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School ski trip cancelled due to chaos in Dover - fuck the tories

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TheColourofspring · 02/04/2023 10:57

My 15 year old son has just spent 17 hours in a coach in dover waiting to go on a much anticipated ski trip. It’s cost us over £1500 over a year and we hoped, given everything our kids lost over covid, it would be a positive experience.

The school just notified us to say that now- due to health and safety, drivers hours etc- the trip needs to be cancelled and the kids are on their way back from dover.

Absolutely FUCK the lying Tory cunts - they ruin everything. They try and blame the French yet all of this lies at their door. Fuck them all for ruining 100 kids trip (and probably thousands more) and ruining everything they touch with their stinking corrupt lies and their lies about brexit.

My son was in tears.

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Untitledsquatboulder · 02/04/2023 16:44

Arapawa · 02/04/2023 16:12

I'm sure the children will be disappointed however this kind of thing (as with Covid) probably is a huge learning curve which they would not have had otherwise. They will realise that things don't always go to plan. They will learn to be resilient (hopefully).

I think any child old enough for a school ski trip is likely to have had plenty of practice on missing out on stuff. Being constantly let down doesn't build resilience, more like cynicism and mistrust.

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 16:46

itsgettingweird · 02/04/2023 16:36

Not really a good example. This was an actual delay in response to a terror attack.

I was working in an airport abroad during 9/11. Very few (literally a handful only and 1 woman was about not having a clean thing for the morning 🙄🤔) people complained about being diverted or grounded.

This is a delay at a time where it's known to be peak travelling season. Nothing has been put in place to prevent such troubles.

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Her other example also had to do with understaffing of French border posts during heightened security checks.

from the article
France haa been under a state of emergency since last November, when terror attacks in Paris left 130 people dead and has tightened its border checks accordingly.

Kendodd · 02/04/2023 16:47

ThunderDad · 02/04/2023 16:17

Half the country are struggling to pay their gas bill. Maybe there are bigger issues than your ski trip.. just saying.

I know!
Everything is shit under the Tories.
Life is worse for the middle class than it was.
And the poor have suffered even more than anyone in Tory Britain.
What's the Tory austerity body count now? Isn't it about 250,000 additional deaths ?

2023Hope · 02/04/2023 16:49

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 02/04/2023 16:29

Exactly, things are really fantastic under the tories aren't they? Our economy is boomi....oh wait.

Anyway, I'm sure things will turn around soon with all that extra investment and trade deals coming into the coun.......oh wait.

Well, to be honest it's been a tough few years but thankfully the tories, as the party of fiscal responsibility, have gotten the national debt mountain under con.....oh wait.

Ok the economy might not be so great but the NHS! The NHS has never been in a better posit......oh wait.

I suppose we could console ourselves with the fact we've got world class public serv......oh.

Right, forget all that at leat we've taken back control of our borders and got immigration under contr........oh.

Well, things will be OK in the future as we've invested so heavily in our children's educa.....fuck.

Em, this isn't going quite as I'd planned. I'm gonna need some of our resident torypuppets to jump in and tell us all exactly what has improved over the last 13 years of tory rule??

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Great post!

Rosula · 02/04/2023 16:49

TheSnootiestFox · 02/04/2023 14:11

No, we'd have just carried on with the shitshow of uncontrolled immigration that caused half the Nation to demand Brexit in the first place 🙄 The Tories may have some serious questions to answer but that little issue is Blair's and Brown's alone.

I've got a son (not the one with the fractured foot as per my post fortunately 🤣 ) on a ski trip right now OP so solidarity, he must be devastated, but our lot flew as we're in the North. The country is absolutely going to Hell in a handcart currently.

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And the electorate was badly deceived, primarily by Tories like Johnson, into thinking Brexit would sort out immigration when manifestly it would not. Those leavers who voted for it for that reason must be sorely disappointed. As we have seen, one of the major downsides of Brexit has been precisely the loss of foreign workers leading to all the problems we currently have with recruitment in the health and service sectors.

The Tories had been in power for six years prior to the referendum, so the issue can hardly be solely Blair's and Brown's, can it?

MzHz · 02/04/2023 16:50

ThunderDad · 02/04/2023 16:17

Half the country are struggling to pay their gas bill. Maybe there are bigger issues than your ski trip.. just saying.

And Prickish Comment of the day goes to…..

SerendipityJane · 02/04/2023 16:50

jgw1 · 02/04/2023 16:31

That's even funnier than some of my posts, well played.

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It wasn't a joke.

I've been here before. In 1992. There was no way the Tories could win after fucking the UK over with 2 recessions in 10 years. But win they did.

The current zeitgeist has that vibe to it.

