Remove someone from hospital?

[hospitalPR]

AIBU to ask police to remove someone who doesn't have PR (of admitted and critically ill DC) from hospital situation?

Depends on whether they're a risk to you or not (or pissed/on drugs).

Let the hospital staff know, they are used to dealing with issues like this.

Nowhere near enough information for anyone to say. But unless their is a risk of violence then the police are highly unlikely to get involved

Hospital staff won't get involved. It's grandmother. Both (separated) parents are available but MGM is causing absolute mayhem between the parents, and refusing to leave.

Can’t you speak to the ward staff and use hospital security instead.

Has this person caused a disturbance or are they doing something wrong?

Legal PR or not I’d expect a parent to want to be at the hospital if their child was critically ill.

She needs to be ejected, then.

Security should assist.

Are there specific grounds to do this where someone doesn't have PR?

Why are hospital staff not interested?

Both parents have PR - obviously grandparent does not.

If she is causing a scene then even with PR the hospital can remove her, if she doesn't have PR but is not disturbing the area by shouting, screaming, being violent then she can be at the hospital unfortunately.
Is one parent asking for her to stay?
Is she interfering with treatment/care options?

They simply don't want to get involved. It's hugely frustrating. Initially staff said they would only speak with those who have PR - GM muscled in on every conversation.

I would instruct the hospital staff to not discuss anything pertaining to your child and let them know you will be complaining via pals if they do so.
Yes I would also call the police.

Ok. This is good to know. No disturbance as yet although there was very nearly a scene earlier. Perhaps it would have been better to let it play out.

What's your skin in this game?

Yes, unfortunately that would have been best, however do make sure you are calm and not raising your voice as you could also be put out.

Actually grandparent could. I have parental responsibility for grandson , as do both biological parents. Not going into circumstances as it's no one's business, but in medical and schooling matters among others I have authority to decide and authorise. If medical staff won't act then they may have more info than you, or they may not be seeing them being there as a problem.

@Lizzt2007 - I totally understand GPs can achieve PR. In this case, GM does not have PR.

Are You the Dad op? Is this your ex MIL?

This is the situation - however I am neither of the parties you mention.

I think the op would know if dgm had PR!!
Why isn't dgm's dc getting rid of her?

I would imagine that if one of the parents wants her to be present, then unless she's actually causing a disturbance, you'll have a job getting rid of her.

I thought that might be the case, are they young parents? Does the mum want her mum there?

DGMs DC seems to be impotent under the circumstances (clearly also overwhelmed with critically ill DC). It has become clearly evident that the toxicity of the behaviour of DGM is not just against the other parent...

Thank you. DGM now threatening other parent with NMO ex-parte. One would think that when there's a critically ill child, this sort of behaviour might flipping stop.