay the blame at his feet.

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He held a referendum because it was an election pledge. The Conservative Party were elected by a majority on the basis of a manifesto which included the promise of a referendum. In fact, every major political party included the question of EU membership in their manifestos in the preceding years. It wasn’t just the Conservative Party. They just happened to be the party who was elected and had no real choice but to hold the referendum. I’m not sure political leaders actually anticipated the country voting for Brexit, but there we are. That’s what happens in a democracy where everyone is given their say.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49753420.amp

david cameron

David Cameron's referendum claim fact-checked - BBC News

The former prime minister has been asked whether he regrets calling a referendum

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49753420.amp

SchoolTripDrama · 02/04/2023 19:19

@DuncinToffee *Third Party country. Not third world country!

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