IClaudine · 02/04/2023 16:52

ThunderDad · 02/04/2023 16:42

The Ukraine isn't our problem. Do you know any Ukrainians? Have you ever been there? There are plenty of people in the UK who would love to have a home. If we deported everyone who is here illegally / pretending to be a refugee then there would be homes for everyone, perhaps even at a price that normal people can afford. But yes you are right that there are even bigger problems in the world than gas bills. Really though you are just bringing up Ukrainians to show everyone that you are a kind and empathetic person.. am I wrong?

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My point was that there is always someone worse off, but that doesn't mean people can't be upset about things.

If we deported everyone who is here illegally / pretending to be a refugee then there would be homes for everyone, perhaps even at a price that normal people can afford

I am glad you posted this xenophobic rubbish. I know not to waste any more of my time replying to you.

Rosula · 02/04/2023 16:52

Luckydip1 · 02/04/2023 14:11

As both Labour and Tories wanted Brexit, you have to blame the people who voted at the referendum, it's because of them that this country is poorer and will continue to struggle economically until the dumb decision is reversed.

I will certainly blame the voters, but I'm not sure where you get the perception that Labour and Tories wanted Brexit when both campaigned against.

I will certainly blame the party that has been responsible for implementing it for making so many spectacularly stupid choices in how they went about it.

ThunderDad · 02/04/2023 16:52

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 02/04/2023 16:29

Exactly, things are really fantastic under the tories aren't they? Our economy is boomi....oh wait.

Anyway, I'm sure things will turn around soon with all that extra investment and trade deals coming into the coun.......oh wait.

Well, to be honest it's been a tough few years but thankfully the tories, as the party of fiscal responsibility, have gotten the national debt mountain under con.....oh wait.

Ok the economy might not be so great but the NHS! The NHS has never been in a better posit......oh wait.

I suppose we could console ourselves with the fact we've got world class public serv......oh.

Right, forget all that at leat we've taken back control of our borders and got immigration under contr........oh.

Well, things will be OK in the future as we've invested so heavily in our children's educa.....fuck.

Em, this isn't going quite as I'd planned. I'm gonna need some of our resident torypuppets to jump in and tell us all exactly what has improved over the last 13 years of tory rule??

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I'm not a fan of the Tories either. They are basically the same as Labour. Tories have somewhat more competent people (and no Dianne Abbot) but in some ways this makes them more dangerous. The idea that Labour somehow are the antidote to the Tories is beyond stupid. Unless we get a completely new government (which would entail, among other things, sacking most of the civil service) we are beyond screwed. Labour can't save you. Corbyn can't save you. Socialism definitely won't save you. In fact socialists are the most evil people in history with a body count of around 150 million in the last century. If there is anyone who can save us it is a leader who understands the evils of socialism, the extent to which it has already rotted our country and someone willing to drive a stake through its putrid heart.

MarshaBradyo · 02/04/2023 16:53

Rosula · 02/04/2023 16:49

And the electorate was badly deceived, primarily by Tories like Johnson, into thinking Brexit would sort out immigration when manifestly it would not. Those leavers who voted for it for that reason must be sorely disappointed. As we have seen, one of the major downsides of Brexit has been precisely the loss of foreign workers leading to all the problems we currently have with recruitment in the health and service sectors.

The Tories had been in power for six years prior to the referendum, so the issue can hardly be solely Blair's and Brown's, can it?

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Those leavers who voted for it for that reason must be sorely disappointed

Given how annoyed everyone is a party could run on joining SM or CU but it seems no one thinks they can win on that.

Plaidparty · 02/04/2023 16:54

stanch remainer here. Need to get that out there… but every time Ive been in France lately all border control queues have been a disaster.

a few months ago - the border agents left their post and we waited an hour for others to turn up - no communication or anything. (That was all passports) luckily our flight was delayed or we would never have made it.

we also waited 90 mins at CDG a few months earlier to get through and the same at Heathrow when we arrived. With a 5 year old.

Messed up all over it seems.

TheSnootiestFox · 02/04/2023 16:54

Rosula · 02/04/2023 16:49

And the electorate was badly deceived, primarily by Tories like Johnson, into thinking Brexit would sort out immigration when manifestly it would not. Those leavers who voted for it for that reason must be sorely disappointed. As we have seen, one of the major downsides of Brexit has been precisely the loss of foreign workers leading to all the problems we currently have with recruitment in the health and service sectors.

The Tories had been in power for six years prior to the referendum, so the issue can hardly be solely Blair's and Brown's, can it?

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The loss of control of immigration was entirely a Labour Party issue, yes. By the time the Tories won the 2010 general election the population had exploded and the damage to the UK psyche had already happened.

Rosula · 02/04/2023 16:55

TheSnootiestFox · 02/04/2023 14:14

Only because just over half the population had given them the mandate to do it. If you recall, Cameron resigned over it, but they still had to do it because that's how the referendum went. You know, democracy and all that.....

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It was a referendum we didn't have to have, and which only happened because Cameron was desperate for votes at the preceding election. And it wasn't a binding vote, either.

LlynTegid · 02/04/2023 16:55

No one should be put in the same position again. Eurostar trains have been reduced in numbers because of border checks, Heathrow restricted flights last summer because of capacity, the same should happen for ports.

I would guess the school booked months ago. If saying no to late bookings on ferries is required, it should be done.

Not that it absolves any one of the 52%, those who did not take part who were eligible in the 2016 referendum, and then the Tories for how the result was implemented, for any blame.

TheSnootiestFox · 02/04/2023 16:56

Rosula · 02/04/2023 16:55

It was a referendum we didn't have to have, and which only happened because Cameron was desperate for votes at the preceding election. And it wasn't a binding vote, either.

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Can you imagine the outcry if it hadn't been acted upon though? There'd have been accusations of refusing the country what it had voted on.

ThunderDad · 02/04/2023 16:57

IClaudine · 02/04/2023 16:52

My point was that there is always someone worse off, but that doesn't mean people can't be upset about things.

If we deported everyone who is here illegally / pretending to be a refugee then there would be homes for everyone, perhaps even at a price that normal people can afford

I am glad you posted this xenophobic rubbish. I know not to waste any more of my time replying to you.

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My point is that while it is reasonable to be upset about things, perhaps linking it to the condition of the entire country is somewhat narcissistic.

Also why is it xenophobic to enforce our laws regarding our borders? I never mentioned deporting anybody who is here legally or who is an actual refugee.

Care to explain your position on this?

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 16:58

ThunderDad · 02/04/2023 16:52

I'm not a fan of the Tories either. They are basically the same as Labour. Tories have somewhat more competent people (and no Dianne Abbot) but in some ways this makes them more dangerous. The idea that Labour somehow are the antidote to the Tories is beyond stupid. Unless we get a completely new government (which would entail, among other things, sacking most of the civil service) we are beyond screwed. Labour can't save you. Corbyn can't save you. Socialism definitely won't save you. In fact socialists are the most evil people in history with a body count of around 150 million in the last century. If there is anyone who can save us it is a leader who understands the evils of socialism, the extent to which it has already rotted our country and someone willing to drive a stake through its putrid heart.

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Is there a specific kind of socialism you are referring to with your history of body count?

LookItsMeAgain · 02/04/2023 16:58

TheColourofspring · 02/04/2023 11:37

@TomatoFrog bollocks. It lies entirely at the tories feet - Brexit it an unmitigated disaster. It was the tories that insisted that every passport had to be stamped.

It is the fault of the electorate who didn't get out in the numbers to STOP this shit show from passing.
It's not the Tories that insist that every passport has to be stamped. This is a CONSEQUENCE of leaving the EU free travel zone. You don't have to get your passport stamped if you're travelling to Ireland and that is ONLY because there is an agreed special arrangement between the UK and Rep. of Ireland.

While I'm sorry your son and his class didn't get to go on their ski trip, if they want to go on another one, they could fly (my daughter is currently on her way back from a trip to the EU and they flew) or go earlier in the school year or pick a different type of trip to go on.

bellswithwhistles · 02/04/2023 16:58

How's it the Tories fault?!

Travel insurance?

Rosula · 02/04/2023 16:59

myoldmansatrendydustman · 02/04/2023 14:23

They should factor in the possibilities of delays before booking or go at a different time.

By the time they have set off it's already too late,

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What different time might that be? School holiday times are always popular, and for obvious reasons it's not practical to have this sort of trip in termtime.

LookItsMeAgain · 02/04/2023 16:59

I hadn't scrolled down to the bottom of the first page to see that there had been several hundred other posts made before I made mine. Apologies. I'll go back now and read all of the other posts that were made before mine and then sit quietly in the corner 😁

ThunderDad · 02/04/2023 17:00

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2023 16:58

Is there a specific kind of socialism you are referring to with your history of body count?

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Start with the USSR, CCP, North Korea, Cambodia and work your way on to the slightly less disastrously implementations of socialism. If you think that the F the tory brigade / Corbynistas would not bring about such a regime in the UK then you don't understand human nature.

Villssev · 02/04/2023 17:00

jgw1 · 02/04/2023 16:35

@Villssev is that for the nonsesne statement that there were long delays at the Port of Dover every year at Easter when the UK was a member of the EU?

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Nope 😂

Rosula · 02/04/2023 17:02

LeggyLinda · 02/04/2023 14:25

As much as I’d love to blame the Tories for everything, this is the fault of brexit voters.
Yes, the conservatives have handled brexit poorly, but there isn’t a plus point or good way of leaving EU.

Remind me which party it was that set up the Brexit vote?

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